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Celebrating the SCOTUS Ruling on Obamacare? GOOGLE Liverpool Care Pathways.

brtndr 2012/07/01 13:46:59


7/1/12

People who supported The Affordable Care Act, and are currently joygasing after the 5-4 decision by the Supreme Court that found Obama/Romney Care, "Constitutional". Despite several Articles and Amendments in the Constitution and Bill of Rights that clearly state that it's not.

However, if you insist that it's legal for the government to force the citizens into a contract with the 1% of mega-rich insurance companies, that are all owned by the mega rich 1% of the 5 major privately owned international banks like JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America, Wells Fargo with Goldman Sachs sitting at the top of the pyramid. And, you think they care about your health, or the health of a nation?

Then GOOGLE, "Liverpool Care Pathways". REPEAT: Liverpool Care Pathways

Then tell the rest of us all, what you found.

If you're not shocked after reading the articles on the first page of your Google search? Then there is something really wrong with you.

The Liverpool Care Pathways was adopted in the 1990's by Britain's form of "Universal Affordable Care Act", which served as the model for the Obama/Romney Care Act that the Supreme Court recently ruled as "CONSTITUTIONAL". And, many democrat political hacks defend.

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  • Michaelene 2012/07/02 19:59:44
    Michaelene
    +3
    I know that my time and my care will be limited due to my disability because the authors of the Health Tax bill are eugenecists. The productive life cycle will limit medical proceedures to those under 3 years old and over 60. Read more by Dr Ezekial Emmanuel, yes Rhambo's brother. He's predicting worse now, 2-40???
    It's the Chicago way for the USA!

    The death of health insurance!
    http://www.physicianspractice...

    Advisor Dr Ezekial Emanuel bleak life cycle, health care will be sparse and deficient for US
    http://pjmedia.com/blog/meet-...
  • Julian 2012/07/01 19:40:43
    Julian
    +3
    "Many elderly patients go into the hospital for an emergency and get put on LCP as a matter of protocol to put them on this euthanasia protocol without documented proof that the patient wants it, or can't recover from their health problem.

    "Under the protocol, patients must be on a predicted path to death within 3-4 days and in many circumstances there is growing concern that it is being used to dispose of older, costly patients who need health care to extend life. Many people believe doctors, hospitals and the NHS have put this protocol into place to cut costs and ration care. Instead of providing health care, a patient is put on a morphine syringe/drip and denied food/water and put to death in just about a day and a half."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
  • brtndr Julian 2012/07/01 19:47:02
    brtndr
    +1
    Thanks for sharing.
  • TruBluTopaz 2012/07/01 18:44:44
    TruBluTopaz
    +2
    One of the stories I cited in a response to a chortling NYT column was listed. Just the headline should worry folks-especially those who were convinced by AARP to support this atrocious bill. The headline was that using minimal procedures, 130,000 elderly patients with otherwise minimal issues were "allowed to die." Folks, this is rationing and the Death Panels without the catchy titles.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...
  • Elaine Magliacane 2012/07/01 18:26:05
    Elaine Magliacane
    +2
    Death Panels... ARE in the bill, along with a TAX on your house if you sell it ... and lots of other taxes, fees, and don't forget, if the government says NO... you will have to LEAVE the country to get treatment... just like the Canadians do now ... don't know where they'll go now for care Japan? India? Germany? Where in the world will FREEDOM REIGN?
  • Q 2012/07/01 18:07:43
    Q
    What the hell is joygasing? Is that like hot boxing or a dutch oven?
  • jubil8 BN-0 PON 2012/07/01 18:05:12
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +1
    Can you explain to me why Congress can't remove any provision in the act that could be construed as allowing such procedures? Or why a family can't be sure the ill member isn't placed on such a path?

    I've read enough horror stories about hospital/staff negligence to know very well that I have to be my own advocate and make sure my family knows exactly what I want and what I want from them. This is just another aspect to make sure I cover, not a government plot to exterminate the elderly when the time comes.

    Did you know it was common (although not legal) until fairly recently to euthanize the terminally ill? My mother and aunt did it for their mother in 1938 under her doc's guidance (he wasn't there; he told them what to look for and gave them a lethal dose of pain meds to administer when they saw the signs).

