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Chick-Fil-A Says It Plans to Stop Giving Donations to Anti-Gay Groups: Beautiful or Being Bullied?

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Chick-Fil-A dealt with a storm of bad press a short while ago because of a statement by Dan Cathy, the president of the fast-food chain, saying he was "guilty as charged" when asked about his opposition to gay marriage. His comments, along with Chick-Fil-A's monetary donations to anti-gay organizations, led to a media frenzy.

But times have changed. Now, a Chick-Fil-A executive has confirmed that the chicken-loving, fast-food chain will stop donating to such anti-gay groups like Focus on the Family and the Family Research Council, according to The Civil Rights Agenda. Do you think this news is a great step for the fast-food company? Or do you feel that Chick-Fil-A was bullied into making this decision?

NYDAILYNEWS.COM reports:
Chick-Fil-A had plenty of support for its anti-gay-marriage stance, but in the end, the restaurant chain chickened out.
nydailynews reports chick-fil-a plenty support anti-gay-marriage stance restaurant chain chickened

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  • Kigan william... 2012/09/20 22:46:22 (edited)
    Kigan
    I'm not asserting all - in fact, I specifically used the word "some" in my reply. How you got "all" from that I'm not quite certain.

    Moot point? Not hardly.
  • william... Kigan 2012/09/20 22:56:12
    william.turner
    You are confusing the statements. Or not reading.
  • Kigan william... 2012/09/20 23:12:40
    Kigan
    Really now? You made inferences based on ignoring a key word and now you are accusing me of confusing statements or not reading?

    I said: There is a difference between opinion and donating money - some of which came from gay people and was earned by gay employees - to groups opposed to gay rights, determined to stop them and strip away any already available.

    You said: So you are asserting that all money donated to push the GLBT movement came only from gays? Or did some of it come from non gays who oppose gay marriage? The later is true here and makes your point moot.

    Side by side, unaltered. I said some of the money came from gay people and earned by gay employees as a point of catalyst for people taking action. You added the rest yourself.
  • william... Kigan 2012/09/21 00:00:16
    william.turner
    And if you saw the "?" you know that I was asking you a question.
  • Kigan william... 2012/09/21 00:17:52
    Kigan
    You declared the point moot. That indicates the question has no point.

    The question itself is unnecessary in any case.
  • Ev Rom william... 2012/09/20 22:15:40
  • william... Ev Rom 2012/09/20 22:22:54
    william.turner
    No, they gave money to groups that support one man-one woman marriage. They attacked noone. It is the same thing as you giving money to GLBT groups.
  • Ev Rom william... 2012/09/20 23:00:07
    Ev Rom
    Why not give money to fund segregation and non interracial marriage? Conservatives used the bible to condone both of those things in the past and back in those days they used your same argument.
  • william... Ev Rom 2012/09/21 00:01:31
    william.turner
    Well actually it was southern democrats that pushed slavery and segregation. And again, if you want to fund those things then so be it. Who are we to not allow it?
  • Ev Rom william... 2012/09/21 00:09:45
    Ev Rom
    What used to be democrats is now conservatives, I doubt you will ever see many minorities trying to join the KKK. Liberals weren't the ones saying the bible teaches segregation and that the bible is against interracial marriage.

    Are you ok with segregation and calling for making interracial marriage illegal? Do you expect that if the owner of the chicken place came out in favor of those two things that blacks and minorities are gonna buy his samiches? LOL
  • william... Ev Rom 2012/09/21 00:20:03
    william.turner
    "What used to be democrats is now conservatives" That is not true but another discussion for a later time maybe?

    No I am not okay with segregation and making interracial marriage illegal. And if a business decided to fund this agenda, I would boycott them. But I would still support their right to fund it.

