Confuse a liberal use facts and logic!
☆The Rock☆ * AFCL* The Sheriff!!
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Want to confuse a liberal? There are lots of ways to do it!
I received this from someone on another board, and I thought it may be a good starting point to nail some of the Lib's worthless talking points.
Want to confuse a liberal? There are lots of ways to do it!
· Ask them why they oppose the death penalty but are okay with killing babies.
· Ask them why a Democrat who wins the popular vote but loses the electoral vote should be President, but a Republican who wins the popular vote but loses the electoral vote should admit defeat.
· Ask them why private businesses moving overseas is any business of the Government, but illegal foreigners enjoying the benefits of U.S. taxpayer-funded programs is no big deal.
· Ask them why hunters don't care about the environment, but ELF and EarthFirst! do.
· Ask them why standardized tests in schools are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides aren't.
· Ask them why homo****** parades displaying drag, tran******s and bestiality should be protected under the First Amendment, but manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.
· Ask them why drug addiction is a disease best treated with compassion and understanding, but not when the addict is a Conservative talk-show host.
· Ask them why calls for increased security after a terrorist attack is "political grandstanding", but calls for more gun control after a school shooting are "a logical solution"
· Ask them how disarming law-abiding citizens protects them from evil, lawless terrorists, murderers, rapists and other thugs.
· Ask them why sex education should be taught in public school so that students may make informed choices about sex, but gun education should be banned because it will turn those same students into homicidal, gun-crazed maniacs.
· Ask them why minorities are blameless for the hatred of the racist, rape victims are blameless for the hatred of the rapist, but America is solely to blame for the hatred of Al-Qaeda.
· Ask them why socialized medicine is the ideal, despite all the people spending every dime they have to come to the U.S. to get treatments that their socialized medical community can't provide.
· Ask them why criticizing a left-wing actor or musician for the things they say or do, and refusing to attend their concerts, buy their albums, or see their movies, amounts to censorship, but boycotting Rush Limbaugh's or Laura Ingraham's advertisers is free speech.
· Ask them why proven draft-dodging is irrelevant, but baseless claims of AWOL are important to national security.
· Ask them why young men enlisting for the military are little kids who don't know what they are getting themselves into, but 13-year-old girls wanting abortions without their parents finding out are capable of making their own decisions.
Want to confuse a liberal? There are lots of ways to do it!
· Ask them why they oppose the death penalty but are okay with killing babies.
· Ask them why a Democrat who wins the popular vote but loses the electoral vote should be President, but a Republican who wins the popular vote but loses the electoral vote should admit defeat.
· Ask them why private businesses moving overseas is any business of the Government, but illegal foreigners enjoying the benefits of U.S. taxpayer-funded programs is no big deal.
· Ask them why hunters don't care about the environment, but ELF and EarthFirst! do.
· Ask them why standardized tests in schools are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides aren't.
· Ask them why homo****** parades displaying drag, tran******s and bestiality should be protected under the First Amendment, but manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.
· Ask them why drug addiction is a disease best treated with compassion and understanding, but not when the addict is a Conservative talk-show host.
· Ask them why calls for increased security after a terrorist attack is "political grandstanding", but calls for more gun control after a school shooting are "a logical solution"
· Ask them how disarming law-abiding citizens protects them from evil, lawless terrorists, murderers, rapists and other thugs.
· Ask them why sex education should be taught in public school so that students may make informed choices about sex, but gun education should be banned because it will turn those same students into homicidal, gun-crazed maniacs.
· Ask them why minorities are blameless for the hatred of the racist, rape victims are blameless for the hatred of the rapist, but America is solely to blame for the hatred of Al-Qaeda.
· Ask them why socialized medicine is the ideal, despite all the people spending every dime they have to come to the U.S. to get treatments that their socialized medical community can't provide.
· Ask them why criticizing a left-wing actor or musician for the things they say or do, and refusing to attend their concerts, buy their albums, or see their movies, amounts to censorship, but boycotting Rush Limbaugh's or Laura Ingraham's advertisers is free speech.
· Ask them why proven draft-dodging is irrelevant, but baseless claims of AWOL are important to national security.
· Ask them why young men enlisting for the military are little kids who don't know what they are getting themselves into, but 13-year-old girls wanting abortions without their parents finding out are capable of making their own decisions.
