Colorado student quits high school choir over Islamic song praising 'Allah'. Reasonable or not?

by Heffeweizen Posted 2012/02/16 22:59:27

Related Topics: Allah, Prayer, God, Muslim, School, Racist, High School, Student, Email, Issues, District, Indian

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		Yes, This Action Is Reasonable
		No, This Action Is Way Off Base
		Seems To Be The Classic Liberal Bugaboo Of Separation Of Church And State
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	Yes, This Action Is Reasonable	115 votes	76%
	No, This Action Is Way Off Base	9 votes	6%
	Seems To Be The Classic Liberal Bugaboo Of Separation Of Church And State	9 votes	6%
	Undecided	6 votes	4%
	None of the above	13 votes	9%

Seems to me that the kid has a viable argument. The MSM tends to get very excited over Church and State issues, and this definitely seems to apply to that category. What say you?

A Colorado high school student says he quit the school choir after an Islamic song containing the lyric "there is no truth except Allah" made it into the repertoire.

James Harper, a senior at Grand Junction High School in Grand Junction, put his objection to singing "Zikr," a song written by Indian composer A.R. Rahman, in an email to Mesa County School District 51 officials. When the school stood by choir director Marcia Wieland's selection, Harper said, he quit.

"I don’t want to come across as a bigot or a racist, but I really don’t feel it is appropriate for students in a public high school to be singing an Islamic worship song,” Harper told KREX-TV. "This is worshipping another God, and even worshipping another prophet ... I think there would be a lot of outrage if we made a Muslim choir say Jesus Christ is the only truth."

Read the whole story here:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/15/colorado-student-reporte...

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J Montana~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/02/16 23:09:38

Seems To Be The Classic Liberal Bugaboo Of Separation Of Church And State

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Enroll that boy in ROTC! :P

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Andy 2012/03/05 04:32:11

Yes, This Action Is Reasonable

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We are being told to not offend the Muslim... what about the Christians?? He did what was right for him... God Bless!!

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Bocephus 2012/02/22 22:51:59

Yes, This Action Is Reasonable

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So it begins. This Man stood up for what he believed. We might all have to do this at one point.

Draw a line in the sand. And never compromise your faith for any reason. I would have done the same thing and support this student 100% . Good for him.

That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.Romans 10:9 >>

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Sherlock Dog BL - a Gazillion 2012/02/18 18:29:59
Heffewe... to Sherloc... 2012/02/21 09:02:59

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Sherloc... to Heffewe... 2012/02/21 13:30:12
4dc 2012/02/18 14:29:05

Seems To Be The Classic Liberal Bugaboo Of Separation Of Church And State

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if the line were "There is no truth other than god" how many people would have a problem with it? too many but switch it to "allah" and we're supposed to be tolerant

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GINGERB... to 4dc 2012/02/20 11:17:16

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THese F^%$#$@# liberals keep trying to shove this "DIVERSITY" up our noses. And they act "SURPRISED" because we tell them in as loud a voice as we can, get the "F" out of our lives.

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rustyshackelford 2012/02/18 08:23:26
nicotene 2012/02/18 07:39:30 (edited)

Yes, This Action Is Reasonable

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Same reason I didn't participate in the Xmas show at school. all Xmas songs sing about baby Jesus..

Be careful what you wish for with prayer in school. You will have to except all religions not just the one you like...

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MrsJJS 2012/02/18 06:02:13

Yes, This Action Is Reasonable

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It didn't seem that the young man had a problem with the Christian songs, so in his mind it wasn't an issue of church in state it was an issue of faith. No one can force him to sing a song he believes goes against his religious beliefs, so it's his right, (enjoy them while you can) to remove himself from the choir. Fair play to him...not many young children are brave enough to publicly stand up for what they believe in.

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zapped 2012/02/17 20:23:12

Yes, This Action Is Reasonable

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again folks this where this whole sherade is going ,,,,,,

muslims & sharia law .........overtaking christainity ......!

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LADY LI... to zapped 2012/02/20 12:31:25

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FIRE THAT TEACHER MARCIE WIELAND! DEPORT HER TO EGYPT SO SHE CAN

KISS ALL ARABS' REAR ENDS and SHE CAN BECOME A SEX SLAVE IN A HAREM!

AD NAUSEAM!

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Ron in Oregon 2012/02/17 20:09:18

Yes, This Action Is Reasonable

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The only other option would be to stand there and hold up a sign saying that he would not praise Allah.

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belle 2012/02/17 19:39:21

Yes, This Action Is Reasonable

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He is not coming across as a bigot or racist, Remember there have been so many other religious believers has been vocal about many Christians beliefs. Happy Holiday instead od Merry Christmas give me a break. I support his young man and hope their will be others to follow him.

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anjhap 2012/02/17 18:31:12

Yes, This Action Is Reasonable

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However kids are required across the US every day to say "under god" in the pledge of allegiance every day?

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Ron in ... to anjhap 2012/02/17 20:12:07

When I learned the pledge it was noy in it and it was hard to add it as it never sounded right.

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Heffewe... to anjhap 2012/02/18 07:07:53

Many schools don't even do the Pledge anymore and in those that do, I believe the under God part is optional. I don't know that for a fact, though. Just things I have heard.

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Michael... to anjhap 2012/02/19 01:40:56

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Where is it writen that kids are "required" to...?

