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Could Same-Sex Marriage Cost Obama Black Support and 2012 Election?

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96 percent of black voters chose Barack Obama in 2008. Some black Christian leaders want to change that in 2012. They believe that Obama's pro-gay policies -- mainly his support of gay marriage -- will cost Obama some support from the black, Christian community.

Bishop E. W. Jackson Sr., president of the group Staying True to America’s National Destiny (STAND) started the "Exodus Now" effort to encourage blacks to leave the Democratic party. "It is time for black Christians to have the faith and courage to refuse to associate with the Democratic Party that has become anti-Christian, anti-Israel, anti-Church, anti-Bible, anti-life, anti-family and anti-God,” said Bishop Jackson.

Bishop Jackson added, "...The Democratic Party has shown itself to be so inimical to the biblical values of Christians and Jews that it is time for a mass exodus. The Democratic Party has turned its back on us, it’s time to turn our back on them."

The National Urban League published a report called, “The Hidden Swing Voters: Impact of African-Americans in 2012.” The report suggests that Obama will lose re-election if only 60% of blacks turnout in 2012 -- the same amount that turned out in the 2004 presidential election, which George W. Bush won.



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  • Jean 2012/09/21 14:39:46
    Yes
    Jean
    +15
    The reason that the gay-marriage initiative in CA went down in flames in 2008 wasn't because of the Mormon vote - it was because of the black voter turnout. Obama has opened the door to his defeat - and also his potential "outing": http://tinyurl.com/obamasgaylife

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  • Frank 2012/09/24 21:16:18
    Yes
    Frank
    +2
    Contrary to some peoples views, most black people are very religious and have strong family values. Obama assumes he will get the black votes automatically, so he chose to go after the gay vote, he might be in for a big surprise, and hopefully so....
  • Edie 2012/09/24 21:13:35
    Yes
    Edie
    +2
    Obama lied to the country about where he stood on the gays. How anyone can believe that he tells the truth about anything unless it is beneficial to him is unbelieveable.
  • Sylmkael 2012/09/24 19:54:38
    No
    Sylmkael
    +1
    Who are we to judge who a person should be with?
  • kells Sylmkael 2012/09/28 18:45:19
    kells
    That's what I'm saying
  • Sylmkael kells 2012/09/30 19:43:01
    Sylmkael
    that's good
  • kells Sylmkael 2012/10/01 11:55:33
    kells
    I'm not gay but I do believe in individual freedoms that do not harm others. We are not free untill we can live freely. A persons religeon should not be apart of politics because that is a personal preference, we need laws like the red light and a means to support red lights why because someone could get killed, same sex marriage doesn't present any type risk. I'm a Christian and what person does in their prsonal life is none of my business and to be honest religeon has killed a lot of folks.
  • J 2012/09/24 19:51:45
    Yes
    J
    +3
    But VERY little. Most of the blacks would still vote for Obama if he gave his oldest daughter to the MB for a sacrafice. They don't care about his vision for (against actually) America, or how he has handled the economy, or how his lies began with "no lobbyist in my administration" to "it was because of a movie trailer." Nothing will change their minds. But it isn't just blacks that won't hear or see, but lots of whites who don't have the brains. We have become ignorant and unwilling to use our minds for anything other than greed and entertainment.
  • kells J 2012/10/01 11:37:39 (edited)
    kells
    The only liars are the republicans you guys just got busted in Florida for voter fraud and whats funny your part argued for fairness typical republicans unlike your stories this is not a fabrication.

    Handling of the economy you guys lost a 5 trillion dollar surplus from Clinton then turned around spent billions looking for weapons that weren't there, oh yea we did loose some of our kids for that nonsense, then lost over 400 billion dollars to the banks beause your party didn't apply any rules or standards for repayment, lets not talk about deregulation. Yea this is a no brainer.
  • J kells 2012/10/01 20:44:03
    J
    Foolish! The housing market collapsed because: 1) banks were forced to loan money to people they KNEW wouldn't be able to repay the loans, and 2) the housing slump.