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texasred 2011/06/29 22:13:23
They have stood by Obama knowing full well that he is destroying this country, but they don't want to admit it. It is still Bush's fault.
Oh look, here it is on Youtube also:
It just blows my mind how D.C. always ignores when someone comes with great warnings. It always ends with even greater consequences.
Question for you: Who was president in 2008?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 (Division A of Pub.L. 110-343, 122 Stat. 3765, enacted October 3, 2008, commonly referred to as a bailout of the U.S. financial system, is a law enacted in response to the subprime mortgage crisis authorizing the United States Secretary of the Treasury to spend up to US$700 billion to purchase distressed assets, especially mortgage-backed securities, and make capital injections into banks.[1][2] Both foreign and domestic banks are included in the program. The Federal Reserve also extended help to American Express, whose bank-holding application it recently approved.[3] The Act was proposed by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson during the global financial crisis of 2008.
The original proposal was submitted to the United States House of Representatives, with the purpose of purchasing bad assets, reducing uncertainty regarding the worth of the remaining assets, and restoring confidence in the credit markets. The bill was then expanded and put forth as an amendment to H.R. 3997.[4] The amendment was rejected via a vote of the House of Representatives on September 29, 2008, voting 205–228.[5]
However, it would be tough to blame the crisis on hyperinflation when the inflation levels leading up to the crisis were at historic lows.
Question for you: Who was president in 2008?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 (Division A of Pub.L. 110-343, 122 Stat. 3765, enacted October 3, 2008, commonly referred to as a bailout of the U.S. financial system, is a law enacted in response to the subprime mortgage crisis authorizing the United States Secretary of the Treasury to spend up to US$700 billion to purchase distressed assets, especially mortgage-backed securities, and make capital injections into banks.[1][2] Both foreign and domestic banks are included in the program. The Federal Reserve also extended help to American Express, whose bank-holding application it recently approved.[3] The Act was proposed by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson during the global financial crisis of 2008.
The original proposal was submitted to the United States House of Representatives, with the purpose of purchasing bad assets, reducing uncertainty regarding the worth of the remaining assets, and restoring confidence in the credit markets. The bill was then expanded and put forth as an amendment to H.R. 3997.[4] The amendment was rejected via a vote of the House of Representatives on September 29, 2008, voting 205–228.[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
On November 12, 2008, Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulson indicated that reviving the securitization market for consumer credit would be a new priority in the second allotment.[16][17]
On December 19, 2008, President Bush used his executive authority to declare that TARP funds may be spent on any program that Secretary of Treasury Henry Paulson,[18] deemed necessary to alleviate the financial crisis.
On December 31, 2008, the Treasury issued a report reviewing Section 102, the Troubled Assets Insurance Financing Fund, also known as the "Asset Guarantee Program." The report indicated that the program would likely not be made "widely available."[19]
On January 15, 2009, the Treasury issued interim final rules for reporting and record keeping requirements under the executive compensation standards of the Capital Purchase Program (CPP).[20]
On January 21, 2009, the Treasury announced new regulations regarding disclosure and mitigation of conflicts of interest in its TARP contracting.[21]
On February 5, 2009, the Senate approved changes to the TARP that prohibited firms receiving TARP funds from paying bonu...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
On November 12, 2008, Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulson indicated that reviving the securitization market for consumer credit would be a new priority in the second allotment.[16][17]
On December 19, 2008, President Bush used his executive authority to declare that TARP funds may be spent on any program that Secretary of Treasury Henry Paulson,[18] deemed necessary to alleviate the financial crisis.
