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Chief Justice Roberts: “It Is Not Our Job to Protect the People From the Consequences of Their Political Choices”

texasred 2012/06/28 17:11:03
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He's got a point. Unfortunately, all of the American people pay the price for the idiots that voted for Obama and may vote for him again.
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  • texasred 2012/06/28 17:12:16
    Justice Roberts is right.
    texasred
    +20
    It's time for true Americans to get up and vote Obama out this November.

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  • Plantgypc texasred 2012/06/29 01:45:14
    Plantgypc
    +3
    More young people are seeing the light.
  • Builder Plantgypc 2012/06/29 03:41:01
    Builder
    which light would that be?
  • stormy rae Builder 2012/06/29 03:51:40
    stormy rae
    +2
    the light referring to our constitution and what it stands for, and understand that obama is commie marxist socialist bastard and wants to be king of the world, they see the corruption and have an in depth understanding of the processes behind closed doors, perhaps the subliminal messages got to them but they shut it off
  • texasred stormy rae 2012/06/29 07:08:54
    texasred
    I blocked him. He just came on to show people what an arse he can be.
  • Plantgypc stormy rae 2012/06/29 12:31:05
    Plantgypc
    Thank I couldn't have said it better.
  • Plantgypc Builder 2012/06/29 12:30:38
    Plantgypc
    The right light.
  • Ozzyboy 2012/06/29 01:26:26
    Justice Roberts is wrong.
    Ozzyboy
    +6
    The question was on the constitutionality of government mandates under the commerce clause. He said the answer was that it was not constitutional. That should have been the end of it but Roberts goes on to give them an out by saying that it was legal as a tax. I've never heard of a judge switching the question to suit his beliefs. That is just wrong.
  • texasred Ozzyboy 2012/06/29 01:43:52
    texasred
    +3
    I don't disagree with that. I'm just hoping he's trying to spur us to get this POS out of the office of POTUS.
  • Ozzyboy texasred 2012/06/29 01:50:27
    Ozzyboy
    +3
    I've heard that theory and can only hope it will galvanize the people to "change" this administration.
  • texasred Ozzyboy 2012/06/29 07:09:24
    texasred
    Me, too, Ozzyboy. Me, too.
  • TheR 2012/06/29 01:24:34 (edited)
    Justice Roberts is wrong.
    TheR
    +3
    Roberts states it is not our job to Protect the People from the Consequences of their Political choices. Then what was that all about, when they selected Bush in 2000? And I know Roberts was not on the Bench then, but appointed by Bush.

    If I don't agree with spending on the Military, should I be taxed more? No.

    It is the same argument.

    The Government Spends endlessly for the Military, and we are all forced to pay in taxes, just what difference is it, when it comes to healthcare?

    Now if they made the Military our Healthcare Operative Choice, maybe there is sign of healing the scars.

    They should combine the Military Budget with Healthcare.

    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...
  • texasred TheR 2012/06/29 05:35:23
    texasred
    +1
    I understand.
  • lclon 2012/06/29 01:09:18
    Justice Roberts is right.
    lclon
    +3
    Roberts is a conservative who most likelydispise President Obama. At least he did the right thing this time.
  • Builder lclon 2012/06/29 03:41:30
    Builder
    +1
    I agree!
  • texasred lclon 2012/06/29 05:37:05
    texasred
    Really? While I might have a tendency to agree with what he's done... on very simplistic principles, what he has done is set a precedent for the government to tax us for something we DO NOT purchase. That seems strange to me.
  • lclon texasred 2012/07/02 22:27:22
    lclon
    Where do see in the bill that you will be taxed for it.
  • texasred lclon 2012/07/02 23:55:15 (edited)
    texasred
    Where have you been the last week? Or is it that age old liberal position



    that causes you ask that question?

    Supreme Court upholds Obamacare individual mandate as a tax
    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/t...

    "But if it was a tax, then it actually gave people a choice: Pay a small tax, or buy health insurance. And if you actually read the bill, that's exactly what the law said. The mandate was directed at "taxpayer[s]". Every taxpayer not otherwise exempted had to indicate on their tax return if they had health insurance, and if they didn't, they had to pay a small penalty."
    http://articles.cnn.com/2012-...

