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CATHOLICS SUE OBAMA

SunShine 2012/05/21 21:51:04
CNS News) - The Archdiocese of New York, headed by Cardinal Timothy Dolan, the Archdiocese of Washington, D.C., headed by Cardinal Donald Wuerl, the University of Notre Dame, and 40 other Catholic dioceses and organizations around the country announced on Monday that they are suing the Obama administration for violating their freedom of religion, which is guaranteed by the First Amendment to the Constitution.

The dioceses and organizations, in different combinations, are filing 12 different lawsuits filed in federal courts around the country.

The Archdiocese of Washington, D.C. has established a special website--preservereligiousfreedom.org--to explain its lawsuit and present news and developments concerning it.

"This lawsuit is about an unprecedented attack by the federal government on one of America’s most cherished freedoms: the freedom to practice one’s religion without government interference," the archdiocese says on the website. "It is not about whether people have access to certain services; it is about whether the government may force religious institutions and individuals to facilitate and fund services which violate their religious beliefs."

The suits filed by the Catholic organizations focus on the regulation that Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius announced last August and finalized in January that requires virtually all health-care plans in the United States to cover sterilizations and all Food and Drug Administration-approved contraceptives, including those that can cause abortions.

The Catholic Church teaches that sterilization, artificial contraception and abortion are morally wrong and that Catholics should not be involved in them. Thus, the regulation would require faithful Catholics and Catholic organizations to act against their consciences and violate the teachings of their faith.

Earlier, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops had called the regulation an "unprecedented attack on religious liberty" and asked the Obama administration to rescind it.

“We have tried negotiation with the Administration and legislation with the Congress--and we’ll keep at it--but there's still no fix," Cardinal Dolan, who is also president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops said in a statement released by the conference this morning.

"Time is running out, and our valuable ministries and fundamental rights hang in the balance, so we have to resort to the courts now," the cardinal said. "Though the Conference is not a party to the lawsuits, we applaud this courageous action by so many individual dioceses, charities, hospitals and schools across the nation, in coordination with the law firm of Jones Day. It is also a compelling display of the unity of the Church in defense of religious liberty. It's also a great show of the diversity of the Church's ministries that serve the common good and that are jeopardized by the mandate--ministries to the poor, the sick, and the uneducated, to people of any faith or no faith at all.”

Cardinal Dolan's New York Archdiocese filed suit today in the U.S. District Court in the Eastern District of New York. Joining the archdiocese as plaintiffs in the suit are the Catholic Health Care Sytem, the Roman Catholic Diocese of Rockville Centre, Catholic Charities of Rockville Centre, and Catholic Health Services of Long Island.

In their suit, these groups name HHS Secretary Sebelius, Labor Secretary Hilda Solis, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner and their departments as defendants.

The archdiocese of Washington, D.C., is being joined in its lawsuit by Catholic Charities of the Washington Archdiocese, the Consortium of Catholic Academies of the Archdiocese of Washington (which includes four parochial schools), Archbishop Carroll High School, and the Catholic University of America.

"This morning, the Archdiocese of Washington filed a lawsuit to challenge the mandate, recently issued by the Department of Health and Human Services, that fundamentally redefines the nation’s long-standing definition of religious ministry and requires our religious organizations to provide their employees with coverage for abortion-inducing drugs, contraceptives, and sterilization, even if doing so violates their religious beliefs," Cardinal Donald Wuerl of Washington said in an open letter posted online this morning. "Just as our faith compels us to uphold the liberty and dignity of others, so too, we must defend our own."

"The lawsuit in no way challenges either women’s established legal right to obtain and use contraception or the right of employers to provide coverage for it if they so choose," said Cardinal Wuerl. "This lawsuit is about religious freedom."

"The First Amendment enshrines in our nation’s Constitution the principle that religious organizations must be able to practice their faith free from government interference," Cardinal Wuerl said.

