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  • possiblymaybe 2011/02/15 08:15:39 (edited)
    possiblymaybe
    Interesting interpretation.

    I did notice something unique about this presentation. Did you see in the 4th video how the Pope urged Turkey not to join the European Union?

    The Church of Philadelphia (Revelations 3:7) named after Attalus Philadelphus, still exists in the town now called Allah Shehr, 'the city of God.' in Turkey. Read Revelation 3 and compare it to the other letters to the other Churches.

    Some information on this area:

    city god turkey read revelation 3 compare letters churches information

    The Church of Philadelphia area is situated on the slopes of three or four hills, the roots of mount Tmolus, by the river Cogamus, twenty seven miles E.S.E. from Sardis in Turkey. The number of houses is said to be about 3,000, of which 250 are Greek, the rest Turkish; and the Christians have twenty-five places of worship, five of them large and regular churches, a resident bishop, and twenty inferior clergy. It's the The second city in Lydia. The population includes Jews, Jewish Christians and converts. It is called City of God. One of the Mosques is believed by the natives to have been the gathering-place of the church addressed in Revelation. The city is known as the most liberal in Turkey. Turkey is a democratic, secular, unitary, constitutional republic. The predominant religion by number of people is Islam (Sunni). Its language is Turkish. The Kurds there speak Kurdish. It's very VERY diverse. People cannot convert the government as it has a strict secular format and forbids even Shar'ia law.

    myob

    Yes the little boy (above) is carrying a cross.

    So it's an interesting read considering the Allah Shehr is a small Messianic (Christian) Jewish community tucked in the middle of a secular Islamist state.
  • Brian 2011/02/14 23:43:03
    Brian
    Yes they do!
  • dill fazie 2011/02/13 05:45:35
    dill fazie
    +1
    thanks for sharing this...
  • Brian dill fazie 2011/02/13 12:14:13
    Brian
    +1
    Your welcome and there is a whole lot of truth being said, once we take off the wordly blinders
    and see the truth in it and it will set all free, for the most part it is all backed up by the Holy Bible.
    Blessings!
  • Old Soldier 2011/02/13 04:16:54
    Old Soldier
    +2
    No, All Roads lead to Calvery.
  • dill fazie Old Sol... 2011/02/13 04:49:57
    dill fazie
    +1
    you are correct sir... :)
  • Old Sol... dill fazie 2011/02/13 06:08:00
    Old Soldier
    +1
    In a medical tent, recovering from wounds, waiting to be sent to Saigon, for internment back to the States, I listened to the wounded talk. "I'll tell you who makes all the wars," one man said. "It's you and me, my dears: we make the wars. We love them. That's why we open our mouths and swallow all the twaddle that the fine, black-coated gentlemen when they tell us it's our sacred duty to kill our enemies. We are all crazy to kill something: it doesn't matter what.

    “And our enemies? They were just as eager to kill us for the same reason. Who makes a dog fight? Why, the dog. Anybody can do it. Who could make us fight each other, if we didn't want to? Not all the king's horses and all the King's men. No, my dears, it's we make the wars. You and me. And all this talk of God, there is no God!"

    So I gave him an answer. “No, we don’t make the wars, our governments do, those fine, black-coated gentlemen you are referring too. As to God, people think of God as of a great King, as a Ruler who orders all things: who could change all things in the twinkling of an eye. They see the cruelty and the wrong around them, mostly made by themselves, and say to themselves; “He has ordered it. If He would, He could have willed it differently.” So to this point, in their hearts, they are angry with Him. How could it be otherwise? What father, loving his children, would see them suffer wrong, when by stretching out a hand he could protect them: turn their tears to gladness? What father would see his children doing evil to one another and not stop them: would see them following ways leading to their destruction, and not hold them back? If God has ordered all things, why has He created evil, making His creatures weak and sinful? Does a father lay snares for his children: leading them into temptation: delivering them unto evil? You forget that you have free will to do as you please, that’s something the angels don’t have.”

    “And you are right, men then say; “There is no God, just as you have.”

    “But God is a spirit. His dwelling-place is in man's heart. We are to be His laborers for Good. It is through Jesus Christ, His Son, that He, and we, shall one day rule the world.”

    “God is knocking at your heart, but you will not open to Him. Men have filled their hearts with love of self, thus, there is no room for God to enter in.”

    God whispers to you: ‘Be pitiful. Be merciful. Be just.” But you answer Him: “If I am pitiful, I lose my time and money. If I am merciful, I forego advantage to myself. If I am just, I lessen my own profit, and another passes me in the race.”