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anjhap to Michael... 2012/02/21 02:18:51

Of course they don't outright say that you aren't required to, but being a 5th grade kid and not understanding that it's unnecessary to add it doesn't make it any different. All i know is when I was in 5th grade, my teacher would get mad if i skipped any part of the pledge. And yes, even now they require kids to say the pledge of allegiance in the schools around where I live.

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Dead Gi... to anjhap 2012/03/11 11:25:23

If it's a requirement, that's illegal of the schools to do. xP

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Dead Gi... to anjhap 2012/03/11 11:24:11

Back in high school, I never said the pledge, during my junior and senior years.
I didn't say it because I wasn't going to pledge to this government that I was very angry at at the time.
A few of my teachers became angry with me for not saying it, but legally then couldn't make me. C:

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Wretha S 2012/02/17 18:13:41

Yes, This Action Is Reasonable

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He has the right to choose not to participate in choir, the funny thing is if this had been over a Christian song, and ONE student was offended then they would have pulled the Christian song with no questions asked, oh never mind, it wouldn't have been allowed in the first place...

Wretha

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Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning 2012/02/17 17:47:49

Yes, This Action Is Reasonable

+4
Good for him!

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Bear 2012/02/17 17:46:10

Yes, This Action Is Reasonable

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guy can choose to be in the choir or not....but it is a silly thing to get upset about

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Kerri 2012/02/17 17:45:41 (edited)

Yes, This Action Is Reasonable

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He should do as he pleases.

He just sounds like a wienie attention whore like so many are today. If the line bothered him or others they could have just spoken with the leader about not singing that phrase...or opt out of the song completely.

Nah...first thing this kid does is call a radio station. I am sick of people waiting to be offended so they can be on TV.

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mwf122090 2012/02/17 17:42:34

None of the above

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I can respect both sides of the argument. When you join a performing group, you have to realize that the music you may be performing may not necessarily fit your beliefs. There were various times in high school where things like this happened. If the student didn't agree with what the song said the teacher didn't make them perform that song.

I can respect the student's decision to not be apart of it though. In the end if the song is against his beliefs system he is well within is right to file a complaint and then leave the group if things don't change.

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ur XLNC 2012/02/17 17:40:55 (edited)

Undecided

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If Christian songs are sung and he participates in singing them, them he has an empty argument. If Christian songs are NOT performed, then 'Right On'!

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dave b 2012/02/17 17:01:05

Yes, This Action Is Reasonable

+4
Good for him.

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Hawk 2012/02/17 16:19:58

Yes, This Action Is Reasonable

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It`s refreshing to see a true American quit the choir because he has the balls to do what he thinks is right. We can`t use the word GOD but can use allah?? Too bad more of the student`s didn`t follow his lead. The last time I looked this is still the United STATES OF AMERICA.

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UnusualSuspect 2012/02/17 15:45:42

Yes, This Action Is Reasonable

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It's reasonable in that it's his choice.

He can quit whatever he wants.

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GINGERBREAD 2012/02/17 15:35:28

Yes, This Action Is Reasonable

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It's about time somebody had the cojones to walk away from these people. There should be more people walking away. WE ARE AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A JUDEO-CHRISTIAN COUNTRY. THESE "F"ers, these self appointed "ELITES" keep trying to change our way of life, our society everything that they hate about us. Time to fight back

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Jacob 2012/02/17 15:33:33

Yes, This Action Is Reasonable

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Religious songs should NOT be in school at all. Seperation of school and religion. Plus why on earth are they trying to do that? It has no learning to it. Stick woth the songs that work the volcals like say phantom of the Oprah

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Space Invader 2012/02/17 15:25:24

Yes, This Action Is Reasonable

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Don't drink the water of deception..good man. This is why schools and 50% drop out rates are a fact....

I guess a Marxist in DC is good for students across the land

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Evan 2012/02/17 15:02:40

Yes, This Action Is Reasonable

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I'm disappointed in those who did NOT quit the choir over the singing of praise to allah. I'm surprised too that the school condones mixing church and state..or does the "separation of Church and state" only apply to CHRISTIAN religions and songs? Surely that can't be the case?

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lucky 2012/02/17 14:56:50

Yes, This Action Is Reasonable

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I would have stayed in the choir but refused to sing the song but I understand why he quit. Songs of a religious nature should not be assigned by a teacher.

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LADY LI... to lucky 2012/02/20 11:40:39

THE STUDENT JAMES HARPER IS MY HERO FOR STANDING UP FOR WHAT HE

BELIEVES, THERE'S A LOT OF MEN IN THAT BOY!!!

NOW HE and HIS FAMILY GET LOTS OF DEATH THREATS and HATE MAILS!!!

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lucky to LADY LI... 2012/02/20 15:35:49

Maybe so but his quitting will accomplish very little, the better thing for him to have done was talk to the other members and get everyone who agreed with him to stand up with him and refuse to sing the song. That would have forced the schools hand where as now he is just one kid that quit choir and nothing changes.

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Ukie 2012/02/17 14:17:01

Yes, This Action Is Reasonable

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Good for him!! Why is Allah allowed and God is not??

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Wahvlvke 2012/02/17 13:07:54

Yes, This Action Is Reasonable

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This young man has more principle in his little finger that the entire crat party has combined.

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All American 2012/02/17 12:23:23

Yes, This Action Is Reasonable

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Eminently reasonable. Religious hymns should be reserved for church, not high schools, especially one of another religion / political system.

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