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Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/08/01 23:35:53
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What can Congress have been thinking? They just handed over to this (putative) President the sole authority to appoint some fifty (at least) high-level administrators, ranking just below their respective Secretaries of This-or-That (or in one case, the Attorney General). The Czars were bad enough. With this many high-level appointees, a President could do much, good or bad.

Why did ninety-five Republicans vote for this travesty? (And kudos to the one Democrat, Collin Peterson of the Seventh District of Minnesota, who voted against it.)

And why did only one organ, the Daily Caller, even talk about it?

The House passed this in the dead of night last night, on a motion to suspend the rules and pass it in one shot. Sweet. No semblance of a debate.

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  • ☆stillthe12c☆ 2012/08/07 23:32:22
    Bad move!
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +2
    They gave up authority that they should keep to keep bad actor out of government. They need to spend the time and do it correctly.
  • Steve Boston 2012/08/04 17:04:26
    Bad move!
    Steve Boston
    +1
    Until our nation wakes up and creates a dedicated plan to "fire them all" we'll forever remain the helpless serfs they take us for. Period. We have the power but no plan.
  • Always Right 2012/08/03 21:08:45
    Bad move!
    Always Right
    +2
    This congress has been useless since it convened on January 3, 2011! Too many career politicians, liberals and RINOs!
  • jimrthy BN-0 2012/08/03 14:25:08
    Bad move!
    jimrthy BN-0
    +4
    Spineless idiots.
  • mk, Smartass Oracle 2012/08/03 01:40:55
    Bad move!
    mk, Smartass Oracle
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/08/02 18:21:09
    Bad move!
    jackolantyrn356
    +2
    Comngressm Ih, Congress, Just what the phuque have you been doing? You act like you need to be turned out in the streets While Obama makes all the decisions about America. A pure Dictattor who no longer needs a Congress Hence you are fired
  • Mike 2012/08/02 15:41:34
    Undecided
    Mike
    +1
    Now law for government house and Senate one and done 401K and medicare at retirement
  • Matt 2012/08/02 15:36:53
    Bad move!
    Matt
    +8
    No matter who we vote for, it's always the same.

    under new mismanagement
  • Southern Man 2012/08/02 14:43:30
    Bad move!
    Southern Man
    +8
    This is just not good ... We need to get rid of this congress hell we need to get rid of all of them and just start over ... This country is screwed it will take years and years to fix it if it even can be ...
  • Semper Fi 2012/08/02 14:18:58
    Bad move!
    Semper Fi
    +7
    No good self-serving bastards.
  • Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody 2012/08/02 13:43:44
    Bad move!
    Dwight-AFCL>dogsbody
    +7
    It is the power of the citizens that is invested in Congress, and they have just thrown it away.
  • Seonag 2012/08/02 12:16:40
    Bad move!
    Seonag
    +5
    STUPID!
  • Racefish 2012/08/02 11:30:59
    What's everybody getting so excited about?
    Racefish
    +3
    Article II, Section 2

    "He shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by law: but the Congress may by law vest the appointment of such inferior officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the courts of law, or in the heads of departments."

    Does anyone read this document any more or just go off half cocked?
  • Temlako... Racefish 2012/08/02 14:46:20
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +3
    The problem is: they shouldn't have done it in this case. No one has made a good or sufficient case to me as to why Congress ought to have thought it proper to vest the appointment of these not-quite-so-inferior-as-that officers in the President alone.
  • Racefish Temlako... 2012/08/02 15:13:02
    Racefish
    +2
    It makes no difference. Even if it wasn't Constitutional, the Democrat controlled Senate would have done it anyway without a single Republican vote.
  • Liberty... Racefish 2012/08/02 14:58:14
    LibertyCaroline
    +2
    This lets judges appoint their own clerks, bailiffs, and other officers, and lets Cabinet-level secretaries appoint their low-level staff. But Congress and the President have always understood that the President must go to the Senate to appoint any officer above a certain “Government Service” level, and especially any officer having roughly the same rank as an ambassador. (The Senate must also confirm a new general or admiral.)
    I don't disregard them as trivial low-level appointments. Those in secondary tiers are often the next to fill the top positions. As such, their backgrounds and intentions deserve no less attention than those who fill the top posts
  • Racefish Liberty... 2012/08/02 15:14:42
    Racefish
    +1
    I think many of these positions are civil service. I can't say for sure. I wouldn't think that a clerk or bailiff need be cleared by the Senate.
  • Liberty... Racefish 2012/08/02 15:32:05
    LibertyCaroline
    +2
    Undoubtedly, there is a need to expedite the presidential appointee process. However, ceding more power to an administration that is overzealous to impose policy by administrative fiat, is not the way to go. Congress has slowly abjured its power to the executive branch by writing open-ended legislation, granting federal agencies wide latitude to promulgate destruction over our economy. Obama has already used radical executive appointees for the purpose of consolidating power in the executive branch. Why would any Republican sign on to such a dangerous expansion of executive power? Whom do they think Obama will appoint to these positions if there is no oversight?

