
Christians can be ordered to violate beliefs
A ruling from Judge Tim L. Garcia in the New Mexico Court of Appeals says states can require Christians to violate their faith in order to do business, affirming a penalty of nearly $7,000 for a photographer who refused to take pictures at a lesbian “commitment” ceremony in the state where same-sex “marriage” was illegal.
Judge’s Cynthia Fry and James Wechsler joined in the ruling by Garcia, which involved Elane Photography, whose owners, Elaine and Jonathan Huegeunin, are Christians and declined to do photography for lesbians Vanessa Willock and another woman.
The women complained under the state’s anti-discrimination requirements and a state commission, the New Mexico Human Rights Commission, imposed the penalty, which now has been affirmed by the appeals court judges. The judges explained in the 45-page ruling that the photography company is a “public accommodation” and those cannot discriminate under state law based on “sexual orientation.”
“The owners of Elane Photography must accept the reasonable regulations and restrictions imposed upon the conduct of their commercial enterprise despite their personal religious beliefs that may conflict with these governmental interests,” the judges wrote.
Officials with the Alliance Defense Fund, which has been representing Elane, said there would be an appeal.
“Americans in the marketplace should not be subjected to legal attacks for simply abiding by their beliefs,” said ADF Senior Counsel Jordan Lorence. “Should the government force a videographer who is an animal rights activist to create a video promoting hunting and taxidermy? Of course not, and neither should the government force this photographer to promote a message that violates her conscience. Because the Constitution prohibits the state from forcing unwilling artists to promote a message they disagree with, we will certainly appeal this decision to the New Mexico Supreme Court.”
It started in 2006 when Willock asked Elaine Huguenin to take pictures at her “commitment” ceremony. It was in 2009 when the ADF appealed a trial judge’s ruling in favor of the lesbians.
In reaching their decision the judges aligned photography with those that are “an essential service” under state law.
“Services, facilities and accommodations are available to the general public through a variety of resources. Elane Photography takes advantage of these available resources to market to the public at large and invite them to solicit services offered by its photography business,” the judges explained.
They cited the idea of a KKK rally asking an black photographer to supply his work, and the photographer refusing. Could then the KKK cite racial discrimination?
“The Ku Klux Klan is not a protected class,” opined the judges. “Sexual orientation, however, is protected.”
The judges continued, “The act of photographing a same-sex ceremony does not express any opinions regarding same-sex commitments, or disseminate a personal message about such ceremonies.”
They called the state requirement “a neutral regulation of commercial conduct” and said that it does not “infringe upon freedom of speech or compel unwanted expression.”
The judges wrote that the photography company’s claim of protection under the state constitution’s requirement that “no person shall ever be molested or denied any civil or political right or privilege on account of his religious opinion” was not applicable.
The judges suggested the interesting scenario of the photographer accepting the job, and vocally condemning the women while taking pictures.
“The owners are free to express their religious beliefs and tell Willock or anyone else what they think about same-sex relationships and same-sex ceremonies,” they said.
The district court decision had come from Alan M. Malott.
Malott’s ruling said the Christian owners were compelled to photograph the ceremony for Vanessa Willock and Misty Pascottini because of the state’s interest in preventing discrimination based on sexual orientation.
“Once one offers a service publicly, they must do so without impermissible exception,” the judge wrote. “Therefore, plaintiff could refuse to photograph animals or even small children, just as an architect could design only commercial buildings and not private residences. Neither animals, nor small children, nor private residences are protected classes,” he wrote.
When the district judge’s decision arrived, it seemed to substantiate the concerns of opponents of a federal “hate crimes” bill signed into law by President Obama during his first year in office that gives homosexuals special rights. Attorney General Eric Holder admitted in a congressional hearing that under the measure an attack on a homosexual would be dealt with differently than one on another citizen.
Benjamin Bull, chief counsel for the Alliance Defense Fund, noted at that time, “Homosexuals got exactly what they wanted. In the marketplace of ideas, one side has now been censored. This [situation] is exactly what homosexual activists have in mind.”
Interestingly, a subsequent poll revealed that almost half of Americans believe that Christians in the United States are being persecuted by homosexual “marriage” advocates who take legal action against them over their religious beliefs, and almost one in three Democrats believes such persecution is “necessary,” according to the alarming results of a new poll
The results are from a WND/WENZEL Poll conducted for WND by the public-opinion research and media consulting company Wenzel Strategies.