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  • teigan flaca BN-0 2012/05/22 03:37:23
    teigan
    +3
    It doesn't matter what women use or don't use, it's the beliefs of the Catholic Church. The government has no right to tell them what they do or do not have to provide. That's interferring with their freedom of religion.
  • flaca BN-0 teigan 2012/05/22 03:52:22
    flaca BN-0
    oh so you're saying that the Church doesn'[t overstep its bounds? Yeah right.....................
  • teigan flaca BN-0 2012/05/22 03:55:19
    teigan
    +3
    What I am saying is that Obama is violating the Constitution by interferring with freedom of religion. Read much? Obama should be impeached for violating his oath of office.
  • SunShine teigan 2012/05/22 06:50:20
    SunShine
    +2
    exactly
  • SunShine flaca BN-0 2012/05/22 06:50:48
    SunShine
    +2
    there you go putting words in other peoples mouths again.. have you no control??
  • Cindy64... SunShine 2012/05/22 14:44:18
    Cindy64~PATRIOT WARRIOR
    +1
    NO Liberals NEVER have control!!!
  • teigan SunShine 2012/05/22 15:08:00
    teigan
    +1
    Where the hell did these people learn how to read? They're always pulling things out of their ass.
  • AL flaca BN-0 2012/05/22 09:25:39
    AL
    +2
    Thats not even the point! Yet this should teach Obama,NOT to be a dope and mess with the pope!
  • none 2012/05/21 22:08:10
    none
    +9
    Good, I hope they win and collect. They have principals to stand up for, too bad Obama has none.
  • Cindy64... none 2012/05/22 14:45:15
    Cindy64~PATRIOT WARRIOR
    +2
    You are 100% so RIGHT about Obama-slime NOT haveing any principals!!!
  • Cal 2012/05/21 22:06:59
    Cal
    +12
    Good for the Catholic Church for standing up in what they believe in, and inadvertently the US Constitution. Religious freedom is a 2 way street.
  • Cindy64... Cal 2012/05/22 04:24:10
    Cindy64~PATRIOT WARRIOR
    +1
    YEP...... thumbs up
  • mal 2012/05/21 22:05:11
    mal
    +8
    vote the communist out people.
  • Cindy64... mal 2012/05/22 04:24:42
  • BigFig#9 2012/05/21 22:00:31
    BigFig#9
    Is absolutely ANY government mandate or protection of rights now 'voluntary' should I believe God commands otherwise... This wasn't even a big deal until the righties agitated the Catholic Church over the issue. The vast majority of Catholic organizations WERE (and ARE) providing birth control already within their health plans so what the heck changed? As long as the Catholic church wants to venture outside of purely religious activities then they need to obey the same rules as the rest of the populous.
  • SunShine BigFig#9 2012/05/21 22:02:40
    SunShine
    +5
    NO THEY DON'T... They answer to someone higher .. much higher than obama..
  • BigFig#9 SunShine 2012/05/21 22:17:21
    BigFig#9
    Then they need to decide not to participate in the general economy and stick to things 'Godly' only.... They've inserted themselves into the real world and need to accept real world rules.
  • SunShine BigFig#9 2012/05/21 22:28:54
    SunShine
    +4
    sorry.. ever heard of separation of church and state??
  • BigFig#9 SunShine 2012/05/21 22:58:38
    BigFig#9
    EXACTLY - Your CHURCH beliefs need to stay in the church and if your church decides they are going to enter NON CHURCH areas of the exconomy they now become subject to state rules...just like they become subject to TAX law just as if they weren't a church.
  • SunShine BigFig#9 2012/05/21 23:25:39
    SunShine
    +5
    NONONONO.. you got it all wrong.......... obama needs to quit telling the Church what they must do that is against their beliefs.. that is what this is about.. why do you say MY church.. I don't care whose church it is..obama cannot demand they do something against their religious beliefs.. well he can..that is what he has done.. and that is why they are suing..that is against their constitutional rights..separation of church and state..
  • Cindy64... SunShine 2012/05/22 04:26:10 (edited)
    Cindy64~PATRIOT WARRIOR
    +1
    RIGHT ON SUNSHINE ...TRUE SO VERY TRUE!! thumbs up
  • sara SunShine 2012/05/22 06:28:12
    sara
    +1
    Didn't u get the Email Obama wants to re-write the constitution & institute the "Obama Rules" so he can be the dictator he envisions himself to be. Americans need to quit dumbing down our country & take a stand for what this country was founded on before our constitutional rights are nothing but a memory
  • SunShine sara 2012/05/23 06:07:39
    SunShine
    that is why we will take the oval office back in November.. and our country.. what is left of it..
  • BigFig#9 SunShine 2012/05/22 15:09:31
    BigFig#9