On December 31, 2008, the Treasury issued a report reviewing Section 102, the Troubled Assets Insurance Financing Fund, also known as the "Asset Guarantee Program." The report indicated that the program would likely not be made "widely available."[19]
On January 15, 2009, the Treasury issued interim final rules for reporting and record keeping requirements under the executive compensation standards of the Capital Purchase Program (CPP).[20]
On January 21, 2009, the Treasury announced new regulations regarding disclosure and mitigation of conflicts of interest in its TARP contracting.[21]
On February 5, 2009, the Senate approved changes to the TARP that prohibited firms receiving TARP funds from paying bonuses to their 25 highest-paid employees. The measure was proposed by Christopher Dodd of Connecticut as an amendment to the $900 billion economic stimulus act then waiting to be passed.[22]
On February 10, 2009, the newly confirmed Secretary of the Treasury Timothy Geithner outlined his plan to use the remaining $300 billion or so in TARP funds. He intended to direct $50 billion towards foreclosure mitigation and use the rest to help fund private investors to buy toxic assets from banks. Nevertheless, this highly anticipated speech coincided with a nearly 5 percent drop in the S&P 500 and was criticized for lacking details.[23]
On March 23, 2009, U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner announced a Public-Private Investment Program (P-PIP) to buy toxic assets from banks' balance sheets. The major stock market indexes in the United States rallied on the day of the announcement rising by over six percent with the shares of bank stocks leading the way.[24] P-PIP has two primary programs. The Legacy Loans Program will attempt to buy residential loans from bank's balance sheets. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) will provide non-recourse loan guarantees for up to 85 percent of the purchase price of legacy loans. Private sector asset managers and the U.S. Treasury will provide the remaining assets. The second program is called the legacy securities program, which will buy residential mortgage backed securities (RMBS) that were originally rated AAA and commercial mortgage-backed securities (CMBS) and asset-backed securities (ABS) which are rated AAA. The funds will come in many instances in equal parts from the U.S. Treasury's TARP monies, private investors, and from loans from the Federal Reserve's Term Asset Lending Facility (TALF). The initial size of the Public Private Investment Partnership is projected to be $500 billion.[25] Economist and Nobel Prize winner Paul Krugman has been very critical of this program arguing the non-recourse loans lead to a hidden subsidy that will be split by asset managers, banks' shareholders and creditors.[26] Banking analyst Meredith Whitney argues that banks will not sell bad assets at fair market values because they are reluctant to take asset write downs.[27] Removing toxic assets would also reduce the volatility of banks' stock prices. This lost volatility will hurt the stock price of distressed banks. Therefore, such banks will only sell toxic assets at above market prices.[28]
On April 19, the Obama administration outlined the conversion of Banks Bailouts to Equity Share.[29]
They mean little to me because I don't have a need for other people to view those issues the same way I do. As long as people keep their hands out of my pockets and keep the government out of my personal life, then think what you like.
A couple of the questions below have actual rejoinders that turn the finger back at the pointer....like this one:
"· Ask them why they oppose the death penalty but are okay with killing babies. "
Now, if you look at it in the true context, if you are anti-abortion....how can you possibly endorse capital punishment?
If you are a Christian...you CANNOT embrace the death penalty. It goes against what Christ said. Keep in mind that the "eye for an eye" was Old Testament....and Christ's Words were completely different.
An erstwhile "conservative" SHOULD NEVER challenge a "liberal" on the issue of draft dodging...NEVER!! Why? Because even the GOP has made it irrelevant...look at Limbaugh, look at Cheney, look a Bush Jr....yeah Bush Jr was supposedly in the TXANG, but funny thing is....no-one has ever seen his 201 file now have they, its as big a boondoggle as Obama's birth certificate. The fact is, the draft has been gone for one helluva long time now...in fact it ended in 1973....almost 40 years ago. Whoooppeeee crap.... In fact for anyone under the age of 50 to even raise the issue in a conversation is hypocrisy on a major level ....unless they have served in the military. Many r...
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A couple of the questions below have actual rejoinders that turn the finger back at the pointer....like this one:
"· Ask them why they oppose the death penalty but are okay with killing babies. "
Now, if you look at it in the true context, if you are anti-abortion....how can you possibly endorse capital punishment?
If you are a Christian...you CANNOT embrace the death penalty. It goes against what Christ said. Keep in mind that the "eye for an eye" was Old Testament....and Christ's Words were completely different.
An erstwhile "conservative" SHOULD NEVER challenge a "liberal" on the issue of draft dodging...NEVER!! Why? Because even the GOP has made it irrelevant...look at Limbaugh, look at Cheney, look a Bush Jr....yeah Bush Jr was supposedly in the TXANG, but funny thing is....no-one has ever seen his 201 file now have they, its as big a boondoggle as Obama's birth certificate. The fact is, the draft has been gone for one helluva long time now...in fact it ended in 1973....almost 40 years ago. Whoooppeeee crap.... In fact for anyone under the age of 50 to even raise the issue in a conversation is hypocrisy on a major level ....unless they have served in the military. Many republicans never served a single day in the service and avoided it like the plague.