    Here’s a novel idea for streamlining the confirmation process of presidential appointees: shrink the size of government so there will be no need for most of these jobs. It’s high time for Congress to halt its self-immolation, and reign in the executive department behemoth.
  • Racefish Liberty... 2012/08/02 20:07:30
    Racefish
    +3
    Overzealous is an understatement. But then Congress has a record of throwing its power away. Look what they did with the Federal Reserve Act.
  • Temlako... Racefish 2012/08/03 14:25:43
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +3
    Actually, if you read the bill itself, it's talking about some top-level administrators in various Cabinet departments. We're not talking Secretaries, but we are talking Assistant Secretaries, the Chief Scientist at NOAA, people like that.
  • ed 2012/08/02 08:49:40
    Bad move!
    ed
    +6
    95 republicans gone
  • LibertyCaroline 2012/08/02 08:07:49
    Bad move!
    LibertyCaroline
    +5
    Congress has given too much power to the president! “Bipartisan” doesn’t make S.679 right, just a two-partied wrong. Throwing a “bipartisan” label on faulty, unconstitutional and dangerous legislation doesn’t mean your course of action is right. It only means you’ve got idiots on both sides of the aisle! 95 Republicans voted for the bill, and 166 Democrats voted for it.
  • DDogbreath 2012/08/02 07:05:52 (edited)
    Bad move!
    DDogbreath
    +9
    It may look like "executive branch Swiss cheese" but this smells more like executive branch "Limburger Cheese" to me.

    All Congress and Senate that voted for the "Patriot Act" or the NDAA regardless of party affiliation should be "kicked to the curb".

    They violated the oath of office they swore on a bible to protect.

    I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.

    Every last one of the SOB's to the curb

    Add the idiots on this move if they were not on the list.
  • Pedro Doller ~POTL-PWCM~JLA 2012/08/02 06:56:35
    Bad move!
    Pedro Doller ~POTL-PWCM~JLA
    +5
    Since this Martial Law controlled Ceremonial Congress does as it's told, why not have Citizen Volunteers sit there for a week or two, get to use the gym and eat at the cafeteria, get some free medical care play some golf and just send those elected congressmen home.
  • Red 2012/08/02 05:24:38
  • JT For ... Red 2012/08/02 11:43:29
    JT For Political Reform
    +3
    All we can do other than a full revolution is vote out all incumbents. It may come down to the revolution.
  • Red JT For ... 2012/08/02 18:02:20
  • JT For ... Red 2012/08/02 20:09:54
    JT For Political Reform
    +1
    I hear that. I sure hope we can avoid going that far but like you say, it's looking more like it every day.
  • Red JT For ... 2012/08/02 20:11:34
  • JT For ... Red 2012/08/02 20:13:34
    JT For Political Reform
    +1
    Hell, I went to war in Vietnam to fight communism (or so I was told) never in my 64 years on this planet did I suspect that they would have as much control in our own government as they do now.
  • Red JT For ... 2012/08/02 20:22:52
  • JT For ... Red 2012/08/02 23:12:43
    JT For Political Reform
    +1
    We have been sold out by all politicians.
  • Red JT For ... 2012/08/03 07:17:48
  • JT For ... Red 2012/08/03 11:36:36
    JT For Political Reform
    +1
    I would like to say thanks for your service. I know how it is to be a veteran. When I got home they were spitting in our faces and calling us baby killers.
    It pisses me off also. This country should be about all of us being treated equally and fairly, we should never have to be put into a situation where we may actually have to fight our own fellow Americans.
    This so called politically correct society we live in is a joke that is becoming a nightmare.
  • Red JT For ... 2012/08/03 13:47:32
  • JT For ... Red 2012/08/03 13:49:39
    JT For Political Reform
    If the left has anything to do with it, the Lord will be taboo in the United States. I think they prefer a little prayer rug that you kneel on 5 times a day.

    I'm with ya!
  • Red JT For ... 2012/08/03 13:57:10
  • JT For ... Red 2012/08/03 15:20:12
    JT For Political Reform
    Good point about the Cubans. I hadn't thought about that.
  • dandieselonian 2012/08/02 04:47:58
    Undecided
    dandieselonian
    +2
    Thats what you get when the party of NO locks it all up , that was a gutsy move by Mr Obama .
  • Liberty... dandies... 2012/08/02 08:10:49
    LibertyCaroline
    +2
    Are you kidding, this was completely Bipartisan. This bill only means you’ve got idiots on both sides of the aisle!

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