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City Of Cambridge Considers Soda Ban in Restaurants: Approve?

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Banning foods has gained momentum in urban, Democratic strongholds like San Francisco, New York and now Cambridge, Massachusetts. The city council of Cambridge ignored the negative backlash by the public regarding New York city's plan to ban large sugary sodas. Cambridge wants to pass a similar measure because they believe they can help stop obesity by outlawing a single food item.

Cambridge's Policy Order Resolution:
June 18, 2012

MAYOR DAVIS

WHEREAS: High intake of soda and other sugar-sweetened beverages increases the risk of obesity and diabetes; and

WHEREAS:

New York City has a plan to limit the serving size of soda and other sugar-sweetened beverages sold in restaurants; now therefore be it

ORDERED:

That the City Manager be and hereby is requested to refer the matter of a ban on soda and sugar-sweetened beverages in restaurants to the Cambridge Public Health Department for a recommendation.
City of Cambridge Massachusetts
Tell Mayor Henrietta Davis your thoughts...
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  • JenSemPa 2012/06/19 07:50:40
    Disapprove
    JenSemPa
    +11
    I don't drink soda very often at all. I keep to a very healthy diet most of the time.

    BUT ... I'm against this whole nanny-state idea of banning soda, banning Happy Meals, and so on.

    Soda and "junk food" has been around for ages, but the obesity epidemic is a relatively recent phenomenon.

    So, America's waistlines are not going to get smaller because of nanny-state bans on fattening foods and drinks.

    They'll get smaller when people turn off their computers and X-Boxes and start exercising again.

    They'll also get smaller when people -- not the government -- start making responsible choices for themselves and their kids.

    turn computers x-boxes exercising smaller people government responsible choices kids