    "U.S. Solicitor General Donald Verrilli used the phrase “tax penalty” multiple times to describe the individual mandate’s backstop. He portrayed the fee as a penalty by design, but one that functions as a tax because it’s collected through the tax code."
    http://nation.foxnews.com/oba...

    Edited to fix the graphic that did not show up the first time.
    Where have you been the last week? Or is it that age old liberal position

    liberal head up butt

    that causes you ask that question?

    Supreme Court upholds Obamacare individual mandate as a tax
    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/t...

    "But if it was a tax, then it actually gave people a choice: Pay a small tax, or buy health insurance. And if you actually read the bill, that's exactly what the law said. The mandate was directed at "taxpayer[s]". Every taxpayer not otherwise exempted had to indicate on their tax return if they had health insurance, and if they didn't, they had to pay a small penalty."
    http://articles.cnn.com/2012-...

    "U.S. Solicitor General Donald Verrilli used the phrase “tax penalty” multiple times to describe the individual mandate’s backstop. He portrayed the fee as a penalty by design, but one that functions as a tax because it’s collected through the tax code."
    http://nation.foxnews.com/oba...

    Edited to fix the graphic that did not show up the first time.
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  • lclon texasred 2012/07/03 00:54:56
    lclon
    The only tax is a penaly tax that people most wealthy people will pay because they don't want insurance. You should pay a penalty tax if you don't get insurance. Government shouldn't be paying for the wealthy if they don't have insurance. Conservatives are going around lying saying that everyone will be paying higher taxes just to upbeat their conservative base hoping their conservatives and others will believe them. People other than conservatives know that all Romney does is lie, lie, lie, flip flop, flip flop, flip flop. When he was Gov. of Mass. he had basically the same health care plan that President Obama created. They used the same man to help write up the Plan. Romney is going around lying like crazy. Who would want a lying President like Romney. I know. Only the conservatives because they believe in lies. Lies are truths to them and truths are lies to them. They specializes in lying.
  • texasred lclon 2012/07/03 12:56:06
    texasred
    Flexible Spending Account contributions will be capped at $2,500. Currently, there is no tax-related limit on how much you can set aside pre-tax to pay for medical expenses. Next year, there will be. If you have been socking away, say, $10,000 in your FSA to pay medical bills, you'll have to cut that to $2,500.

    The itemized-deduction hurdle for medical expenses is going up to $10,000. Right now, any medical expenses over $7,500 per year are deductible. Next year, that hurdle will be $10,000.

    The penalty on non-medical withdrawals from Healthcare Savings Accounts is now 20% instead of 10%. That's twice the penalty that applies to annuities, IRAs, and other tax-free vehicles.

    A tax of 10% on indoor tanning services. This has been in place for two years, since the summer of 2010.

    A 40% tax on "Cadillac Health Care Plans" starting in 2018.Those whose employers pay for all or most of comprehensive healthcare plans (costing $10,200 for an individual or $27,500 for families) will have to pay a 40% tax on the amount their employer pays. The 2018 start date is said to have been a gift to unions, which often have comprehensive plans.

    A"Medicine Cabinet Tax" that eliminates the ability to pay for over-the-counter medicines from a pre-tax Flexible Spending Account. This started in January 2...


























    Flexible Spending Account contributions will be capped at $2,500. Currently, there is no tax-related limit on how much you can set aside pre-tax to pay for medical expenses. Next year, there will be. If you have been socking away, say, $10,000 in your FSA to pay medical bills, you'll have to cut that to $2,500.

    The itemized-deduction hurdle for medical expenses is going up to $10,000. Right now, any medical expenses over $7,500 per year are deductible. Next year, that hurdle will be $10,000.

    The penalty on non-medical withdrawals from Healthcare Savings Accounts is now 20% instead of 10%. That's twice the penalty that applies to annuities, IRAs, and other tax-free vehicles.

    A tax of 10% on indoor tanning services. This has been in place for two years, since the summer of 2010.

    A 40% tax on "Cadillac Health Care Plans" starting in 2018.Those whose employers pay for all or most of comprehensive healthcare plans (costing $10,200 for an individual or $27,500 for families) will have to pay a 40% tax on the amount their employer pays. The 2018 start date is said to have been a gift to unions, which often have comprehensive plans.