    And again for the last time to all of you anti chick-fil-a people: I SUPPORT YOUR RIGHT TO BOYCOTT! Sheesh! How mwny times do I have to tell you all this. I think I have said this 5 times now.
  • Brendakp Ev Rom 2012/09/21 13:36:51
    Brendakp
    Democrats created the KKK
  • Ev Rom Brendakp 2012/09/21 23:27:43
    Ev Rom
    So its Blacks, Latinos and other minority democrats who are in the KKK NOW?
  • Brendakp Ev Rom 2012/09/24 14:17:59
    Brendakp
    I said no such thing, quit twisting my words. I merely pointed out that the KKK was originally created by the democrats.
  • Ev Rom Brendakp 2012/09/25 01:43:45
    Ev Rom
    And all I am saying is who in the KKK now? Its not liberals
  • big_de_... Ev Rom 2012/09/21 15:13:02
    big_de_1999
    The fact of the matter is that you either believe in free speech, and donating money is a part of that, or you don't. What do you say?
  • Ev Rom big_de_... 2012/09/21 23:35:47
    Ev Rom
    I have said it several times. You can donate all the money you want to any group you want. You just cant force the group of people being affected by those donations to participate. Conservatives made a mistake, they thought only gay people were going to boycott, they didn't count on the people who love their gay friends and family. That is why its important to come out of the closet. Because if your family and friends love you as they should, they will defend you and not allow your rights to be trampled on. How many blacks do you think would have patronized a business who funded pro slavery groups or pro segregation back in those days? Not many.
  • Wulfdane 2012/09/20 20:54:01 (edited)
    Beautiful
    Wulfdane
    +6
    As a business owner and a conservative, I strongly believe in keeping a business separate from social politics. The goal of a business is to make money, not alienate a group of customers or employees.

    Let Society deal with Social issues, while businesses focus on serving customers and making money. If an Executive wants to support certain social issues, they should do it on their own time and with their own money.

    I supported the Owner Chick-Fil-A right to free speech. But from a purely business perspective, a business should deal with matters of a business nature.
  • Man_Bea... Wulfdane 2012/09/20 21:04:23
  • DebraJM... Wulfdane 2012/09/21 17:39:10
    DebraJMSmith
    Do you also strongly believe that it is right for a politician to illegally bully a business owner into a type of submission that goes against the business owner's conscience and constitutional rights?
  • De verdad 2012/09/20 20:51:28 (edited)
    Beautiful
    De verdad
    +1
    I don't eat there.the chicken has to much salt,yucky!! I don't eat at any of those fast foods to begin with!!
  • Friday - Just the Facts 2012/09/20 20:50:52
    Beautiful
    Friday - Just the Facts
    +1
    The right thing for a corporate citizen to do! Bravo, Now I can eat there without the Hate!
  • Aksana 2012/09/20 20:44:29
    Being Bullied
    Aksana
  • American Nate 2012/09/20 20:43:06
    Beautiful
    American Nate
    +54
    I still don't eat there. I don't like their food either way.

    chick fil a nasty
    chick fil a nasty
  • Chris America... 2012/09/20 21:25:42
    Chris
    +1
    Well, at least they weren't holding up a bunch of anti-gay signs.
  • jdemme America... 2012/09/20 21:50:18
    jdemme
    +4
    That's a great post.
  • Greg jdemme 2012/09/24 18:09:53
    Greg
    +1
    Creative, but ignorant. It assumes a moral equivalent between race and choosing to be gay. Race is traced, scientifically, to a gene. So is gender. A sexual preference is not.

    Preferences are no more genetically and biologically determined than ANY OTHER BEHAVIORAL CHOICE. Murder, rage, rape, pedophilia, etc ... have the same level of genetic determinants as homosexuality: NONE--except if you include the genes that determine that the murderer is human and has a temper.

    Conservatism, which is rooted in the Judeo-Christian faith, is solely responsible for ending the slave trade. This is historical fact. Look up William Wilberforce. The song "Amazing Grace" was written by a former slave-ship captain who converted to Christianity and joined forces with Wilberforce to end the slave trade. Not a single person who could be deemed a "liberal" was standing with them.

    The only people playing racial games are liberals. THINK. No one is banning any person from "mixing" with anyone else. The issue here is not whether or not you can have sex with anyone or anything you want. Who is saying anything to stop that? NO ONE. It is fabricated between your ears.

    THINK. If you would THINK with the excellent brain God gave you, you would understand that this entire "gay-marriage" thing ha...



