Yes, could'nt say it any better if I said it myself. The top 1% has had it there way all along and look where that got us .what makes you think if you allow them to make even more money, they won't just open another Swiss bank account or find other ways to avoid paying taxes..
Obama's threats aka election promises, are based on the faulty assumption that supporting the wealthy is counterproductive to the rest of the populace. The fact is the economy is dependent on the financial overflow of the wealthy corporations, tax breaks in this sector sector convert to expansion, increased productivity, job creation etc. Crippling big business and/or attempting to place a ceiling on prosperity translates to economic regression & hoarding of money by the individual rather than individual risk taking & returning the funds back into the countries financial arterial system.
Politicians rely on public naivety about national finances...governments have no money of their own, the taxpayer is the Governments piggybank, hence the individual is integral to the prosperity of the country via the trickle down effect. The wealthier the individual/s the greater their capacity to contribute to a healthy financial ecosystem.
The welfare culture is a western phenomenon, the government, in this case Obama, offers to ensure continuity & safeguards in this system rather than actively looking @ viable alternatives to promote self reliance instead Liberals kindly give the tax payers money to those not earning their own. "For society as a whole, nothing comes as a 'right' to which w...
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Obama's threats aka election promises, are based on the faulty assumption that supporting the wealthy is counterproductive to the rest of the populace. The fact is the economy is dependent on the financial overflow of the wealthy corporations, tax breaks in this sector sector convert to expansion, increased productivity, job creation etc. Crippling big business and/or attempting to place a ceiling on prosperity translates to economic regression & hoarding of money by the individual rather than individual risk taking & returning the funds back into the countries financial arterial system.
Politicians rely on public naivety about national finances...governments have no money of their own, the taxpayer is the Governments piggybank, hence the individual is integral to the prosperity of the country via the trickle down effect. The wealthier the individual/s the greater their capacity to contribute to a healthy financial ecosystem.
The welfare culture is a western phenomenon, the government, in this case Obama, offers to ensure continuity & safeguards in this system rather than actively looking @ viable alternatives to promote self reliance instead Liberals kindly give the tax payers money to those not earning their own. "For society as a whole, nothing comes as a 'right' to which we are 'entitled'. Even bare subsistence has to be produced.... The only way anyone can have a right to something that has to be produced is to force someone else to produce it... The more things are provided as rights, the less the recipients have to work and the more the providers have to carry the load." Thomas Sowell, quoted in Forbes and Reader's Digest.
According to Mr. Kneeland, "...all dollars come from the people. Where do [you] think Coca-Cola gets the money to pay its taxes, Exxon gets its money to pay the Exxon Valdez fines, Denny's gets the money to pay its Justice Department fines, or even Microsoft gets the money to defend itself? It all ultimately can come from only one place, and that's from individuals." ED: When you buy a product, the price of that product has to cover ALL the costs to get that product to you.
"A politician cannot spend one dime on any spending project without first taking that dime from the person who earned it. So, when a politician votes for a spending bill he is saying that he believes the government should spend that particular dollar rather than the individual who worked for it." Neal Boortz.
Only a fool would rely on the promises made during election campaigns. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior, this is empirically proven & informs many decisions related to potential risks. I note no mention of Obama's tendency to resort to stimulus packages in an attempt to kickstart a free falling economy. Ask why was it free falling in the first place, be certain that if big business is spooked the economy suffers.
For those who think Obama's use of this strategy is effective, remember Economic Stimulus" is shifting us from an "economic crisis" to a debt crisis. This practice is the same as business using monopoly money with the governments blessing for a period of time, business could give this money to customers to spend on their products...everyone happy for a while.. Until bankruptcy resulted. Hence Obama has relied on printing & giving away money to stimulate the economy...a dangerous, irresponsible short term fix with debt ultimately being stimulated exponentially & the economy thrown back into fear & stagnation mode.
And despite the common belief that large wealthy corporations are given a free tax ride the fact is ' the 5 % of the top earners already pay over half of all income taxes in the US. And earn only 33% of annual income. Quote..."...in 2002 the latest year of available data, the top 5 percent of taxpayers paid more than one-half (53.8 percent) of all individual income taxes, but reported roughly one-third (30.6 percent) of income...'
