Cindy McCain stole drugs from her "charity" to feed her drug addiction. Do you think that she would make a good First Lady?

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Cindy McCain stole drugs from her "charity" to feed her drug addiction. Do you think that she would make a good First Lady?

by gabby Posted September 07, 2008 03:52:21

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+6 raves deano September 07, 2008 04:38:01

Answered: Yes
Yes she will make one of the best First Lady. You should look at the good she has done,its remarkable.
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Granny for Obama September 12, 2008 03:35:02

Answered: No
it takes someone who has followed an ethical life. There are many other Senator wives who have lead an ethical life - example: Michelle Obama
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Crank_It_Up September 07, 2008 21:51:37

Answered: Undecided
at least she didn't do anything that was really bad, like make a comment about our country's racism. That would be something we could never forgive her for, because we can't stand to be told we're not perfect, after all, we're white, what did you expect? Crime is ok, but criticism... get the rope.
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Rochelle to Crank_I... September 07, 2008 22:24:32 (edited)

Is this Brother Mohummed today or KKkeisha? YOu guys have a new look every half an hour.

bite me sybil
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JRenee~DTNS September 07, 2008 18:31:11

Answered: Yes
She's ALWAYS been proud of America. 'Nough said.
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gabby to JRenee~... September 07, 2008 18:47:50

I wonder why Cindy attacked Michelle? She's done some bad things.

And Michelle actually said: "For the first time, I am really proud of my country"

When you leave out the really - it changes the context completely.

Anyways - is that all you can find on Michelle? I thought so. At least she wasn't stealing drugs from a charity, etc. She has nothing like that whatsoever in her history - just a lot of really hard work to get where she is and helping people along the way.
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JRenee~... to gabby September 07, 2008 20:53:19

What's really sad is that you need any more than that.
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directo... to gabby September 07, 2008 21:47:56

moderated...
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greenwo... to directo... September 08, 2008 03:17:23

Is that from the Huffington Post? I know she's superwoman but with all those kids and the time consuming high posts she's had, that must have been a pretty low level affair. Not to mention that with the husband that she has and the fact that they actually spend free time together, and the small town they live in where everyone knows everyone else's business, it's unlikely she was running around. What are the Dems going to invent next?
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Flowerbomb September 07, 2008 14:08:47

Answered: Yes
If Michelle Obama or really any of you sheep had 1/100th of CIndy McCain's compassion, generosity and heart this world would be a remarkably better place.
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gabby to Flowerbomb September 07, 2008 18:49:51 (edited)

I devoted 18 years of my life volunteering for a Church and the good of mankind. I know I've done more than Cindy McCain.

And, I'm the one who wrote the question.
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Flowerbomb to gabby September 07, 2008 20:42:49

I applaud you for your efforts but I seriously doubt that. Have you ever researched CIndy McCain? Did you fund and run any non-profit organizations? Do you have a Master's in special education that has allowed you to teach mentally disabled children and participate in programs for them? Have you personally led missions all over the world in war torn, poverty stricken areas? Do you serve on the boards of HALO, CARE and Operation Smile? Do you make significant financial contributions to these or any charities? Have you adopted any children?
I have been involved in several charitable organizations since before I was an adult, I donate my time and money and am humbled by Cindy McCains generosity and dedication. Working with the less fortunate is great in that one of the many things you learn is humility, to claim that you have done more than someone else shows a complete lack of humility.
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greenwo... to Flowerbomb September 08, 2008 03:18:43

I regret that I have but one rave to give to your post.
gabby to Flowerbomb September 10, 2008 01:56:10

Yes - I'm bold - because I don't have a criminal record and have not stolen drugs from a Charity.
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Flowerbomb to gabby September 10, 2008 02:13:42

That's not being bold it is being arrogant. I find it interesting that you say you have worked with a church for 18 years. Does your church condone passing judgement on people and not teach forgiveness? I guess you have never gone over the speed limit or taken a pen home from work since you are so perfect.
I have no criminal record nor have I ever stolen drugs, yet I am not perfect. I am more than willing to applaud someone who has made mistakes, owned up to them and moved beyond it. That too is charity. You may think whatever you want but you have not done more than Cindy McCain, you will be hard pressed to find many people who have.
gabby to Flowerbomb September 10, 2008 03:21:00

You can call me arrogant, belittle and attack my 18 years of full time work with my Church, and now attack my Church (and yes, I have made substantial monetary contributions too) and accuse me of not being forgiving. You get the big "W" - hoh-hum-yawn.