    People didn't die in hospitals as much then, and docs recognized the validity of the family's needs as well as the patient's. Obviously a major degree of trust between doc and family was important -- you couldn't have greedy kids hastening Rich Dad's demise so they could get their hands on the money sooner. And I'm sure that happened anyway.
  • Spizzzo BN-0 2012/07/01 17:37:08
    Spizzzo BN-0
    +3
    What I found is info about a controversial practice in Brittan's NHS. This his TOTALLY irrelevant to any issue surrounding Obacare, since the Brittish NHS is NOTHING like Obamacare. Why are you bringing up such an irrelevant item?
  • Q Spizzzo... 2012/07/01 18:10:20
    Q
    +3
    Because they're falling back on their 2009 disinformation playbook in order to stir up public resentment with America's low information voters.
  • Spizzzo... Q 2012/07/02 06:59:31
    Spizzzo BN-0
    +1
    And I'm trying to educate the low-information types. Pretty hopeless, eh?
  • brtndr Spizzzo... 2012/07/01 18:51:05
    brtndr
    +1
    If Britain’s socialist healthcare system is a benchmark for what we can expect from Obamacare, hundreds of thousands of elderly patients face being euthanized through “assisted death” techniques designed to cut costs.

    The idea that “death panels” would be introduced through Obamacare as a means of rationing healthcare was discussed during an Aspen Institute conference in 2010 when Bill Gates argued that money should not be spent on treating the elderly.

    During a question and answer session, Gates implied that elderly patients undergoing expensive health care treatments should be killed and the money spent elsewhere.

    Gates said there was a “lack of willingness” to consider the question of choosing between “spending a million dollars on that last three months of life for that patient” or laying off ten teachers.

    “But that’s called the death panel and you’re not supposed to have that discussion,” added Gates.

    However, Britain’s socialist healthcare system under the NHS has gone light years beyond death panels and actually introduced a method of “care” that actually has the intended effect of euthanizing patients.

    In a recent exposé, Patrick Pullicino, a consultant neurologist for East Kent Hospitals and professor of clinical neurosciences at the University of Kent, revealed that of the...





















    If Britain’s socialist healthcare system is a benchmark for what we can expect from Obamacare, hundreds of thousands of elderly patients face being euthanized through “assisted death” techniques designed to cut costs.

    The idea that “death panels” would be introduced through Obamacare as a means of rationing healthcare was discussed during an Aspen Institute conference in 2010 when Bill Gates argued that money should not be spent on treating the elderly.

    During a question and answer session, Gates implied that elderly patients undergoing expensive health care treatments should be killed and the money spent elsewhere.

    Gates said there was a “lack of willingness” to consider the question of choosing between “spending a million dollars on that last three months of life for that patient” or laying off ten teachers.

    “But that’s called the death panel and you’re not supposed to have that discussion,” added Gates.

    However, Britain’s socialist healthcare system under the NHS has gone light years beyond death panels and actually introduced a method of “care” that actually has the intended effect of euthanizing patients.

    In a recent exposé, Patrick Pullicino, a consultant neurologist for East Kent Hospitals and professor of clinical neurosciences at the University of Kent, revealed that of the 450,000 patients who die annually under the care of the NHS, 130,000 of them were on the Liverpool Care Pathway.

    Liverpool Care Pathway (LCP) is a process whereby a doctor identifies a patient who is likely to die and that patient is then heavily sedated while treatment is withdrawn, “including the provision of water and nourishment by tube.”

    “If we accept the Liverpool Care Pathway we accept that euthanasia is part of the standard way of dying as it is now associated with 29 per cent of NHS deaths,” Pullicino said.

    The Microsoft owner’s advocacy for killing granny in the name of spending the money elsewhere strikes at the root of why so many Americans are outraged over Obamacare, which contains as one of its core components a cost/benefit board which will be able to refuse care to elderly patients, proving that death panels will indeed come into force despite establishment media PR campaigns to convince the public otherwise.
    http://www.firstthings.com/bl...