The ad failed to touch on core issues related to the economy. I find this a blatant disregard & underestimation of the American intellect. Civil rights are important but in a hierarchy of importance they must not distract from code red when the country is facing the most insidious crises in America's history. Never before in peacetime has the threat to to the countries way of life & political relevance been so profound.
Your way of life you mean! So let's all trample on the weak and less fortunate for a buck!!!while those on the top pay less and less.. Morality.." civil rights must not distract from code red "you said, the reason for the downhill spiral of this country is that people are so willing to disregard what's right in order to get ahead. Exxon valdez good example. Your words not mine..
The fact is the wealthy contribute significantly via tax. If the tax is too crippling it destroys those corporations that do feed America. Working towards increasing employment & prosperity for all is the ultimate aim. Unless you endorse a communist leveling of wealth there will always be financial diversity.
You have accepted the rhetoric that taxes on business causes them to stop hiring which, as a previous business owner of three businesses, I can tell you is totally false. We really don't need to raise taxes on the wealthy or on businesses. We already have a graduated income tax code. All we need to do is eliminate the loopholes and subsidies.
Totally agree. The largest gas corporations paid only an average of 3% corporate taxes this year while claiming billions in profit. I don't think their growth is impeded.
Obama should just say "I want you to give me all your money" ad. If you work, you pay the most, if you don't work, you pay the least. I really hope the american people are a bit more savy this time around.
I don't hate Obama, I hate what he's doing and want him out of a place in power that he should never have been given! Isn't it funny that he and the rest of you sheep like to play the dirtiest games and tactics to discredit Romney when a better topic would be what real good has Obama done for the US?? Not a whole hell of a lot! Unemployment up and he only cares about HIS job!! The national debt higher than all the prior presidents, COMBINED!! The nation because of the Obama rhetoric is more Racially divided since before the civil rights acts!! But idiots like you will perpetuate this divide by displaying a dancing black man calling others haters!!?? If he does get re-elected, not only will the US be sorry for the mistake, but the world will be in greater danger than during any world war of the past! OF BIBLICAL PROPORTIONS!!
Thank you Birdman. I am afraid too many Americans are oblivious to the magnitude of the economic disaster lurking, a nation on a precipice & the real dangers are being disguised by political speak that the vast majority believe because they want to feel secure. Those who direct the lens towards the precipice are labelled alarmists, racist, homophobic, haters. If ever there was a time for unity, synergistic, concerted choruses demanding immediate action directed towards debt reduction & forcing Obama off his planned spending with no intent to slow down. America is close on the heels of Europes implosion, how can this not be apparent?!!
How does ridiculing each other help anyone? The issues are real. I respect your point of view & all I can do is encourage you to similarly look at the counterarguments, the ones that don't ridicule. It's been quid pro quo but ultimately all Americans are fighting for the future security of a great nation in trouble.
The economy has been my primary focus!! Yes, presidents come & go & when a president's decisions, in this case Obama, fuels an already crippling national debt & paralyzes once wealthy, job creating corporations it is time to re-evaluate (understatement) what you want America to be in four years? What will it mean to be American? Look for a new, hybrid identity that you don't ever recall playing a part in the creation of this new identity. You label & stereotype without understanding the real arguments presented. Keep name calling, your proving a point for many about Liberals & just how open & receptive to diversity you aren't!
It is apparent to folks with clear heads! The libturd sheep are running on something entirely different, and can't see what needs to be done about it! They just don't look at the BIG picture because they have so many individual agendas they believe take precedence over all others! If we don't get this country stable and shore up the economy, it will have a far reaching effect across the globe! Look at what has happened in Greece to cause so many different markets and economies to teeter on the edge, and Greece is no major player either! The libturds put social agendas at the forefront of todays issues, and the end result will be no matter how much the Fed prints, our money will be equal to Charmin toilet paper!
You've summed up the issues perfectly. I don'he know the answer when it is the people voting who perpetuate the problem & refuse to see the carnage around them. The economic fragility of the global market has been demonstrated over recent years, particularly your point about the ripple effect when one economy free falls. Thank you for your insights & common sense!