As a citizen, she would be considered a decent citizen with a past.

It's not a matter of forgiveness, it's a matter of whether these people (John McCain and Cindy McCain) are fit to run the country/being in a high position that affects us all.

Someone who committed a federal crime and adultry is not someone who is fit. The average citizen who commits a federal crime is not even allowed to VOTE! (for the rest of their lives)
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Flowerbomb to gabby September 10, 2008 04:27:57

But someone who has admitted to using illegal drugs and someone who has had 2 abortions...people who have frieindships with racists, theives and terrorists are fit?
CC to gabby October 09, 2008 13:17:11

You are a church goer of 18 years and you are voting for a man who supports partial birth abortion(murder), and homosexual marriage. I find that very strange, I used to be Democrat, because my family is mostly Democrats but after I became a Christian and Bill Clinton supported Partial Birth Abortion I had to take a hard look at my party and that's when I became a Republican. No Republican's aren't perfect but at least they don't support Murder and homosexuality!! Your political views as a Christian if you are one(not judging just can't tell by your actions) should not come in front of the things of God- "Seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and then all these things shall be added unto you" Do you think that God wants baby's to be killed?? I think there is a commandment " Thou shall not kill"
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heart... Restore The Republic September 07, 2008 05:54:05 (edited)

Answered: Yes
Absolutely. Better a recovered addict that works to help the less fortunate and save lives than an uncharitable, angry, bitter racist that chooses to see bad over good and helps no one less fortunate.
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Rochelle to heart..... September 07, 2008 21:51:16

keep it movin, heart.. I love it!
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Crank_I... to heart..... September 07, 2008 21:57:43

agreed, the nerve of black people to be upset with us when the only thing we did to them was slavery, torture, murder, lynching, theft, segragation, etc., etc.,

How dare they be so bold as to actually say anything negative about the great white race. Pointy hats and closed minds forever... hurray!
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Rochelle to Crank_I... September 07, 2008 22:16:50 (edited)

oooh look a blast from the past. So what have you done for society Mr. crank it up? Hmm?
heart..... to Rochelle September 08, 2008 05:57:01

And of course he avoided the first half of the comment about the good that Cindy McCain selflessly does for others compared to Michelle's (angry or not) record of ... none.
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Rochelle to Crank_I... September 07, 2008 22:23:00

No answer.. that's what I thought. zippity do da

Sit around and complain, and point fingers.

I'll ask again. What have you done for the human race .. anything you'd like to mention other than point fingers?
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greenwo... to Crank_I... September 08, 2008 03:21:36

It's sad to be so self-hating. Better to be a black who is proud of his race than a white who hates his race.
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heart..... to Crank_I... September 08, 2008 05:55:14

If racial anger is Michelle Obama's primary focus about what goes on in this country then she is indeed a sad and angry person.

Sorry to disappoint you but race is not the sole issue in this country or the primary concern for most people. Many people in America, of any ethnic background, have gotten past the historical 'chains' that held their ancestors and have made their own way in the world... without the need to hate people that are simply NOT responsible.
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TexanInHawaii September 07, 2008 05:07:03 (edited)

Answered: Yes
Most excellent First Lady! Can't wait!

~~Edit~~After reading the posts here, I just want to know one thing. How many of you are there, and how difficult is it to switch back and forth between personalities? Just wondering...
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gabby to TexanIn... September 07, 2008 05:26:02

Wow - is that what you do?
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heart..... to TexanIn... September 07, 2008 05:56:48

I don't know but they seem to manage pretty well!
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TexanIn... to heart..... September 07, 2008 06:55:51
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deano September 07, 2008 04:38:01

Answered: Yes
Yes she will make one of the best First Lady. You should look at the good she has done,its remarkable.
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Raina September 07, 2008 04:29:08

Answered: No
I think it is pretty disgusting, stealing from a children's charity that provided medication to underpriviledged children. I'm sorry, but you just can't justify that.
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greenwo... to Raina September 07, 2008 16:10:03 (edited)

If you've never had an addiction to drugs, you can't judge. You just want a cheap shot at Cindy. I've never been addicted to anything, but I do occasionally have a drop in blood sugar and when it's down to about 40, I would tramp over my grandmother to get to the refrigerator and get something sweet., and I imagine the craving for drugs is much worse. I don't defend recreational drug addicts and don't care what happens to them, but it's easy to get addicted by taking pain meds, which is not the patient's fault. By the time they realize what's happening, they're hooked.
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Raina to greenwo... September 07, 2008 22:22:58

