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Colorado Gov. Refuses To Call For Stronger Gun Laws In Wake Of Theater Shooting

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By Pat Garofalo on Jul 22, 2012 at 10:19 am

During an appearance on ABC’s This Week, Gov. John Hickenlooper (D-CO) refused to call for stronger gun control laws in the wake of the tragic movie theater shooting in his state. After saying that a reexamination of Colorado’s gun control laws is “going to happen,” Hickenlooper told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos that even if there were stronger restrictions, the alleged shooter would “have found something else” to commit the murders:

STEPHANOPOULOS: Does it make you think, at this point, that you need to take another look at Colorado’s gun laws?

HICKENLOOPER: You know, I’m sure that’s going to happen. But I look at this — this wasn’t a Colorado problem, this was a human problem, right, and how we can have such a warped individual and no one around them be aware. I worry that if we got rid of all the guns — certainly, we have so many guns in this country and we do have a lot more gun violence — but even if he didn’t have access to guns, this guy was diabolical, right? He would have found explosives, he would have found something else, some sort of poisonous gas, something to create this horror.

Hickenlooper made similar comments on CNN’s State of the Union. As ThinkProgress noted yesterday, Virginia’s Senate candidates also dodged gun control questions.

The weapon used by the alleged shooter would have been covered by the assault weapons ban that was allowed to expire in 2004. The high capacity clip used was also covered by the ban. Later during ABC’s show, former Gov. Ed Rendell (D-PA) said that no citizen should have access to an assault rifle. “No one should have that kind of killing machine,” he said.
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  • jackola... Tuna 2012/07/23 18:39:06
    jackolantyrn356
    The Murder and th horrid plans of the Democrats might just backfire on them in a way of disaster.for them
  • ALofRI Tuna 2012/07/23 19:11:13
    ALofRI
    +1
    So, you're REALLY NOT against "Sharia Law?? You'd like us to become a third world country, have public executions, throw out the laws, just as many of which were written by conservatives? Who is blaming the victims??

    Most "Progressives" WANT serious crimes dealt with seriously, don't like victims blamed. VERY few liberals blame the woman when a rape is performed, more often it is a religious conservative. WE have far left crackpots just like YOU have far right crackpots. There seem to be far more liberals ready to meet in the middle, like an American should.
  • Tuna ALofRI 2012/07/23 19:41:07
    Tuna
    I'm talking about the bible dude; the LAW God gave us to live by but we don't. If we think we know better than God, then we can't blame him for these events. If we do it his way, we will do fine.
  • ALofRI Tuna 2012/07/23 20:22:13
    ALofRI
    People (if they choose), put their hand on the Bible and swear to uphold the Constitution, they DON'T put their hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible!
  • Old Geecer 2012/07/23 15:22:04
    I agree with the Gov.
    Old Geecer
    +1
    Outlawing weapons will solve "nothing" it is the people behind the gun that is the problem. How do we know when somebody will snap? We know mental illness contributes to most group killing, this is a sickness that we know nothing about or how to combat it, it is a disease of our culture! Nobody has a fix for this problem. I do blame TV for 90% of this problem, from News to Movies!
  • fudge35 2012/07/23 15:14:44
    I say.
    fudge35
    +1
    I'm tired of weak knee politicians who shake in their boots if the NRA says boo to them. Why do the industrial nations that have strict gun control have such a low number of gun deaths???? The NRA isn't a gun safety club anymore, it's an extremest right wing political organization!!
  • ZenerSix fudge35 2012/07/23 15:31:17 (edited)
    ZenerSix
    +1
    Why do countries with strict gun control laws, or no right to bare firearms, have more stabbing, beating, and drowning deaths????
  • fudge35 ZenerSix 2012/07/23 21:30:51
    fudge35
    First place countries that are a democracy, and have strict gun control do have right to bare arms, they just don't have the crazies that we do that want to allow every psycho, or criminal to have military type guns. The NRA not only has morphed into a political organization they are lobbyist for the gun manufactures. So yeah they want to sell guns to everybody. more money for them. You can't be serious that they kill more people without a gun, then this country does with guns??? You have really swallowed the NRA propaganda!!!
  • ZenerSix fudge35 2012/07/24 01:34:44 (edited)
    ZenerSix
    Democratic governments don't have the power to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and psychos. All they can do is disarm law abiding citizens. All free country that allow people to own guns also have criminals and psychos with guns. Granted they may not have as many as we do but, they don't have as many people as we do either. Nothing short of a fascist police state can disarm everyone. Is that what you want?