It found that 49.2 percent of all respondents consider the legal activism against Christians and their beliefs regarding homosexuality to be “persecution.”
The question was, “There is a trend developing in which gay activists are filing lawsuits against people who refuse to do business with them on moral/religious grounds – such as when a New Mexico photographer was sued by a lesbian couple for refusing to photograph their wedding. Knowing this, which of the following statements most closely represents what you think about this?”
More than two of three Republicans called it “persecution of Christians,” along with 45 percent of independents. Even 33.1 percent of Democrats had he same answer.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/refuse-to-photograph-lesbians-get-...
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Barefooted Nana ∞ijm♥∞AFCL 2012/06/05 06:44:39+12Well I know this doesn't look very Christian of me but right now this is my answer to him because it is my GOD given right NOT man! (ps...I cleaned it up a LOT)























A question: why is it that Islamic Cabbies up north (I believe it was in Wisconsin or something) were ruled in favor of refusing service... a VERY NECESSARY SERVICE ACTUALLY to anyone who violated their religious practices, IE women who aren't covered, animals, etc. I think that situation should be brought up in the appeals. If it's okay for one religion is HAS to be okay for all.
There was a Supreme Court case in which the Court held that states could criminalize the use of peyote by Native Americans in their religious rituals. Clearly, the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment does not give people carte blanche to violate laws that their "faith" tells them are wrong.
"All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin."
The business address for Elane Photography is a private residence, so Elane Photography is NOT a "place of public accommodation" like a restaurant, lunch counter, inn, hotel or other walk-in business where they HAVE to serve everyone. She can pick and choose her customers for ANY reason.
Whereas 2000a is always referenced in refusal of service cases:
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com...
http://www.clearinghouse.net/...
http://bulk.resource.org/cour...
http://www.legalzoom.com/us-l...
In fact, the decision in this case we're discussing (Willock v. Elane Photography) SPECIFICALLY references 2000a ...not 1981. Search for it yourself.
http://volokh.com/files/willo...
From Morris v. Office Max, Inc. (7th Cir.)
I'm a civil rights lawyer and I know whereof I speak.
In this case, although Morris and Nailor say that the case should be remanded for trial, thus implicitly arguing that there are disputed issues of material fact precluding the grant of summary judgment, their real argument is about, as they phrase it, “whether there is a federal remedy under either 42 U.S.C. Section 1981 or 42 U.S.C. Section 1982 when a store summons the police to ‘check out’ patrons simply because the patrons are African-American․” Specifically, they claim on appeal that the district court erred in granting summary judgment because (1) §§ 1981 and 1982 provide federal remedies for patrons who have been discriminated against on the basis of race while making a prospective purchase in a retail setting, and (2) a triable issue exists whether Office Max's actions deprived them of their property interest in prospective contractual relations.
Section 1981 addresses racial discrimination in contractual relationships. As amended by the Civil Rights Act of 1991, the statute reads in relevant part:
(a) All persons within the jurisdiction of the United States shall have the same right in every State and Territory to make and enforce contracts ․ a...
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From Morris v. Office Max, Inc. (7th Cir.)
I'm a civil rights lawyer and I know whereof I speak.
In this case, although Morris and Nailor say that the case should be remanded for trial, thus implicitly arguing that there are disputed issues of material fact precluding the grant of summary judgment, their real argument is about, as they phrase it, “whether there is a federal remedy under either 42 U.S.C. Section 1981 or 42 U.S.C. Section 1982 when a store summons the police to ‘check out’ patrons simply because the patrons are African-American․” Specifically, they claim on appeal that the district court erred in granting summary judgment because (1) §§ 1981 and 1982 provide federal remedies for patrons who have been discriminated against on the basis of race while making a prospective purchase in a retail setting, and (2) a triable issue exists whether Office Max's actions deprived them of their property interest in prospective contractual relations.
Section 1981 addresses racial discrimination in contractual relationships. As amended by the Civil Rights Act of 1991, the statute reads in relevant part:
(a) All persons within the jurisdiction of the United States shall have the same right in every State and Territory to make and enforce contracts ․ as is enjoyed by white citizens․
(b) For purposes of this section, the term “make and enforce contracts” includes the making, performance, modification, and termination of contracts, and the enjoyment of all benefits, privileges, terms, and conditions of the contractual relationship.
(c) The rights protected by this section are protected against impairment by nongovernmental discrimination and impairment under color of State law.