    A"Medicine Cabinet Tax" that eliminates the ability to pay for over-the-counter medicines from a pre-tax Flexible Spending Account. This started in January 2011.

    A "penalty" tax for those who don't buy health insurance. This will phase in from 2014-2016. It will range from $695 per person to about $4,700 per person, depending on your income.

    A tax on medical devices costing more than $100. Starting in 2013, medical device manufacturers will have to pay a 2.3% excise tax on medical equipment. This is expected to raise the cost of medical procedures.
    http://finance.yahoo.com/blog...

    All of the above impact the Middle Class.

    And talk about lying:

    Obama promised to prevent drug companies from blocking generic drugs.

    Obama promised he would shutdown Guantanamo Bay.

    Obama promised not to raise any taxes.

    Obama promised to restrict the influence of lobbyists.

    Obama promised to make employers automatically enroll employees in 401(k) and IRA investments.

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.co...

    The above are just a few of the many Obama lies.

    Facts, sweetie. all of the above are not lies; they're facts.

    Who would want a lying President like Obama. I know. Only the liberals... because they believe in lies. Lies are truths to them and truths are lies to them. They specialize in lying.
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  • lclon texasred 2012/07/04 02:56:23
    lclon
    You are not God. You don't know the future. All your figuring is nothing more than scare tatics and probably lies.
  • texasred lclon 2012/07/04 23:13:03
    texasred
    Of course I'm not God. But you seem to forget, what I posted above are facts... not lies. Hope you're having a great Independence Day. I'm trying to... since I don't know how many more we'll be able to enjoy under this far left administration.
  • lclon texasred 2012/07/09 22:23:17
    lclon
    You are a conservative and you think what you write is truth. I think what you wrote are lies. Conservative and Liberals are like compassion and Selfishness.
  • texasred lclon 2012/07/09 22:38:26
    texasred
    I am a Conservative and what I provided are facts... with links. Your problem is you don't think... you don't research. All you do is listen to liberal talking points and swallow them hook, line and sinker. Conservatives and Liberals are like intelligent and stupid, respectively.
  • lclon texasred 2012/07/18 01:17:00
    lclon
    You darn right. I follow liberal principals and am proud of doing so. I will never follow conservatives lies. Just keep on following your lying conservatives. That is all you can do.
  • texasred lclon 2012/07/18 04:26:14
    texasred
    Like I said... I provided facts, with links. So you just keep on believing the lies of your liberal buddies... pitiful.
  • lclon texasred 2012/07/25 00:47:31
    lclon
    I will keep on believing the truth of the liberals and will keep on believing that conservatives specialize in lying.
  • texasred lclon 2012/07/27 20:54:36
    texasred
    That doesn't surprise me. Indoctrination is alive and well in the Democrat party.
  • lclon texasred 2012/07/31 01:47:42
    lclon
    I rather be indoctrinated about common sense rather than
    about lying.
  • texasred lclon 2012/08/01 00:20:03
    texasred
    See? You've actually been indoctrinated to believe it's common sense.
  • lclon texasred 2012/08/03 00:50:47
    lclon
    It is common sense. Anything I believe in is common sense.
  • texasred lclon 2012/08/04 02:00:31
    texasred
    Yep.... totally indoctrinated.
  • lclon texasred 2012/08/06 02:17:51
    lclon
    No matter what you call it. It won't affect my believing in common sense.
  • texasred lclon 2012/08/06 13:50:35
    texasred
    I'm sure you believe you believe in common sense. Unfortunately believing that you believe in something doesn't make it fact.
  • lclon texasred 2012/08/10 23:21:34
    lclon
    Only in your eyes.
  • texasred lclon 2012/08/13 22:04:19
    texasred
    In just about everyone's eyes.
  • lclon texasred 2012/08/16 22:39:39
    lclon
    Yours and your conservative buddies eyes
  • texasred lclon 2012/08/17 04:10:44
    texasred
    In just about everyone's eyes.
  • lclon texasred 2012/08/20 00:53:10
    lclon
    Only conservatives
  • texasred lclon 2012/08/20 15:59:15
    texasred
    So you believe just about everyone is a Conservative. Hmmmm.
  • lclon texasred 2012/08/21 01:08:40
    lclon
    Every lie told is from a conservative.

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