    We see it completely differently and I'm not sure we can resolve but my basic premise is that WHEN a church chooses to participate in the secular world (Medicine, Education, etc...) then they must abide by secular rules. Priests and Nuns don't need to get offered benefits not in line with the churches teaching but the issue here is secular functions of religious organizations. That's the separation I see. The church is attempting to enforce their religious doctrine on their secular activities....
  • Adam BigFig#9 2012/05/22 18:39:32
    Adam
    +1
    There is nothing constitution that states that a religious institution must abandon their beliefs in the public square.
  • SunShine BigFig#9 2012/05/23 05:32:11
    SunShine
    No ..the church is simply saying that the government has NO RIGHT to make them do anything that is against their religious beliefs.. period.. It is simple and you are making it complicated.. it isn't.
  • BigFig#9 SunShine 2012/05/22 15:36:20
    BigFig#9
    Hey---I'll at least give you props for actually including some measure of thought in your response. The other 5 moronic replies included such cherished pieces of deep analytical conservative thought as 'go suck an egg' and 'you're in for a whoopin'. I disagree with your points and deeply believe that where the church chooses to insert itself in the secular world then it needs to play by secular rules but I at least can understand your position (and it has little to do with 'sucking eggs' or 'whoopins'.
  • Cliff BigFig#9 2012/05/22 00:31:34
    Cliff
    +3
    You da dumbass ain'tcha?
  • Cindy64... Cliff 2012/05/22 04:28:31
    Cindy64~PATRIOT WARRIOR
    +1
    Chiff look what I posted to Bigfig#9 lol lol and he is a dumbass
  • BigFig#9 Cliff 2012/05/22 15:11:05
    BigFig#9
    And you are obviously gifted in analytical and cogent thought as demonstrated in your reply.
  • Cindy64... BigFig#9 2012/05/22 04:27:24
  • BigFig#9 Cindy64... 2012/05/22 15:14:38
    BigFig#9
    Another gifted analystical reply showing a full grasp of all elements of the argument and a thoughtful respect of differing opinions. Bottom line is if the church wishes to participate in the secular world (education, healthcare, etc...) then it must work under secular rules. Otherwise the church can elect to focus itself solely on things spiritual and nobody will force priests or nuns or the like to take healthcare they don't find morally acceptable.
  • Cindy64... BigFig#9 2012/05/22 15:20:27 (edited)
    Cindy64~PATRIOT WARRIOR
    +1
    BUT... Obama has NO right to FORCE something onto someone or a church like he is!!! Obama is acting like a DICTATOR and he thinks he can push his MARXIST WAYS......NO HE CAN NOT!! Obama has..... as he always does inserted his MARXIST beliefs into theirs!!!
  • BigFig#9 Cindy64... 2012/05/22 15:45:57
    BigFig#9
    Marxist - what Marxist beliefs does he have? Marxist and Communist and Socialist and even Nazi seem to be terms thrown at Obama with a very limited understanding of the terms. You can disagree with Obama but any similarities with Marxist dogma (Social, Economic or otherwise) are far fetched. Once again my very simple analysis. Nothing should be forced on the church where it's operating in the spiritual realm. Just like all the other operating requirements for school and hospital standards apply to the secular activities of the church, so too should requirements for how you treat your employees. If the church DOESN'T feel comfortable doing this them the church need not participate in the secular economy although I will say that the Catholic Church in particular has done a very good job in their secular participation in the economy and quite frankly it's their spiritual aspect that has done more harm than has their secular operations.
  • Cindy64... BigFig#9 2012/05/22 15:52:38
    Cindy64~PATRIOT WARRIOR
    +2
    This is what the COMMIE OBAMA has done !! OBAMA IS A COMMIE 100% ANTI-AMERICAN! This is what Obama-slime is doing.... Obama is not trying to lead America forward to recovery, prosperity and strength. Quite the opposite.
    He’s following the script, as closely as he possibly can, known as the"Cloward-Piven Strategy.” That is the strategy of FORCING POLITICAL CHANGE THROUGH ORCHESTRATED CRISIS. The "Cloward-Piven Strategy” is the fast track to hastening the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.
    Out of the chaos, a New Socialist World Order will rise as a Phoenix from the ashes. Remember when he promised to “Fundamentally Change America”, but nobody asked, “TO WHAT?” But I DID for I knew this was what he was going to do!! This is the "WHAT!” And HE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT HE IS DOING destroying America!!! Obama is 100% bent on to destroy America with his mentors, all Socialists and some Communists! They have filled his head more with their caca, witch he had some anyway because he was raised that way of thinking growning up!! By his Father and Mother and also his Grandparents ALL COMMUNISTS!! So Obama took more of the hook, line and sinker!!! . Obama thinks he is bein...