Same goes to you, if you've never been addicted then you don't have anything to say. And I can't say much about you and your character if you'd run over your grandma for something to eat. There is no difference between a recreational drug addict and prescription pill addict, an addict is an addict. You repubs will do anything to do defend Cindy McCain's behavior that is indefensible. By the way, I know more about this than you think.
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greenwo... to Raina September 08, 2008 03:23:41

Addiction causes a physical need to be met to ensure survival.
So does low blood sugar which is nearly at coma level. The latter is a momentary thing until you get some sugar, while addiction is on going, but for the moment the drive is the same. So I do have some understanding of addictive craving. I don't have any idea how much you know about this -- are you a drug addict?

The end result is the same, but I do not hold legal addicts who got hooked unknowingly to be in the same pot as those who, like your Savior, do it deliberately for the thrill of it. One is responsible for their addiction, the other got there unknowingly. A big difference.
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Raina to greenwo... September 08, 2008 03:44:13

Legal addict? Are you insane? She misused them and stole them, lied about it and tried to cover it up, that is illegal. It is a controlled and prescribed substance. Obviously you are a republican and you will spin this anyway that benefits you, even when you have no idea what you are talking about. I am moving on. Buh Bye!
greenwo... to Raina September 08, 2008 14:03:05 (edited)

Are you obtuse or what? Of course stealing is illegal, duh! The addiction caused this behavior so she was innocent on that part of the problem. Once you're addicted you're not able to control your behavior when you need a fix; you should know that.
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Raina to greenwo... September 08, 2008 14:26:09

Wow, the drug addicts in prison for committing crimes should really give that one a try.
greenwo... to Raina September 09, 2008 01:00:51

The first fix someone takes KNOWINGLY makes them responsible for anything they do in the future.
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heart..... to Raina September 08, 2008 06:13:18

You say you know "more about this than you think". I won't ask you if you are but... I *am* an addict and I can say you are wrong and go one more. There is a big difference between a recreational user, an active addict and a * recovering addict *. HUGE difference.

I cannot of course speak for her but, personally, I'm a much better person *after* addiction and beginning recovery than I ever was before I was an addict. And, because she is reported to still be 'working a program', it's likely the same for her. I believe she has MORE than made amends and continues to do so.

What have you selflessly done for others lately? Have you realized and acknowledged gratitude today? Have you made honest amends for those you have harmed?

Not attacking you personally but those are things recovering addicts do... some daily. We have to, we are addicts and those things are the difference between life and death... literally.

1. We admitted that we were powerless over our addiction, that our lives had become unmanageable.

2. We came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.

3. We made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.

4. We made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.

5. We admitted to God, to oursel...

You say you know "more about this than you think". I won't ask you if you are but... I *am* an addict and I can say you are wrong and go one more. There is a big difference between a recreational user, an active addict and a *recovering addict*. HUGE difference.

I cannot of course speak for her but, personally, I'm a much better person *after* addiction and beginning recovery than I ever was before I was an addict. And, because she is reported to still be 'working a program', it's likely the same for her. I believe she has MORE than made amends and continues to do so.

What have you selflessly done for others lately? Have you realized and acknowledged gratitude today? Have you made honest amends for those you have harmed?

Not attacking you personally but those are things recovering addicts do... some daily. We have to, we are addicts and those things are the difference between life and death... literally.

1. We admitted that we were powerless over our addiction, that our lives had become unmanageable.

2. We came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.

3. We made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.

4. We made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.

5. We admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.

6. We were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.

7. We humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.

8. We made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.

9. We made direct amends to such people wherever possible except when to do so would injure them or others.

10. We continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.

11. We sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.

12. Having had a spiritual awakening as a result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to addicts, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
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Raina to heart..... September 08, 2008 13:08:22

We are not talking about you, we are talking about Cindy McCain possible first lady. Green was making reference to the fact because the drugs were legal that she was a legal addict. I understand the difference between a person who is a recreational user, a social drinker and a person who is addicted. Cindy is a self admitted addict, she went to treatment and supposedly na. Therefore she is an addict regardless of whether the meds were legal or not. Cocaine was legal at one time too. That is not what the other person was saying. I am happy for you that you are in a better place in your life today. I can relate to that.
Good luck to you in your recovery. God Bless you one day at a time.