42 U.S.C. § 1981(a)-(c).
Litigation involving § 1981 most commonly involves the right to make and enforce contracts of employment. Rivers v. Roadway Express, Inc., 511 U.S. 298, 114 S.Ct. 1510, 128 L.Ed.2d 274 (1994). Claims involving retail transactions have been infrequent. Patrons have, however, brought suits under § 1981 for refusal of service, see Washington v. Duty Free Shoppers, Ltd., 710 F.Supp. 1288 (N.D.Cal.1988); Shen v. A & P Food Stores, No. 93 CV 1184(FB), 1995 WL 728416 (E.D.N.Y. Nov. 21, 1995); for removal from the store, Flowers v. The TJX Companies, No. 91-CV-1339, 1994 WL 382515 (N.D.N.Y. July 15, 1994); and for a store practice of recording the race of all customers paying by check, Roberts v. Walmart Stores, Inc., 769 F.Supp. 1086 (E.D.Mo.1991).
"Patrons have, however, brought suits under § 1981 for refusal of service, see Washington v. Duty Free Shoppers, Ltd., 710 F.Supp. 1288 (N.D.Cal.1988); Shen v. A & P Food Stores, No. 93 CV 1184(FB), 1995 WL 728416 (E.D.N.Y. Nov. 21, 1995)"
"Litigation involving § 1981 most commonly involves the right to make and enforce contracts of employment"
... and wondering if you had taken the time read the Willock v. Elane Photography decision that clearly references 2000a.
http://volokh.com/files/willo...
When all the small businesses that are being taken advantage of like this start to refuse to pay taxes maybe the gov will understand that we are NOT OK with this crap!!!
If they ever attempt to do so, they will have one hell of a fight on their hands.
I guess they could have gone ahead and them had all the cameras "malfunction". No lawsuit there right?
It seems like all this does is promote DIShonesty. It will go from sorry, we don't choose to take this job to sorry, but we are closed that day.
As for constituional rights, the rights were actually written as protections from governmental abuse of authority. The Bill of Rights actually define what the government may not do, not what the people may do. When we lose the right to say no, for any reason, we are no different than slaves.
this is a cockamamie decision.
In actuality.. The COnstitution makes NO mention of the Church.. The First Amendment protects the individual's right to Religious Freedom and the Church,, made UP of such individuals,, gains that protection by defualt because that CHurch is made up of individuals that fall under those protections..
The POINT that I am making and I feel that it HAS to be made is that Obama's Mandate is trying to isolate the protections of the actual Church,, which they concede IS protected,, from the indivuduals that make UP that church which THEY bsay doesn't fall under COnstitutional Protection.. The Church can refuse to obey the mandate.. An Individual Christian in business for him/herself cannot.. THIS,, as is almost ALWAYS the case with religion and the COnstitution,, is EXACTLY backwards from what the COnstitution actually says..
When one considers that the PRIMARY function of the COnstitution is to protect the American Citizen from the DICTATES of their OWN Government with regard to the enumerated rights,, the reasoning behind the opinion ; "accept the reasonable regulations and restrictions imposed upon the conduct of their commercial enterprise despite their personal re...
In actuality.. The COnstitution makes NO mention of the Church.. The First Amendment protects the individual's right to Religious Freedom and the Church,, made UP of such individuals,, gains that protection by defualt because that CHurch is made up of individuals that fall under those protections..
The POINT that I am making and I feel that it HAS to be made is that Obama's Mandate is trying to isolate the protections of the actual Church,, which they concede IS protected,, from the indivuduals that make UP that church which THEY bsay doesn't fall under COnstitutional Protection.. The Church can refuse to obey the mandate.. An Individual Christian in business for him/herself cannot.. THIS,, as is almost ALWAYS the case with religion and the COnstitution,, is EXACTLY backwards from what the COnstitution actually says..
When one considers that the PRIMARY function of the COnstitution is to protect the American Citizen from the DICTATES of their OWN Government with regard to the enumerated rights,, the reasoning behind the opinion ; "accept the reasonable regulations and restrictions imposed upon the conduct of their commercial enterprise despite their personal religious beliefs that may conflict with these governmental interests ",,,
Governmental Interests is PRECISELY what the COnstitution was meant to protect the American Citizen FROM..
The left LOVES to HOWL over the very IDEA that there is a WAR against Christianity going on in this country and they are right.. This ISN'T just a WAR on Christianity.. it's a war on the Constitution..