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    This is what the COMMIE OBAMA has done !! OBAMA IS A COMMIE 100% ANTI-AMERICAN! This is what Obama-slime is doing.... Obama is not trying to lead America forward to recovery, prosperity and strength. Quite the opposite.
    He’s following the script, as closely as he possibly can, known as the"Cloward-Piven Strategy.” That is the strategy of FORCING POLITICAL CHANGE THROUGH ORCHESTRATED CRISIS. The "Cloward-Piven Strategy” is the fast track to hastening the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.
    Out of the chaos, a New Socialist World Order will rise as a Phoenix from the ashes. Remember when he promised to “Fundamentally Change America”, but nobody asked, “TO WHAT?” But I DID for I knew this was what he was going to do!! This is the "WHAT!” And HE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT HE IS DOING destroying America!!! Obama is 100% bent on to destroy America with his mentors, all Socialists and some Communists! They have filled his head more with their caca, witch he had some anyway because he was raised that way of thinking growning up!! By his Father and Mother and also his Grandparents ALL COMMUNISTS!! So Obama took more of the hook, line and sinker!!! . Obama thinks he is being so good for America with his"Cloward-Piven Strategy.” !!! .But one main FACT about OBAMA....HE HATES AMERICA ! So he will go along with the Cloward-Piven Strategy.” in his DREAM WORLD thinking he is going good for America! But the FACT remains Obama MADE STATMENTS many times in the past he DOES HATE AMERICA!! OBAMA-SLIME IS SHOWING US THAT PROOF EACH AND EVERY DAY!!!! First to Destroy a Country in One Term.
    First to Bow to Foreign Leaders.
    First to Alienate Isreal, our Friends and all our other ally's.
    First Muslim to Cater to Muslim's, NOT Americans.
    First to Openly Back Unions above Other Workers
    First to Play Golf as Economy Crashes around Him
    America is going broke from all of his SPENDING & SPENDING!!
    He has now raised the debt MORE to trillions !
    And so much more he has done to list..Obama-slime just keeps on going and will NOT STOP
    Till he is KICKED OUT IN 2012 !! AND THAT IS BIG AMEN ON THAT!!! OBAMA WILL BE GONE IN 2012!! America has had ENOUGH!!! MORE>>>>>> .....Obama has increased the debt by 60% in his two plus years. How can you defend that? He has already spent the increased monies for the debt ceiling. ONE DAY. How can you defend that and still blame Bush. Obama has been in office nearly 4 yrs. and HE still blames Bush !!This is Obama's Upon Inauguration: $10,626,877,048...
    As of Aug 4, 2011: $14,564,970,167,709
    In 2.5 yrs Increased: $3,938,093,118,796
    George Bush (8yrs): $4,899,100,310,609
    Obama Added More to National Debt in First 19 Months Than All Presidents from Washington Through Reagan Combined, In the first 19 months of the Obama administration, the federal debt held by the public increased by $2.5260 trillion, which is less than the cumulative total of the national debt held by the public that was amassed by all U.S. presidents from George Washington through Ronald Reagan.
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  • SunShine Cindy64... 2012/05/23 05:53:54
    SunShine
    +1
    great comment Cindy.. thank you..
  • Cindy64... SunShine 2012/05/23 14:55:04 (edited)
    Cindy64~PATRIOT WARRIOR
    Thank you my dear and just stated the TRUTH!!!! Take care dear. As you can see he NEVER replyed back...see they NEVER want to hear the TRUTH!!!!!
  • Cindy64... BigFig#9 2012/05/22 17:10:35
    Cindy64~PATRIOT WARRIOR
    +1
    Go on this also and LEARN something!!!.........
    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...
  • SunShine BigFig#9 2012/05/23 05:45:32
    SunShine
    +1
    No.. they are not.. You truly criticize others for something you don't bother to research yourself.. have you no pride in the words you speak? Obama and his wife both have deep socialist/marxist/communist beliefs.. Please find on internet the speeches of both Michelle and Barack Obama during the 08 campaign and peruse them.. they are full of marxist ideology.. The organization they belonged to... black liberation theology is a marxist and racist organization and even has communists in it's heirarchy.. They were members for over 20 years and attended ..according to the words from obama himself every week to listen to Jeremiah Wright sermons (except for a few weeks when a baby was tiny). They were very close to Jeremiah Wright and Obama said he was the most influential person in his adult life and he held him in high esteem, the family even calling him "Uncle". Obama surrounded himself his whole life (read his books) with marxists, socialists and commies.. His first mentor, Frank Marshall Davis was a black marxist, his grandparents were communists, William Ayers and his wife are marxists, his close friend and manager from chicago is Valerie Jarrett.. another marxist/commie of long standing.. 80 members of the progressive party are registered members of the Socialst party of Amer...