    "And yet in your intermost thoughts you know that you are wrong: it is the love of self that brings you no peace. Who is happier than those that love others, thinking only how to serve? Who is the more joyous: he who sits alone at the table, or he who shares his meal with a friend? It is more blessed to give than to receive. How can you doubt it? For what do you toil and strive for but that you may give to your children, to your loved ones, reaping the harvest of their good over your own?”

    “Who among us here is the more honored? The miser or the giver: he who heaps up riches for himself or he who labours to help others?”

    “And here on the battle field brother, who is the true soldier? He who has put away self. His own ease and comfort, even his own needs, his own safety: they are but as a feather in the balance when weighed against his love for his people, for his country. The true soldier is not afraid to love. He gives his life for his friend. Do you jeer at him? Do you say he is a fool for his pains? No, you do not. Why? Because it is his honour, his glory.”

    “God is love. Why are you afraid to let Him in? Hate knocks also at your door and to him you open wide. Why are you afraid of love? All things are created by love. Hate can only destroy. Why do you choose death instead of life? God pleads to you. He is waiting for your answer.”

    But another answered me; one of the wounded looked at me and smiling, said; "We are but poor men," he said. "What can we do? Of what use are such as we?"

    “You can ask that,” I stated, “you, a soldier? Should the soldier say: “I am of no use? I am but a poor man of no account. Who has need of such as I?” Soldier, God has need of all. It is the selflessness of the soldier that shall help to win the victory. It is with his life the soldier serves. Who were the apostles whose teaching moved the world more than it has ever yet been moved by the teaching of the so-called wisest? They were men of little knowledge, of very little learning, poor in spirit and lowly, but it was with their lives they taught.”

    “Cast out self, and God shall enter in, and you shall be one with God. For there is none so lowly that he may not become the Temple of God: there is none so great that they can be greater than that!”

    And no man, other than that one, answered me.
  • dill fazie Old Sol... 2011/02/14 17:42:23
    dill fazie
    +1
    thank you for your time and response... I believe i see your message, and it works for us all... your closing lines, "Cast out self" that is spirit filled, bless you... for 26yrs now i've been attempting to express similar hope to those i've encountered... May we continue to plant the seeds of Jesus Christ and our Creators' message to them... Blessing my brother...
  • Old Sol... dill fazie 2011/02/15 18:46:41
    Old Soldier
    +2
    Blessings to you as well.......
  • Brian Old Sol... 2011/02/13 12:07:41
    Brian
    +2
    There are many ways to Hell and satan is the master deceiver and he has got into the mother church big time as well as all religions.
    There is only one way to Heaven and tthat is though Jesus Christ.
    There is only two kingdoms darkness or Light, with only two masters. It is up to us to serve
    one or the other and we cant serve two at the same time, i tryed that until i hit a wall in my
    life and i will never go back to living for the world again. Thats right it is all about Jesus and
    the Truth will set you free!
    Blessings!
  • Old Sol... Brian 2011/02/15 18:50:31
    Old Soldier
    +1
    Jesus stated "broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:" (Matthew 7:13)

    A sad situation at best.
  • Brian Old Sol... 2011/02/15 23:13:05
    Brian
    +1
    Amen!
  • Arizona1950 2011/02/13 01:48:00
    Arizona1950
    +1
    I believe it is a belief system perpetrated through the generations by the 7th Day Adventists ... time will tell.
  • dill fazie Arizona... 2011/02/13 04:49:31
    dill fazie
    +1
    didn't the advent's come to group in the late 1800's? i've only watched first two and it's lacking in advents' targeted speech...
  • Arizona... dill fazie 2011/02/13 05:07:11 (edited)
    Arizona1950
    +1
    Not sure. They very much thought Christ was returning and when it didn't happen they started following a woman prophet by the name Ellen White ... I attended their services and joined in their discussion a few years back for almost a year. They were very anti-Roman Catholic Church. The small little congregation I attended was getting away from the teachings of White and getting back to the Bible especially Revelations and their interpretations are very much like what is written above.
  • dill fazie Arizona... 2011/02/13 05:19:03
    dill fazie
    +1
    we've been to similar anti-roman events i see... i'm working on four...
  • Arizona... dill fazie 2011/02/13 16:18:27
    Arizona1950
    +1
    It was interesting ... but they got real mad when I got up and walked out during one of their messages.
  • dill fazie Arizona... 2011/02/14 17:44:35
    dill fazie
    +2
    I didn't walk out of their services but have walked out of 2 other churches services... and yes they get a little disagreeable... such is live, if your message isn't worthy of our Creator then yes we must leave... your a Blessing, thank you...
  • Arizona... dill fazie 2011/02/14 18:51:41
    Arizona1950
    +2
    Thank you. That was very kind ... I enjoyed our talk also. :-)
  • cynicalhumbug 2011/02/12 14:38:11
    cynicalhumbug
    +2
    Lots of interesting info to process, thanks for sharing.