    The signature achievement of the Clinton years (the surplus) turns out to have been a deep negative. This drag on GDP was being counterbalanced by low household savings, high household debt, and the real revving up of the Fannie and Freddie debt boom that had a major hand in fueling the boom that ultimately led to the downfall of the economy. Despite the budget surplus, interest rates were higher. And the surplus provided no protection of the coming slump. And if anything, it just weakened the most brittle part of the economy: households.


    "Bill Clinton, as well as economists Brad DeLong and Tyler Cowen have all argued that the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act softened the impact of the crisis.[29][30] Atlantic Monthly columnist Megan McArdle has argued that if the act was "part of the problem, it would be the commercial banks, not the investment banks, that were in trouble" and repeal would not have helped the situation.[31] An article in the conservative publication, National Review, has made the same argument, calling liberal allegations about the Act “folk economics.”[32] A New York Times financial columnist and crit...

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    Foolish! The housing market collapsed because: 1) banks were forced to loan money to people they KNEW wouldn't be able to repay the loans, and 2) the housing slump.

    The signature achievement of the Clinton years (the surplus) turns out to have been a deep negative. This drag on GDP was being counterbalanced by low household savings, high household debt, and the real revving up of the Fannie and Freddie debt boom that had a major hand in fueling the boom that ultimately led to the downfall of the economy. Despite the budget surplus, interest rates were higher. And the surplus provided no protection of the coming slump. And if anything, it just weakened the most brittle part of the economy: households.


    "Bill Clinton, as well as economists Brad DeLong and Tyler Cowen have all argued that the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act softened the impact of the crisis.[29][30] Atlantic Monthly columnist Megan McArdle has argued that if the act was "part of the problem, it would be the commercial banks, not the investment banks, that were in trouble" and repeal would not have helped the situation.[31] An article in the conservative publication, National Review, has made the same argument, calling liberal allegations about the Act “folk economics.”[32] A New York Times financial columnist and critic of GLB concedes that GLB had little to do with the failed institutions."

    Check out the Feb 1998 US News & World Reports. Even Clinton knew that Saddam had WMDs. Even HE knew they were a threat, but he was unwilling, himself, to do anything. And over the course of the next 4 years, they, Iraq, were able to hid many and transfer most to neighboring countries. Some were found in the desert. Stockpiles were found buried in cave and even one fighter jet was found buried in the sand in the middle of the desert. Don't be afraid to see the truth, and don't be too lazy and ignorant not to do some research.