All yo have to do is look at Willard's history to see what he would do. He cut taxes as Governor and added a bunch of fees most paid the middle and lower class to make up for it. And like all attempts and trickle down economics, it failed miserably.
Willard endorsed Paul Ryan's plan, the same plane the Traveling Nuns are protesting, which would of course, add trillions to the debt they refuse to raise. It would also eliminate medicare there by driving up the cost of health care for everyone. It's a great plan. Using the very limited variables Mr. Ryan set for the plan, like inflation not happening, costs not rising and the absolute guarantee that the economy would continue to grow and an unusually quick rate, the MAY balance the budget in 40 or 50 years. Sure, let's go with the plan that will only work badly when you limit the values at which that plan can measured. Imagine how bad the plan would look if the CBO got to use the number they wanted?
Kern, I posted this below but MUST POST IT HERE FOR YOUR BENEFIT...about trickle down, the most successful system there is. Please read this... If you have seen no sign wealthy corporations have not helped the economy, then you haven't looked. The wealthy people and corporations are the top of the most successful system there is. The "Trickle Down, " system. When corporations get tax breaks, they can invest more money in more products, more jobs for the middle class and more residual jobs for the poor. Without the greedy corporations, there can be no pay checks. Poor people do not hire people...poor people do not pay people to work for them...poor people do not sign paychecks. Ronald Reagan and Newt Gingrich (in spite of Bill Clinton) proved that beyond a doubt. All the prosperous periods of this nation came as a result of lowering taxes on the rich. Even so, the 5 % of the top earners already pay over half of all income taxes in the US. And earn only 33% of annual income. Quote..."...in 2002 the latest year of available data, the top 5 percent of taxpayers paid more than one-half (53.8 percent) of all individual income taxes, but reported roughly one-third (30.6 percent) of income... " http://usgovinfo.about.com/od... Do some research...it isn't bad to be rich...
Let's see Reagan cut taxes for the rich and tripled our national debt. Bush cut taxes for the rich and doubled our national debt. Bushes tax cuts cost this country 2 trillion dollars. The "added" returns don not add up to 2 trillion dollars. We are STILL paying for Reagan's tax cuts so tell me, when will the Regan tax cut be paid off and why didn't Bush's tax cut pay for themselves like he said they would?
Clinton left Bush a budget that was paying down our national debt. Bush cut those tax rates for the rich and we start to run a deficit. The cut to welfare and other social programs are still in place but the Clinton tax rates aren't. We're running a deficit. What's different.
And your silly notion that rich people create jobs has been proved untrue for so long now that fact that latch onto it is disturbing.
The rich do not invest their money and create jobs with tax cuts; they save it.
Tell me, you're running a company. You get a tax cut. Do immediately go out and hire someone or do you wait until your demand goes up and then hire someone to help you keep up? If people aren't buying, you're not increasing your production.
When you point out the "record" revenues because of tax cuts you need remember that during the Bush years, the loan rates we...
Let's see Reagan cut taxes for the rich and tripled our national debt. Bush cut taxes for the rich and doubled our national debt. Bushes tax cuts cost this country 2 trillion dollars. The "added" returns don not add up to 2 trillion dollars. We are STILL paying for Reagan's tax cuts so tell me, when will the Regan tax cut be paid off and why didn't Bush's tax cut pay for themselves like he said they would?
Clinton left Bush a budget that was paying down our national debt. Bush cut those tax rates for the rich and we start to run a deficit. The cut to welfare and other social programs are still in place but the Clinton tax rates aren't. We're running a deficit. What's different.
And your silly notion that rich people create jobs has been proved untrue for so long now that fact that latch onto it is disturbing.
The rich do not invest their money and create jobs with tax cuts; they save it.
Tell me, you're running a company. You get a tax cut. Do immediately go out and hire someone or do you wait until your demand goes up and then hire someone to help you keep up? If people aren't buying, you're not increasing your production.