    Creative, but ignorant. It assumes a moral equivalent between race and choosing to be gay. Race is traced, scientifically, to a gene. So is gender. A sexual preference is not.

    Preferences are no more genetically and biologically determined than ANY OTHER BEHAVIORAL CHOICE. Murder, rage, rape, pedophilia, etc ... have the same level of genetic determinants as homosexuality: NONE--except if you include the genes that determine that the murderer is human and has a temper.

    Conservatism, which is rooted in the Judeo-Christian faith, is solely responsible for ending the slave trade. This is historical fact. Look up William Wilberforce. The song "Amazing Grace" was written by a former slave-ship captain who converted to Christianity and joined forces with Wilberforce to end the slave trade. Not a single person who could be deemed a "liberal" was standing with them.

    The only people playing racial games are liberals. THINK. No one is banning any person from "mixing" with anyone else. The issue here is not whether or not you can have sex with anyone or anything you want. Who is saying anything to stop that? NO ONE. It is fabricated between your ears.

    THINK. If you would THINK with the excellent brain God gave you, you would understand that this entire "gay-marriage" thing has NOTHING to do with gays being able to be in a civil union with each other. That is already on the books as legal. The battle here is MARRIAGE.

    Here's the rub: the same "logic" you use to support so-called "gay-marriage" can--AND WILL BE--used to realize beastiality as a legal union. That is, a man marrying a dog, for instance. Once you determine that marriage is no longer created BY GOD and can be re-defined, you have no moral right to say that "consent" or "must be human" has to be a part of the definition of marriage.

    THIS is what the battle is all about. THINK.
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  • jdemme Greg 2012/09/27 00:47:41
    jdemme
    Your entire argument relies on the concept of homosexuality being a choice. It's not. I'm going to go ahead and assume you've never asked a gay person why they're gay, but they'll tell you the same thing that they tell everyone; they've always been gay. Homosexuality is a natural occurrence in almost every, if not every, species. From lions to monarch butterflies, the list is never ending. Which means that it's an effect of nature, not choice. I don't think a butterfly, a lion, or a human being wakes up in the morning and decides "Hey, let me try men today." They can't just stop being gay.

    Second, Christianity was used to DEFEND slavery by the south. You are ignoring the south's major ideological defense of something that plagued our country for 87 years. Conservatives like to pretend like they're the ideology of equality, but really they're not. You can make a defense for the GOP but not for conservatism.


    And if two men love each other, why can they not get married and enjoy the same benefits as other married couples? It's a blatant lie that gays enjoy the same rights as everyone else. Everyone else can marry the person that they love. Gays can not. Not only that, but in some states, gays cannot have civil unions either.

    And Marriage wasn't created by god, it was created as a wa...

    Your entire argument relies on the concept of homosexuality being a choice. It's not. I'm going to go ahead and assume you've never asked a gay person why they're gay, but they'll tell you the same thing that they tell everyone; they've always been gay. Homosexuality is a natural occurrence in almost every, if not every, species. From lions to monarch butterflies, the list is never ending. Which means that it's an effect of nature, not choice. I don't think a butterfly, a lion, or a human being wakes up in the morning and decides "Hey, let me try men today." They can't just stop being gay.

    Second, Christianity was used to DEFEND slavery by the south. You are ignoring the south's major ideological defense of something that plagued our country for 87 years. Conservatives like to pretend like they're the ideology of equality, but really they're not. You can make a defense for the GOP but not for conservatism.


    And if two men love each other, why can they not get married and enjoy the same benefits as other married couples? It's a blatant lie that gays enjoy the same rights as everyone else. Everyone else can marry the person that they love. Gays can not. Not only that, but in some states, gays cannot have civil unions either.

    And Marriage wasn't created by god, it was created as a way for people to pass their land on to their children. Marriage isn't rooted in the christian faith.