    Although Americans will be subject to the whims of death panels, the federal government will “continue to require hospitals to provide emergency treatment to illegal immigrants at taxpayer expense,” the New York Times reported.
    http://prescriptions.blogs.ny...

    However, the wider significance of Gates’ comments has gone completely unnoticed by those outraged over what he said.

    Gates is an avowed eugenicist who is committed to drastically reducing the world’s population in the name of combating global warming. This is alarming given the fact that the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation funds the production and distribution of vaccines to the third world.

    During a February 2010 TED conference, Gates openly stated that vaccines would be used to reduce global population and lower CO2 emissions.

    Stating that the global population was heading towards 9 billion, Gates said, “If we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services (abortion), we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 per cent.”



    Quite how an improvement in health care and vaccines that supposedly save lives would lead to a lowering in global population is an oxymoron, unless Gates was referring to vaccines that sterilize people, which is precisely the same method advocated in White House science advisor John P. Holdren’s 1977 textbook Ecoscience, which calls for a dictatorial “planetary regime” to enforce draconian measures of population reduction via all manner of oppressive techniques, including sterilization.
    (more)
  • Spizzzo... brtndr 2012/07/02 07:15:14
    Spizzzo BN-0
    Your "argument" is so wrong on so many levels I had to stop reading your trash about 2/3s of the way through. You should be grateful I stuck with it that long. Again, cutting through the cluttered thinking of your garbage:

    Obamacare is NOTHING like the UK NHS.

    Obamacare is NOT "Socialized Medicine".

    Obamacare does NOTHING that will dramatically change health care, though it offers moderate improvements and BIG increases in access to care through insuring the uninsured.

    Opposing Obamacare amounts to favoring the continued deaths of thousands of Americans per year through lack of insurance (since a killed Obamacare will NOT be replaced, realistically). Why do you want thousands per year to die? Why aren't you seeking to help people rather than kill them?

    You insanely oppose Obamacare because of what you fear it "might" become, someday in the future if things don't go your way. This is not only crazy, but it displays a DEEP, DEEP distrust of our American system of government.


    Your sort of opposition is just irrational. There ARE rational ways to oppose it by improving it (NO ONE is saying it's perfect as it stands--it is merely the start of a long road of helping Americans get health care). There is no reason to destroy it, especially not by lying about it--instead, work to fix it.
  • ConLibFraud 2012/07/01 17:29:50
    ConLibFraud
    +1
    You people can continue your sheepish conversations and cheap talk and sit on your butts and watch America continue to implode.

    The time for talk of over!!! Get off your sofas and start the revolution ... peacefully!!!

    Here is how ...

    It's time for We The People to take matters into our own hands starting with a nationwide tax revolt, stop paying all bank loans and implement a national plea for our military to come home and rescue their country and put up a fence around DC and call it the National Penitentiary. Then put all of them (politicians and judges) and their bankers on trial and punish them for treason. And a note to the media ... we have special plans for you!
  • Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/07/01 15:54:39 (edited)
    Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +6
    Too many Americans currently think "It can't happen here". But in the near future,a broke and desperate America .With too many Baby Boomers on Social Security & Medicare will prove to be too expensive for the country's budget realities.So,the H&HS; bureaucrats will come up with our own version of "death pathways" to reign in exploding senior citizen "end of life" healthcare costs!



    BTW When Bill Gates is near the end of his life.I have no doubts that he & his family will do everything medically possible to extend his life.Because "money is no object" for important people like him [sarcasm]!
  • LadyBGood Stevern... 2012/07/01 16:23:25
    LadyBGood
    +4
    Absolutely.... he will make sure he has the best medical care money can buy!