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  • gregaj7 2012/06/19 18:40:33
    Disapprove
    gregaj7
    +4
    Alcohol is probably more harmful.
  • MOMMA THOMAS 2012/06/19 17:56:54
    Disapprove
    MOMMA THOMAS
    +4
    KNOW THAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING WHAT THEY THINK IS BEST, BUT SODA DRINKERS WILL EXSIST AS LONG AS SODA IS PRODUCED.... SEEMS LIKE THIS COULD LEAD TO "BANNING" SO MANY OTHER "BAD" THINGS WE DRINK/EAT. REMEMBER, ..PROHIBITION DIDN'T WORK?
  • Katherine MOMMA T... 2012/06/20 11:39:39
    Katherine
    That's how you go about taking away freedoms. Use something like health, something..... ~*~altruistic~*~. Eventually you have no rights, and it's violent tyranny.
  • frank 2012/06/19 17:06:38
    Disapprove
    frank
    +2
    Why don't they just ban all sugar and sugar-sweetened beverages along with food that has greasy substance to it? Now that would be the BIG BROTHER way of duing things.
  • Bob S 2012/06/19 16:56:04
    Disapprove
    Bob S
    +3
    Gee what will all of the Harvard and MIT students do to cram for finals. They might turn to weed or other enahncement drugs to keep them awake. They are the future of America.
  • Selkets... Bob S 2012/06/19 19:32:26
    Selketskiss
    +2
    LMAO.....
  • Claybern 2012/06/19 16:55:10
    Disapprove
    Claybern
    +4
    This is government nannyism.
  • bob'45 2012/06/19 16:51:48
    Disapprove
    bob'45
    +5
    Well.... It seems to me that the people in the cities that voted for the politicians that are determined to ban sodas etc., want the government to regulate their lives. Guess they're happy with the Nanny Staters. Good luck with that.
  • cmdrbnd007 2012/06/19 16:48:49
    Disapprove
    cmdrbnd007
    +5
    Who the HELL do these people think they are? So it's ok to get alcohol but good forbid you order a Pepsi. This world is going FREAKEN crazy!
  • Selkets... cmdrbnd007 2012/06/19 19:36:06 (edited)
    Selketskiss
    +4
    I swear it has to be in the water or air...this many people can not all go insane all around the same time with the same crazy thoughts..wanting to be so controlled that they give others the power to control what they eat and drink...
  • cmdrbnd007 Selkets... 2012/06/20 05:29:33
    cmdrbnd007
    +3
    Thankfully, it appears to be limited to the Coasts so for now I'm pretty safe here in "flyover country." That is until some dumbass in DC decides to go federal with it.
  • Selkets... cmdrbnd007 2012/06/20 05:41:46
    Selketskiss
    +3
    You know.. I am not surprised by anything that goes on anymore...it really is like being in the twilight zone...
  • cmdrbnd007 Selkets... 2012/06/20 05:49:27
    cmdrbnd007
    +3
    And it seems like the people are willing to along with this abridgment of their rights.
  • Selkets... cmdrbnd007 2012/06/20 05:56:11
    Selketskiss
    +3
    yeah like they have been conditioned, to go along and except what is told to them is right so obey...like zombies...LOL
  • cmdrbnd007 Selkets... 2012/06/20 06:28:40
  • Selkets... cmdrbnd007 2012/06/20 08:21:14 (edited)
    Selketskiss
    +2
    Your so funny at 3 am ...LOL...I also call them this.... the scarecrow
    The only difference is he was nice even though he had no brain...LOL
  • cmdrbnd007 Selkets... 2012/06/20 13:28:14
  • Lester 2012/06/19 15:58:15 (edited)
    Approve
    Lester
    Local residents have a right to pass such laws if they want them.
  • Andy Fl... Lester 2012/06/20 05:57:18
    Andy Fletcher
    It's an edict not a vote
  • Lester Andy Fl... 2012/06/20 07:49:07
    Lester
    Every member of the city council got there by a vote.
  • Andy Fl... Lester 2012/06/20 07:59:04
    Andy Fletcher
    +1
    That's true enough. This is the type of thing that should go on the ballot, not done in chambers. You are contradicting your own statement that I replied to.
  • Katherine Andy Fl... 2012/06/20 11:42:23
    Katherine
    We're a REPUBLIC, NOT A DEMOCRACY.
  • Andy Fl... Katherine 2012/06/20 12:39:43
    Andy Fletcher
    Semantics. If you read through this thread you will see folks left and right agree that this is government overstepping it's bounds. Ninety three percent responding so far have chosen "disagree", and a couple that chose "agree" said they clicked the wrong answer. I would wager that 75% at least of the population in Cambridge would also disagree. In other words, this is NOT the type of thing we elect our representatives to do. So next the city council arbitrarily decides the residents of Cambridge can't have purple tennis shoes because for whatever reason they deem purple tennis shoes to be bad for Cambridge. And this will be OK because they were elected? We elect our representatives represent us, not dictate to us. Be careful of what you advocate, because you just might get it.
  • Katherine Andy Fl... 2012/06/20 13:14:04
    Katherine
    Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?
  • Andy Fl... Katherine 2012/06/20 14:16:41
    Andy Fletcher
    At this point I'm not sure because you are all over the place with your opinion. You said "Local residents have to right to pass such laws if they want them". I replied with "It's an edict not a vote". You then chose to play semantics. I'm not disagreeing that local residents have a right to pass such laws if they want them. I'm saying it isn't going to be offered up to them to vote on. If it happens, it will be handed down to them by the officials they elected. You can twist it around all you want, but just because they voted folks into office doesn't mean they voted for this or elected their officials to do this type of thing. They are not the same.
  • Lester Andy Fl... 2012/06/20 17:35:33 (edited)
    Lester
    Please note Katherine and Lester aren't the same person. I generally agree with Katherine though.

    Also note that my initial post had to do with the rights of the local community and was not an attempt to distinguish between elected officials and the general population. So I wasn't actually contradicting myself, because in my initial post it was implicit that "have a right" meant "have a right through their representatives." I didn't make that explicit because that wasn't the point I was addressing.

    Our disagreement seems to be over what people should vote on themselves and what their representatives should vote on. Katherine is right that we live in a republic not a direct democracy, so most laws are passed by representatives. I would guess that no more than 1 out of every 10,000 laws in most communities come about by direct vote. No one seems to be arguing that the Cambridge city council doesn't have the authority to do this. If this sort of thing isn't what the people of Cambridge want their officials deciding, I imagine they could amend their city charter to make that explicit (although I have no idea how you would phrase such a restriction.) Also, if they don't like the law that is passed, there is likely some initiative method they could use to rescind it, or they could alw...

    Please note Katherine and Lester aren't the same person. I generally agree with Katherine though.

    Also note that my initial post had to do with the rights of the local community and was not an attempt to distinguish between elected officials and the general population. So I wasn't actually contradicting myself, because in my initial post it was implicit that "have a right" meant "have a right through their representatives." I didn't make that explicit because that wasn't the point I was addressing.