    The NRA hasn't changed much as far as I can tell. It's always been a special interest group that lobbies on behalf of it's members, which includes everyone from gun owners to gun manufacturers, to protect our right to bare arms. Money isn't the impetus of the NRA, it's simply the need to protect our 2nd amendment from idiots who want to get rid of it.

    The intent of the 2nd amendment was to give us. the people, the means to overthrow government and replace it if and when necessary. So it makes perfect sense to me that we ought to have the right to own any convention firearm used by the military and police.
  • fudge35 ZenerSix 2012/07/29 23:03:58
    fudge35
    Democratic governments do keep guns out of the criminals, psychos hands, it's called gun regulations something this country has little of. Canada for instance has very strict gun laws, but they are a country of hunters, so most people do have guns, they just aren't automatic military type guns. The NRA is very different than they were 60 years ago.Then it was about hunter safety. Now they are big time lobbyist for the gun manufactures, and take money to run ads against liberals. So yes they are a much different organization then they use to be.
  • ZenerSix fudge35 2012/07/30 01:43:37 (edited)
    ZenerSix
    That depends on what you think is 'little'. It doesn't matter how much gun control other countries have. Here in America the US Constitution, 2nd amendment says we have the right to bare arms. It doesn't say the federal government has the power to regulate it. This power has been inferred by a succession of erroneous rulings by corrupt judges over many generations.
  • fudge35 ZenerSix 2012/08/01 03:34:46
    fudge35
    I realize other countries don't have the 2nd amendment, my point was this falacy by the right wing that gun control doesn't work, well it does work in other countries. Just because the 2nd amendment doesn't say the government has the power to regulate, doesn't mean they can't. For example the 1st amendment freedom of speech has regulations, even though it doesn't give the government power to regulate it. We have laws against libel, and you could be arrested for screaming fire in a crowded theater when there wasn't one, or use profanity on network T.V. or radio. With your concise reading of the 2nd amendment, then that should mean it should only pertain to muskets since that is the only type of gun that we had when written!!!!
  • ZenerSix fudge35 2012/08/01 05:41:45 (edited)
    ZenerSix
    How do you know gun control works in other countries?

    The US constitution limits the powers of the federal government to what is explicitly enumerated in it. So every example you give where the US government is exorcising powers that are not enumerated in the Constitution is a violation of the constitution.

    The 2nd amendment states that our right to bare arms is necessary for the state militias to secure their freedom. It doesn't limit anything, it means we have the right to bare whatever arms our enemies might bare, whether they be foreign or domestic.