    Now, tell me more about this Florida voter fraud?
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  • ☆WILLIAM☆ 2012/09/24 18:55:41
    Yes
    ☆WILLIAM☆
    +5
    They would back him up even if he was guilty of murder.
  • rightside ☆WILLIAM☆ 2012/09/24 19:56:21
    rightside
    +2
    Hey William, glad to see you!
  • ☆WILLIAM☆ rightside 2012/09/24 19:58:41
    ☆WILLIAM☆
    +2
    good to see you too.
  • dan 2012/09/24 18:52:57
    No
    dan
    +1
    96 per cent will vote for Obama or is this a trick question to be be a good democrat you should be able to marry a duck dog cat whatever you want even your sister.
  • jsbustaman 2012/09/24 18:39:59
    No
    jsbustaman
    +1
    Are black people supposed to be as prejudiced and intolerant as WHITE TRASH and other BIGOTS?!
  • J jsbustaman 2012/09/24 19:53:53
    J
    +3
    ABSOLUTELY!
  • janet jsbustaman 2012/09/25 07:41:35
    janet
    Well said LOL
  • graham.noble.1232 2012/09/24 17:54:41
    No
    graham.noble.1232
    it's true that his policies stand at odds with anti-gay and traditional christianity but this question makes the assumption that a significant portion of black americans have strong ties to one or both groups enough to effect thier vote i don't think it will have a significant inpact more likely if he loses it be because of failure to live up to his original campain promises.
  • Trust Noone 2012/09/24 17:26:12
    Yes
    Trust Noone
    +4
    Clicked No but got yes.. No, most blacks will vote for him even if they knew he is out to destroy the country because of Black pride.
  • Juan Belaunde 2012/09/24 17:10:12
    Yes
    Juan Belaunde
    +4
    GO AWAY OBAMA!
  • lynn 2012/09/24 17:08:08 (edited)
    Yes
    lynn
    +1
    Since marriage (as defined by every culture throughout known history) is based upon biology (the union between a man and woman in order to procreate) and not romance, the very idea of "same sex marriage" is a contradiction in terms, much like "obese anorexic" would be. Two members of the same sex cannot "marry" because they cannot produce children. They can most certainly enter into a legally recognised relationship which would provide the same benefits as marriage does to heterosexual couples, but call it what it is, a same sex union, not a marriage. This would likely resolve all the controversy, and perhaps we could get back to focusing on things that really matter, like saving the working class and the economy.
  • Contarded Guru Chickenhawk 2012/09/24 17:03:00
  • Greg 2012/09/24 16:53:26
    Yes
    Greg
    And yes, Obama can do that to himself...
  • TombstoneJim 2012/09/24 16:44:41
    Yes
    TombstoneJim
    +1
    At least erode it downward from the 95% mark of last election. That is a ridiculously high percentage of any demographic group for a political candidate to acquire. Unless of course you're voting for him simply because he is black - which is a dumb reason to vote for or against anyone.
  • Kim(: 2012/09/24 16:25:31
    Yes
    Kim(:
    Maybe For gay marriage the people that disprove of it those people will most likely not vote for him but People that approve will most likely vote for him but still if i could vote id vote for the other guy cause obama is the worst president to me
  • Friday - Just the Facts 2012/09/24 16:04:42
    No
    Friday - Just the Facts
    +2
    All this is an attempt to Drive a wedge
    But alas, it won't work anymore.
  • Contard... Friday ... 2012/09/24 17:05:40
  • tokie164 2012/09/24 15:59:50
    No
    tokie164
    +2
    it shouldent, i will vote for him
  • 2012/09/24 15:37:33
    Yes
    We can only hope.
  • Tuna 2012/09/24 15:29:56
    No
    Tuna
    +2
    More "divide and conquer"; can't you see this is rigged?? Here's some more straw, you get back to making bricks and let them control the USA.
    oligarchy
  • Leslie Goudy 2012/09/24 15:29:50
    No
    Leslie Goudy
    This is a non issue the Republicans are blowing up
  • JacquelChrissyC.May 2012/09/24 15:28:42
    Yes
    JacquelChrissyC.May
    He knows not of the damage that he is causing with this stance! He needs to change his ways now!
  • shiroid... Jacquel... 2012/10/02 15:14:13
    shiroidenkou1994
    He needs to support hatred and bigotry rather than equality?

    Why the hell would he need to do that?
  • Dhawgg 2012/09/24 15:21:46
    No
    Dhawgg
    +2
    his utter destruction of our economy and hopes of recovery, along with his general disdain for the Constitution will likely be what costs him the election.
  • Franklin 2012/09/24 14:58:41
    No
    Franklin
    +1
    it can't because it is an issue and Obama has never been about issues + black voters as a group don't care about issues and vote out of class envy and hatred they will go for whatever the DNC tells them is "important" to them today.
  • Lanikai Franklin 2012/09/24 15:41:02
    Lanikai
    +1
    exactly
  • Franklin Lanikai 2012/09/24 15:59:54
    Franklin
    +1
    ...if this race becomes about issues then Obama will have to face his record and he can't fight that!
  • Lanikai Franklin 2012/09/24 16:38:53
    Lanikai
    I cannot believe he is even still in it considering how bad the middle east is right now, and we have DEAD Americans and still the sheeple are supporting the president that actually caused the mideast blow up.

    I think they must be stupid, or dependent upon the fed.
  • JoeM~PWCM~JLA 2012/09/24 14:52:33
    Yes
    JoeM~PWCM~JLA
    Without question. The STAND group is just the most vocal. The real question is "how many Blacks will drop their support due to Obama's position on same sex marriage?"
  • SW 2012/09/24 14:50:45
    No
    SW
    +1
    I don't think that one issue in particular is gonna make the African American community pick Romney suddenly. Not that there is some kind of "black voter" like they're all connected somehow. They're all different just like everybody else. It will be nice when we no longer talk about "black" or "white" or "hispanic" voters the way we do now.
  • voice_matters 2012/09/24 14:40:10
    No
    voice_matters
    why is it libby you can not show that obama has lost any support in the black community

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