    And to bring god into this is a losing battle because if you run into someone like a few of my friends, who are atheist, your argument has no value. You might want to think about that next time you decide religion is the savior to your problems.
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  • Greg jdemme 2012/09/24 18:19:08
  • Roger America... 2012/09/21 01:03:49
    Roger
    this is supposed to be a free country, they can do whatever the hell they want and I am sorry but gays should not be able to get married because that mocks every single religion in the world or at least that I know of I am not that familiar with taoism and stuff like that but how many taoists are in america
  • VenomHalos Roger 2012/09/21 02:55:40
    VenomHalos
    +5
    Marriage actually has nothing to do with religion -_-
    As a matter of fact, gay marriage was legal until the Christians decided it shouldn't be.
  • DizziNY VenomHalos 2012/09/24 15:34:56
    DizziNY
    Ah no.. u cannot have a CHILD with two eggs or two sperm.. did u take basic biology?
  • VenomHalos DizziNY 2012/10/05 21:33:08
    VenomHalos
    Yes, actually. In fact, I didn't need biology for that.
    However, the point of marriage is not just to procreate. According to the Christians it is, but before them there were many gay marriages.
  • Greg VenomHalos 2012/09/24 18:14:51
    Greg
    Marriage is created by God. Read the Bible. It records the origins of marriage as created by the Creator.

    But lest I insult your intelligence: men have sex with dogs. Being married to your dog--does it matter if it was "legal" before Christianity existed? Does that mean that it is the moral equivalent of God-defined and created marriage? I'd love to hear your rationale on this.

    And to boot: you provide yet another example of how the same rational used to promote so-called "gay-marriage" will necessitate that beastiality, that is, a man marrying his dog, must also be made legal. The legalization of so-called "gay-marriage" will, if put through, provide all the arguments and legal precedent that will be needed to legalize beastiality, a man marrying his dog, his 5 year old daughter, YOU NAME IT! You will have effectively removed any and all moral boundaries in the process of legalizing "gay-marriage".
  • VenomHalos Greg 2012/10/10 16:39:42
    VenomHalos
    Honestly, you people disgust me. Beastiality? Paedophilia? Where is your mind at?
    And to answer your "question", no. Legalising gay marriage will not in any way force legalisation of those things. Believe it or not, a four-year-old and a dog cannot give consent to marriage. Adults, however, CAN.
    And no. Marriage was not created by your "God". Do some research.
  • COMALite J Roger 2012/09/21 05:29:42
    COMALite J
    +5
    Okay, by your logic, being Christian mocks every other religion in the world, so being Christian should be illegal.
  • Tagurrit Roger 2012/09/23 19:11:38
    Tagurrit
    +2
    How can you say it's a free country in one sentence and in the next say they can't get married? Marriage isn't a religious expression. If the Catholic Church doesn't want to marry gays then fine, "it's a free country". But if gays want to marry in a civil ceremony or at a Unitarian Church how is it a free country if local laws prevent it?
  • Greg Tagurrit 2012/09/24 18:23:50
    Greg
    They ALREADY can get in a civil union.

    You are sorely incorrect: MARRIAGE is NOT a Public Institution. It is founded by the Creator, and its origin is recorded in Scripture. Whether or not you believe that Scripture is authored by God or not is besides the point. HISTORICALLY, the origins of marriage are clear.

    I have yet to hear a supporter of so-called "gay-marriage" respond to my request to either 1) defend a man's ability to marry his dog; or 2) disallow a man's ability to marry his dog WITHOUT CONTRADICTING THEIR GAY-MARRIAGE ARGUMENT.

    You want to know why? Because supporters of so-called "gay-marriage" know that they can not deny a man's right to marry his dog without contradicting themselves. They understand that they are paving the way for the legalization of beastiality as a "valid form of marriage". That's why.

    You are the bigots and hypocrites, quite frankly.
  • Daring ... Roger 2012/09/23 21:21:22
    Daring Blasphemer BN-0
    THE DEFINITION OF IRONY:
    >>this is supposed to be a free country, they can do whatever the hell they want and I am sorry but gays should not be able to get married because that mocks every single religion in the world or at least that I know of I am not that familiar with taoism and stuff like that but how many taoists are in america<<
  • Magus BN-0 Roger 2012/09/24 04:26:44
    Magus BN-0
    +1
    this is supposed to be a free country, they can do whatever the hell they want
    I am sorry but gays should not be able to get married
    Can you really not see the contradiction here, Roger?

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