    So YA! ...if you can afford it.
    nuclear artillery
  • fudge35 ZenerSix 2012/08/01 23:20:31
    fudge35
    How do I know gun control works? I look at statistics of other countries. The U.K. has 4 tenths of 1 person gun deaths for every 100,000.
    Japan has even less .07% of a person for every 100,000
    Canada is a little looser with gun control, they have 4 people killed for every 100,000.
    Same with Switzerland 4 for every 100,000.
    The U.S. no other country comes close 14 persons killed with a gun for every 100,000!!!!!! So gun control does work. As you see the countries that have tighter controls have less deaths.
  • ZenerSix fudge35 2012/08/02 03:28:21 (edited)
    ZenerSix
    And what percentage of those gun deaths were innocent victims vs. bad guys who became the victims of their victims? Countries with stronger gun control have fewer gun deaths = more bad guys.
  • fudge35 ZenerSix 2012/08/02 20:48:09
    fudge35
    +1
    Now how in the hell did you come up with that, countries that have strong gun control have more bad guys???? Jeez, you must have pulled that one out of your ass!!!! You really sound very desperate to defend no gun control!!!
  • ZenerSix fudge35 2012/08/02 22:10:17
    ZenerSix
    I will defend my liberty. It's not desperation but determination.
  • fudge35 ZenerSix 2012/08/02 23:17:51
    fudge35
    Yeah, your determined to see half of the population killed with guns.
  • ZenerSix fudge35 2012/08/03 23:37:41 (edited)
    ZenerSix
    Only the bad half.
  • fudge35 ZenerSix 2012/08/09 22:31:56
    fudge35
    The problem with that, I don't trust your idea of who the bad half is!!
  • ZenerSix fudge35 2012/08/09 23:32:51 (edited)
    ZenerSix
    My family does.
  • Larry fudge35 2012/07/23 15:33:11
    Larry
    +2
    That guy was a nut case, you can't control them type and you don't know when they are going to strike. If he didn't have guns he would have just throw a few home made bombs or maybe tossed 10 or 15 gallon of gas in there on the people an threw a match, why people ALWAYS blame the guns is beyond me, If he had gone in there and started spraying people gas and burnt a bunch people then I guess we would start yelling we need better gas control laws
  • Herb Larry 2012/07/23 18:49:31
    Herb
    +2
    he is right stricter gun laws wouldnt help. this guy had clamor minds boobie trapped or chemical weapons in his apartment what if he would have used those instead. how many more people would have died. you can make bomb from house hold chemicals and fertilizers and parts from a hardware store. What kills more people guns or bombs just look to isreal.
    quote
    I worry that if we got rid of all the guns — certainly, we have so many guns in this country and we do have a lot more gun violence — but even if he didn’t have access to guns, this guy was diabolical, right? He would have found explosives, he would have found something else, some sort of poisonous gas, something to create this horror.
  • ALofRI Herb 2012/07/23 19:26:46
    ALofRI
    "Clamor minds"?? "boobie trapped"?
  • Herb ALofRI 2012/07/23 20:15:45
    Herb
    thats what they found in his apartments minds and homemade chemical weapons
    you can make bomb with household chemiclas and parts form a hardware stores.
    stricter guns laws wont stop that will it.
  • fudge35 Larry 2012/07/23 21:33:29
    fudge35
    So just allow crazy people to purchase military style guns and ammo huh?? Sounds like you have given up on a civil society!!!!
  • Larry fudge35 2012/07/23 22:13:03
    Larry
    That's not what I said, at all, I don't know why you cant comprehend what I said, well maybe someone else can explain it better than I, but really it's very simple
  • Chris -... fudge35 2012/07/23 16:10:27
    Chris - The Rowdy One! #187
    Would you be happier if more people were pushed out of windows?
  • fudge35 Chris -... 2012/07/23 21:34:26
    fudge35
    Sorry to stupid of a question to answer!!
  • Chris -... fudge35 2012/07/24 13:21:51
    Chris - The Rowdy One! #187
    It is stupid because I was responding to your lunacy.
  • Herb fudge35 2012/07/23 18:49:52
    Herb
    he is right stricter gun laws wouldnt help. this guy had clamor minds boobie trapped or chemical weapons in his apartment what if he would have used those instead. how many more people would have died. you can make bomb from house hold chemicals and fertilizers and parts from a hardware store. What kills more people guns or bombs just look to isreal.
    quote
    I worry that if we got rid of all the guns — certainly, we have so many guns in this country and we do have a lot more gun violence — but even if he didn’t have access to guns, this guy was diabolical, right? He would have found explosives, he would have found something else, some sort of poisonous gas, something to create this horror.
  • fudge35 Herb 2012/07/23 21:41:17
    fudge35
    Well sure they can always find away, just like the Oklahoma city terrorist attack. But do we have to make it easy for them. No laws against anybody buying military weapons. Buy all that stuff on line, at least have some control and make them work harder to their dirty deeds!!!
  • ALofRI fudge35 2012/07/23 19:23:02
    ALofRI
    That's why I quit them back in the Charleton Heston era! They USED to be a great organization when they leaned to the liberal side of safety and teaching the youth of America the RIGHT way of handeling guns. Funny, when they leaned left, they taught right, now they lean right and teach killing "in self defence" is most often hard to disprove.
  • Larry ALofRI 2012/07/23 20:18:43
    Larry
    That's so much bull
  • fudge35 ALofRI 2012/07/23 21:45:17
    fudge35
    Yeah I agree. My father a hunter belonged to NRA, and I can remember them just as you described. My dad would turn over in his grave if he knew what a corrupt organization they have become. It just proves the old adage money corrupts.
  • Lanikai 2012/07/23 15:11:38
    I agree with the Gov.
    Lanikai
    +3
    I agree. The criminals will always get guns, so the citizens should be armed to the teeth.
  • ✿Britt ❤'s Steven Tyler✿ 2012/07/23 14:57:30
    I say.
    ✿Britt ❤'s Steven Tyler✿
    meh, i don't live in colorado so i don't care. i also could really care less about guns so it don't bother me. :)
  • ZenerSix ✿Britt ... 2012/07/23 15:37:47 (edited)
    ZenerSix
    It's not isolated in Colorado, and it's not going to bother you until someone points one at you. If you even have time to think, you'll be wishing you had more than lipstick and condoms in your purse.
  • ✿Britt ... ZenerSix 2012/07/23 15:48:47
    ✿Britt ❤'s Steven Tyler✿
    yerp.
  • Semper Fi 2012/07/23 14:32:22
    I agree with the Gov.
    Semper Fi
    +3
    Nothing wrong with our gun laws, just a few too many looney tunes running around out there who need to be weeded out.

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