    Thought you might like this blog...

    http://durablefaith.com/2012/...
  • mk, Smartass Oracle 2012/07/01 15:44:44
    mk, Smartass Oracle
    +4
    Bill Gates has started smoking crack!
  • Kane Fernau 2012/07/01 15:23:28
    Kane Fernau
    +6
    In Europe your income is taxed at about 65% and they still can't afford socialized medicine.
  • BUCCANE... Kane Fe... 2012/07/01 16:06:10
    BUCCANEER~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +5
    Our taxation is in no way to benefit the people,but it IS for the benefit of th freeloading hierachy of the european jabawoccy
  • Schläue~© 2012/07/01 14:54:17
    Schläue~©
    +1
    You lost me at "Obama/Romney Care"
  • texasred 2012/07/01 14:33:15
    texasred
    +9
    Top doctor's chilling claim: The NHS kills off 130,000 elderly patients every year
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...

    I keep getting told that since this came from The Daily Mail, it's not valid. Of course, The National Enquirer broke the John Edward's Scandal... but that wasn't valid either. Yeah right!
  • BUCCANE... texasred 2012/07/01 16:16:43
  • LadyBGood BUCCANE... 2012/07/01 16:30:08
    LadyBGood
    +3
    It's disgusting that your own nephew took that stance on your health and the health care you are (not) receiving. I thought that it was only here that there was no respect for our Seniors ..but I see it's there too.

    I am sorry this is happening to you and to us! Makes me want to cry!
  • BUCCANE... LadyBGood 2012/07/01 16:34:38
    BUCCANEER~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    Thanks LBG,I like to feel that perhaps he was expressing the opinion of the powers that be more than his own,but it was discomforting nonetheless,although he is more than aware of my extreme right of Genghis Khan attitudes!!!
  • LadyBGood BUCCANE... 2012/07/01 18:12:01
    LadyBGood
    +1
    You are so cool! And you are right...it starts at the top of the chain of power and it tickles down to the masses.
  • BUCCANE... LadyBGood 2012/07/01 19:13:35
    BUCCANEER~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    YEP!!!

    politicians  voters funny
  • LadyBGood BUCCANE... 2012/07/02 00:08:13
  • BUCCANE... LadyBGood 2012/07/02 07:15:27
    BUCCANEER~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Well it's down to us to reverse the roll inv
  • texasred BUCCANE... 2012/07/01 16:40:49
    texasred
    +2
    What an a$$. Most families have one or two. You should have reminded him that one day he'll have three score and ten plus one... and be considered a burden. He won't be so pompous then.
  • CUDDLY ... texasred 2012/07/01 17:50:29
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    +3
    The Daily Mail is the BEST source of domestic USA news available anywhere.

    That's pathetic.
  • texasred CUDDLY ... 2012/07/01 19:06:48
    texasred
    +3
    I think so, too. And they usually report a lot of what's happening here in America before a lot of our media.
  • Pedro Doller ~POTL-PWCM~JLA 2012/07/01 14:31:25
  • Michaelene Pedro D... 2012/07/02 20:07:37
    Michaelene
    +1
    I'm with you, how many people does he employ? How many of those employees are American citizens? His foundation gives more to the world than he does to our schools and poor citizens in America.
    Does Microsoft have a Obama health Tax waiver?
  • Pedro D... Michaelene 2012/07/02 20:34:41
    Pedro Doller ~POTL-PWCM~JLA
    +1
    I bet the do have a tax waiver.
  • debrarae 2012/07/01 14:25:59
    debrarae
    +11
    And never mind that this OUTRAGEOUS TAX is EXEMPTING #ILLEGALS, & killing jobs; while saying (inspite of SCOTUS RULING) that it's nto a TAX!

    http://atr.org/full-list-obam...
  • explore... debrarae 2012/07/01 19:24:34
    explorer1618
    +1
    OH MY -- Please !
  • debrarae explore... 2012/07/02 18:14:19 (edited)
    debrarae
    +1
    A) it's the truth. It's a TAX, and the WH is wrong to #LIE & say it isn't.

    B) If all those taxes are so good for US, why are the Government workers, Unions, legislators & staff NOT being taxed? Why are THEY exempt?
  • Michaelene debrarae 2012/07/02 20:03:11
    Michaelene
    +1
    Yes, it is a tax. Watch their faces how easily they LIE.
    1231 Waivers to date, who knows how many when The Obama Health Tax fully kicks in by 2014?
  • debrarae Michaelene 2012/07/02 20:41:33
    debrarae
    +1
    Too true!

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