When you point out the "record" revenues because of tax cuts you need remember that during the Bush years, the loan rates were purposefully kept low to keep money money moving. And Bush had one of the worst job creation records in history.
Nobody is calling rich people evil. We are simply stating a fact. Giving tax breaks to rich people does not lead to job growth.
Obama is a lying piece of crap...he has not kept one promise from the day he slithered his way into office. There are about 20 or more taxes hidden into the Obama care, Job stimulus plans that were never made public by the left-wing press and many will hurt the Middle Class. The National debt for each American is now at around 70,000.00 more than 5 Trillion added from the time this community organizer won..FACT. Only the use full idiots would think Obama is good for the Republic and the Constitution.
That is the epitome of "funny money" or "hobo rich".... they have to spend it as fast as they can... BHO's wife has been doing this the entire time she has been in the WH!
Politicians rely on public naivety about national finances...governments have no money of their own, the taxpayer is the Governments piggybank, hence the individual is integral to the prosperity of the country via the trickle down effect. The wealthier the individual/s the greater their capacity to contribute to a healthy financial ecosystem.
The welfare culture is a western phenomenon, the government, in this case Obama, offers to ensure continuity & safeguards in this system rather than actively looking @ viable alternatives to promote self reliance instead Liberals kindly give the tax payers money to those not earning their own. "For society as a whole, nothing comes as a 'right' to which w...
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Politicians rely on public naivety about national finances...governments have no money of their own, the taxpayer is the Governments piggybank, hence the individual is integral to the prosperity of the country via the trickle down effect. The wealthier the individual/s the greater their capacity to contribute to a healthy financial ecosystem.
The welfare culture is a western phenomenon, the government, in this case Obama, offers to ensure continuity & safeguards in this system rather than actively looking @ viable alternatives to promote self reliance instead Liberals kindly give the tax payers money to those not earning their own. "For society as a whole, nothing comes as a 'right' to which we are 'entitled'. Even bare subsistence has to be produced.... The only way anyone can have a right to something that has to be produced is to force someone else to produce it... The more things are provided as rights, the less the recipients have to work and the more the providers have to carry the load." Thomas Sowell, quoted in Forbes and Reader's Digest.
According to Mr. Kneeland, "...all dollars come from the people. Where do [you] think Coca-Cola gets the money to pay its taxes, Exxon gets its money to pay the Exxon Valdez fines, Denny's gets the money to pay its Justice Department fines, or even Microsoft gets the money to defend itself? It all ultimately can come from only one place, and that's from individuals." ED: When you buy a product, the price of that product has to cover ALL the costs to get that product to you.
"A politician cannot spend one dime on any spending project without first taking that dime from the person who earned it. So, when a politician votes for a spending bill he is saying that he believes the government should spend that particular dollar rather than the individual who worked for it." Neal Boortz.
Only a fool would rely on the promises made during election campaigns. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior, this is empirically proven & informs many decisions related to potential risks. I note no mention of Obama's tendency to resort to stimulus packages in an attempt to kickstart a free falling economy. Ask why was it free falling in the first place, be certain that if big business is spooked the economy suffers.
For those who think Obama's use of this strategy is effective, remember Economic Stimulus" is shifting us from an "economic crisis" to a debt crisis. This practice is the same as business using monopoly money with the governments blessing for a period of time, business could give this money to customers to spend on their products...everyone happy for a while.. Until bankruptcy resulted. Hence Obama has relied on printing & giving away money to stimulate the economy...a dangerous, irresponsible short term fix with debt ultimately being stimulated exponentially & the economy thrown back into fear & stagnation mode.
And despite the common belief that large wealthy corporations are given a free tax ride the fact is ' the 5 % of the top earners already pay over half of all income taxes in the US. And earn only 33% of annual income. Quote..."...in 2002 the latest year of available data, the top 5 percent of taxpayers paid more than one-half (53.8 percent) of all individual income taxes, but reported roughly one-third (30.6 percent) of income...'
The ad failed to touch on core issues related to the economy. I find this a blatant disregard & underestimation of the American intellect. Civil rights are important but in a hierarchy of importance they must not distract from code red when the country is facing the most insidious crises in America's history. Never before in peacetime has the threat to to the countries way of life & political relevance been so profound.