Here's a sample of the differences:
Service Records – Comparing Democrats To Republicans
Democrats
David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72
Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, etc
Jimmy Carter: Lt. Commander in the Navy 1946-53
Wesley Clark: Army 1966-2000, Vietnam, Silver star, purple heart
Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver/Bronze stars, Vietnam
Bill Clinton: Did not serve (opposed war)
Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72
Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze star
Michael Dukakis: Army 1955-57
John Edwards: Did not serve
Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71
John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs; Air Medal w/18 Clusters
Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam as journalist
Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74
Howell Heflin: Silver star WWII
Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze star
Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII
Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53
Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam
John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver/Bronze stars, purple hearts
Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII
Jim McDermott: Navy 1968-70
George McGovern: Silver star & DFC during WWII
Zell Miller: Marine Corps, 1953-56
Walter Mondale: Army 1951-53\
John Murtha: Retired Marine officer and decorated Vietnam combat veteran
Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver star, etc
Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze star, Korea
Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-79; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91
Chuck Robb: U.S. Marine Corps, 1961-70, Vietnam
Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57
Mike Thompson: Staff Sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart
John Conyers – US Army
Republicans
Spencer Abraham: Did not serve
Eliot Abrams: Did not serve
Richard Armitage: Navy, three tours in Vietnam
John Ashcroft: Did not serve
Roy Blunt: Did not serve
Michael Bloomberg: Did not serve
George W. Bush: Texas Air Nat. Guard; skipped duty; didn't take physical; suspended from flying
Jeb Bush: Did not serve
Saxby Chambliss: Did not serve. Attacked Cleland's patriotism
Dick Cheney: Did not serve
Christopher Cox: Did not serve
Tom DeLay: Did not serve
John Engler: Did not serve
Douglas Feith: Did not serve
Bill Frist: Did not serve
Newt Gingrich: Did not serve
Rudy Giuliani: Did not serve
Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer
Phil Gramm: Did not serve
Dennis Hastert: Did not serve
Tim Hutchison: Did not serve
Jack Kemp: Did not serve. "Knee problem," continued in NFL for 8 years
Jon Kyl: Did not serve
Trent Lott: Did not serve
John McCain: POW in Vietnam, Legion of Merit, Silver star, DFC, many more
Mitch McConnell: Did not serve
John McHugh: Did not serve
George Pataki: Did not serve
Richard Perle: Did not serve
Colin Powell: 35 years in Army, 4-star general
Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard
Dana Rohrabacher: Did not serve
Karl Rove: Did not serve
Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor
Rick Santorum: Did not serve
Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base
Richard Shelby: Did not serve
JC Watts: Did not serve
Vin Weber: Did not serve
Paul Wolfowitz: Did not serve
Andy Card – no service
Condi Rice – no service
John Bolton – no service
Don Nichols – no service
David Dreier - no service
Pundits, Preachers, and Judges
Bill Bennett: Did not serve
Wolf Blitzer: Did not serve
Pat Buchanan: Did not serve
Mann Coulter: Did not serve
Charlie Daniels: Did not serve
Lou Dobbs: Did not serve
Paul Gigot: Did not serve
Sean Hannity: Did not serve
Bill Kristol: Did not serve
Rush Limbaugh: Did not serve
Chris Matthews: Did not serve
Michael Medved: Did not serve
Ted Nugent: Did not serve
Bill O'Reilly: Did not serve
Dan Rather: Army Reserves
Ralph Reed: Did not serve
Michael Savage: Did not serve
Antonin Scalia: Did not serve
Kenneth Starr: Did not serve
Clarence Thomas: Did not serve
George Will: Did not serve
Roger Ailes (Fox) – Did not serve
Anne Coulter – Did not serve
Fred Barnes – Did not serve
Gary Bauer – Did not serve
Neil Bortz – Did not serve
Tony Snow - Did not serve
Pat Robertson - US Army
Jerry Falwell - Did not serve
Kinda interesting, eh? Seems that "liberals" are actually more "patriotic" than ersatz conservatives who talk, but fail to do as they preach.... Did you notice the level of Awards for Valor that were awarded to "LIBERALS"? Did you note that TWO of the dastardly "liberals" were awarded the "MEDAL OF HONOR"????
I am an ultra-conservative....and one thing I literally despise about the internet is that it makes it so freaking easy to spread lies and disinformation...for the gullible to lap it up.
Lets deal with facts.....not lies and fiction, OK?