    Our disagreement seems to be over what people should vote on themselves and what their representatives should vote on. Katherine is right that we live in a republic not a direct democracy, so most laws are passed by representatives. I would guess that no more than 1 out of every 10,000 laws in most communities come about by direct vote. No one seems to be arguing that the Cambridge city council doesn't have the authority to do this. If this sort of thing isn't what the people of Cambridge want their officials deciding, I imagine they could amend their city charter to make that explicit (although I have no idea how you would phrase such a restriction.) Also, if they don't like the law that is passed, there is likely some initiative method they could use to rescind it, or they could always vote in new council members.

    I agree with most of the people on this thread that such a law would likely be ineffectual. However I strongly disagree that what laws a community should have should be based on speculation that the community's views mirror SodaHead. The normal legislative process should be followed (which appears to be what is happening in Cambridge), and if a mistake is made (which I think is fairly unlikely because local politician generally aren't going to vote to get themselves into trouble), there are multiple ways that it can be corrected.
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  • Andy Fl... Lester 2012/06/20 19:53:24
    Andy Fletcher
    ooops! I was following the conversation and not the avatar. My apologies to all.
  • Balladeer-PWCM-POTL 2012/06/19 15:50:36
    Disapprove
    Balladeer-PWCM-POTL
    +3
    I predict an exodus of fast food places and convenience stores from Cambridge...that will really help the econ base...and John Q. Voter REALLY likes a council banning things like sodapop
  • Riobhca 2012/06/19 15:46:25 (edited)
    Disapprove
    Riobhca
    +5
    Absurd. I never drink sodas because they are unhealthy. But I think that individuals, not governments, should make the choice of which foods they consume. This is the Nanny State at its most ridiculous. How much further will people let it go? Soon they will be in our house making us brush our teeth, etc.
  • Fashionable60s 2012/06/19 14:53:26
    Disapprove
    Fashionable60s
    +6
    Mayor Henrietta needs to practice what she preaches. She needs to ban soda and portion of her food in her OWN life. She was elected to be Mayor and not a Nanny to the City of Cambridge. Then, she should also ban alcohol from restaurants/bars since alcohol kills, maims and got people bloated and fat. She might as well just close down every restaurant in Cambridge because they might also serve food that she does not approve. This nanny statehood is totally out of control. She should promote healthy eating and exercise in her public address as well as practices them. She could use some of the healthy eating and life style herself.
  • Bob S Fashion... 2012/06/19 16:58:11
    Bob S
    +2
    Maybe she has stock in some type of alcohol establishment and that will help fill her personal receipts.
  • Andy Fl... Bob S 2012/06/20 05:59:55
    Andy Fletcher
    +1
    No way man. Libs don't work like that. I mean, it ain't like John Kerry sells ketchup or anything.
  • Superman 2012/06/19 14:35:10
    Disapprove
    Superman
    +6
    I'll take the theory behind these bans seriously once city ordinances start requiring exercise.

    I don't like smoking bans, but I get it. Second hand smoke may harm people around you.

    Soda drinking does not. It harms you.

    And I'll bet Cambridge doesn't ban alcohol despite the more likely impact drunk driving can have on innocent civilians.
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾ 2012/06/19 14:04:29
    Disapprove
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    +7
    Ban Soda no While I do not Drink soda anymore as I am Aware of how Bad Soda is for you I would Rather see the city invest money to promote healthy eating and life style and Educational programs Rather than Ban Soda let people make the Decision for themselves to Drink soda or not Drink it
  • Charlie 2012/06/19 13:52:45
    Disapprove
    Charlie
    +4
    Maybe Henrietta would like me to tell her what she can eat and drink, but I'm sure she would have a problem with that.
  • Selkets... Charlie 2012/06/19 19:40:39
    Selketskiss
    +3
    Maybe we should walk right in her house and throw out what we feel should not be in her frig or cabinets..I wonder how she would feel then....
  • Sue 2012/06/19 13:27:49
    Disapprove
    Sue
    +5
    People should be free to make their own choice about what they will eat or drink.
  • Charles E 2012/06/19 13:15:39
    Disapprove
    Charles E
    +4
    Looks like Mayor Davis wants to close down most of the restaurants in Cambridge.

    Can we suggest thet the Mayor stop eating until she drops this stupid power grab.
  • Tony 2012/06/19 12:54:39
    Disapprove
    Tony
    +5
    Guess none of them want to be re-elected.
  • Andy Fl... Tony 2012/06/20 06:02:16
    Andy Fletcher
    +1
    It's Massechussets. They'll make her a senator or representative.

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