Thank you Birdman. I am afraid too many Americans are oblivious to the magnitude of the economic disaster lurking, a nation on a precipice & the real dangers are being disguised by political speak that the vast majority believe because they want to feel secure. Those who direct the lens towards the precipice are labelled alarmists, racist, homophobic, haters. If ever there was a time for unity, synergistic, concerted choruses demanding immediate action directed towards debt reduction & forcing Obama off his planned spending with no intent to slow down. America is close on the heels of Europes implosion, how can this not be apparent?!!
The issues are real. I respect your point of view & all I can do is encourage you to similarly look at the counterarguments, the ones that don't ridicule. It's been quid pro quo but ultimately all Americans are fighting for the future security of a great nation in trouble.
Willard endorsed Paul Ryan's plan, the same plane the Traveling Nuns are protesting, which would of course, add trillions to the debt they refuse to raise. It would also eliminate medicare there by driving up the cost of health care for everyone. It's a great plan. Using the very limited variables Mr. Ryan set for the plan, like inflation not happening, costs not rising and the absolute guarantee that the economy would continue to grow and an unusually quick rate, the MAY balance the budget in 40 or 50 years. Sure, let's go with the plan that will only work badly when you limit the values at which that plan can measured. Imagine how bad the plan would look if the CBO got to use the number they wanted?
So, yes, I think the ad is dead on.
I posted this below but MUST POST IT HERE FOR YOUR BENEFIT...about trickle down, the most successful system there is.
Please read this...
If you have seen no sign wealthy corporations have not helped the economy, then you haven't looked. The wealthy people and corporations are the top of the most successful system there is. The "Trickle Down, " system. When corporations get tax breaks, they can invest more money in more products, more jobs for the middle class and more residual jobs for the poor. Without the greedy corporations, there can be no pay checks. Poor people do not hire people...poor people do not pay people to work for them...poor people do not sign paychecks. Ronald Reagan and Newt Gingrich (in spite of Bill Clinton) proved that beyond a doubt. All the prosperous periods of this nation came as a result of lowering taxes on the rich. Even so, the 5 % of the top earners already pay over half of all income taxes in the US. And earn only 33% of annual income. Quote..."...in 2002 the latest year of available data, the top 5 percent of taxpayers paid more than one-half (53.8 percent) of all individual income taxes, but reported roughly one-third (30.6 percent) of income...
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Do some research...it isn't bad to be rich...
Clinton left Bush a budget that was paying down our national debt. Bush cut those tax rates for the rich and we start to run a deficit. The cut to welfare and other social programs are still in place but the Clinton tax rates aren't. We're running a deficit. What's different.
And your silly notion that rich people create jobs has been proved untrue for so long now that fact that latch onto it is disturbing.
The rich do not invest their money and create jobs with tax cuts; they save it.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news...
Tell me, you're running a company. You get a tax cut. Do immediately go out and hire someone or do you wait until your demand goes up and then hire someone to help you keep up? If people aren't buying, you're not increasing your production.
When you point out the "record" revenues because of tax cuts you need remember that during the Bush years, the loan rates we...
Clinton left Bush a budget that was paying down our national debt. Bush cut those tax rates for the rich and we start to run a deficit. The cut to welfare and other social programs are still in place but the Clinton tax rates aren't. We're running a deficit. What's different.
And your silly notion that rich people create jobs has been proved untrue for so long now that fact that latch onto it is disturbing.
The rich do not invest their money and create jobs with tax cuts; they save it.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news...
Tell me, you're running a company. You get a tax cut. Do immediately go out and hire someone or do you wait until your demand goes up and then hire someone to help you keep up? If people aren't buying, you're not increasing your production.
When you point out the "record" revenues because of tax cuts you need remember that during the Bush years, the loan rates were purposefully kept low to keep money money moving. And Bush had one of the worst job creation records in history.
Nobody is calling rich people evil. We are simply stating a fact. Giving tax breaks to rich people does not lead to job growth.
He has started on both and could succeed if he gets a second term.