Alexander Abad-Santos
Asked, "Do you think the Republicans are intentionally stalling efforts
to jumpstart the economy to insure [sic] that Barack Obama is not
re-elected?" a poll found that 34 percent of Florida conservatives said
yes. Conspiracy, political posturing, savvy strategy-- call it what you
want, but
the Suffolk University poll gives evidence that the theory is not just a partisan position. As Peter Scorsch, from SaintPetersBlog
points out, it's the Republican answers that surprised:
...49 percent said they believe that the Republicans are
intentionally hindering efforts to boost the economy so that President
Barack Obama will not be reelected. Thirty-nine percent disagreed. As
expected, most registered Democrats (70 percent) agreed that Republicans
are intentionally hindering the economy and hurting Obama, but
independents (52 percent) and even some Republicans (24 percent) also
agreed.
Kevin Drum from
Mother Jones expands on the point:
What's interesting isn't just that half of all voters think the answer
is yes, it's the breakdown: a quarter of all Republicans and a third of
all conservatives also think the answer is yes. In other words, this
isn't just a liberal conspiracy theory. Even a lot of conservatives
recognize what's going on. I wouldn't make too much of a single state
poll, but those numbers are high enough that they might represent a
glimmering recognition of something that's only been Beltway chatter up
to now.
Drum's figures on conservative answers were gleaned from the poll's
breakdown
of the numbers. But it's also worth nothing that there weren't any
followup questions if (perceived) Republican subterfuge would sway a
vote. You know, questions like "Is this going to change your vote?" or
"Doesn't that just make you really depressed and mad that they'd harm
American jobs just for political gain?" or "Is this a brilliant
strategy?"
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/11/conservatives...
I do tend to think that you and similar business owners tend to be a bit oversensitive and "whiny" about how Mr. Obama has seriously set out to ruin you. That makes no sense to me. Do you have examples?
First, I feel you misunderstood my original message now that I have re-read the conversation. Please understand that the businesses I associate with are trying to STRENGTHEN our local businesses by working TOGETHER. We recommend each other, share leads for opportunities and so on. We share the business there already is and help each other know where to look for new contacts if we get the chance. THIS is the position of strength of which I spoke. When we are SUCCESSFUL, only then can we stand against the policies that would hurt our companies. We are not stupid enough to think that by tanking the economy and showing his ineptitude that this will help us in ANY way. We believe in showing how we can flourish WITHOUT government help or interference. We need to be strong DESPITE him to be able to show their direct effects once his policies become effective. This is how you save your community and work to undo destructive policies. You don't tank the one way you have of staying in business and basically cut off your nose to spite your face.
Obamacare will put us out of business. That's a fact. We can't meet the requirements. Period.
The restrictions he has put on businesses in more broa...
First, I feel you misunderstood my original message now that I have re-read the conversation. Please understand that the businesses I associate with are trying to STRENGTHEN our local businesses by working TOGETHER. We recommend each other, share leads for opportunities and so on. We share the business there already is and help each other know where to look for new contacts if we get the chance. THIS is the position of strength of which I spoke. When we are SUCCESSFUL, only then can we stand against the policies that would hurt our companies. We are not stupid enough to think that by tanking the economy and showing his ineptitude that this will help us in ANY way. We believe in showing how we can flourish WITHOUT government help or interference. We need to be strong DESPITE him to be able to show their direct effects once his policies become effective. This is how you save your community and work to undo destructive policies. You don't tank the one way you have of staying in business and basically cut off your nose to spite your face.
Obamacare will put us out of business. That's a fact. We can't meet the requirements. Period.
The restrictions he has put on businesses in more broad strokes are already hampering us. We have more regulation and less profit. But even bigger than this is that the companies we SERVE have had to cut back to be in compliance. Plus, the cost of fuel has cut into profit as well as increased the cost of the goods we buy. Our freight bills have gone up and we've had to raise prices. This leads to lower buying by our customer base.
His interference with the Keystone Pipeline has hurt us so bad we're struggling to keep our heads above water right now. As companies cut back their business, they cut back their buying and so it all rolls...
I understand that not every policy was put into effect by Obama. I'm plenty pissed at Bush and Clinton, too. But he had the opportunity to do something to ease things here and at EVERY turn, he pandered to votes from illegals, environmentalists and every other lobby instead of protecting the people who elected him. He didn't take any of a multitude of opportunities to boost the economy, get out of the way so we can create jobs and grow our companies, or allow the states their rights to protect themselves, enforce their laws and even HELP the federal government to secure our borders. Instead he's been campaigning.
I may not be your cup of tea, but I only know that I LIVE the talking points others memorize.
I've seen the rise in illegals in our local work force while there are fewer and fewer jobs for actual citizens. I wouldn't care if they all became citizens. My grandfather was an immigrant as well as all of my great grandparents. I just ask that they go through the process and do it legally as well as PAY THEIR TAXES!! Instead of mooching from the system, become part of the tax base and help everyone pay less.
Because we are a small company, I do our books, monitor our taxes, buy, hire and manage our benefits program. Currently, we don't offer many benefits because we aren't big enough to get any rates worth paying. Our employees can't afford high premiums, either. Now, here is what happens to my choices. We had a plan in place to get to where we might be able to offer some small policy to help with big stuff. Obamacare puts more costs and regulations on us so now that plan has to be scrapped. It will take away our ability to provide PRIVATE insurance for our employees, PLUS force my current workers to go onto the PUBLIC rolls. This is bad. If left to our own devices, we could have put more money back into the economy eventually (by buying insurance), but this plan forces us to take from it instead (by joining public rolls) just to be in compliance with this new set of federal regulations. Doesn't anyone see how this is the crux of the problem??
You Right-wingers are SO annoying for how you ignore facts and believe falsehoods, you know. You somehow think that you can lie all you want and we won't notice. WRONG!!!
If you somehow actually fantasize you have "facts" supporting your crazy views, then why don't you offer any proof? Could it be because you have NONE?
It scares me that idiots like you have the vote.
1. Detroit bailout
2. Stimulus.
3. Cutting back on spending.
4. Lilly Ledbetter law (helping women workers helps all workers and therefore all businesses).
5. Obamacare, which will relieve businesses that can't afford it of the burden of providing health insurance to employees, thus increasing competitiveness.
To mention a few.
Conversely, how about you PROVE he's "trying to sabotage" the economy. Perhaps you could start by explaining how ANY President would want to do such a crazy thing.
The gov. not just the Repubs, but the Dems too are both equally corrupt, in that they both are self serving, money mongers. Political and Personal gain has been their game for a Long Time now, Question is , Are we going to let it continue?? and if not What are our options?
IM not REPUBLICAN
there is Plenty of evidence to support that both sides are money oriented and for self progress! AND you have NO idea whats going on with me Clearly, so your baseless assumptions can stop now.
It pained me to have to make the decision to vote a straight Democratic ticket last year because I have ALWAYS voted the person instead of a party line. I have gotten so angry watching them in action that my adult children have looked at me strange when I yell at the TV after hearing their lies & gobbledegook. I view them as traitors as I feel that for them to deliberately do things that everyone knows will cause greater harm is traitorous in my eyes.
To be clear, extremists do not even understand what "proof" is, so they're 'points' can ALWAYS be disproved by actual evidence.