    No.. they are not.. You truly criticize others for something you don't bother to research yourself.. have you no pride in the words you speak? Obama and his wife both have deep socialist/marxist/communist beliefs.. Please find on internet the speeches of both Michelle and Barack Obama during the 08 campaign and peruse them.. they are full of marxist ideology.. The organization they belonged to... black liberation theology is a marxist and racist organization and even has communists in it's heirarchy.. They were members for over 20 years and attended ..according to the words from obama himself every week to listen to Jeremiah Wright sermons (except for a few weeks when a baby was tiny). They were very close to Jeremiah Wright and Obama said he was the most influential person in his adult life and he held him in high esteem, the family even calling him "Uncle". Obama surrounded himself his whole life (read his books) with marxists, socialists and commies.. His first mentor, Frank Marshall Davis was a black marxist, his grandparents were communists, William Ayers and his wife are marxists, his close friend and manager from chicago is Valerie Jarrett.. another marxist/commie of long standing.. 80 members of the progressive party are registered members of the Socialst party of America and some also support the communists. The communists march freely now with the unions and marxists in support of obama and his far left agitators and activists.
    Please go and do your own research.. I have for over 2 years ..

    FOR THE LAST TIME.. THE CHURCH IS OPERATING IN A SPIRITUAL REALM NO MATTER WHAT IT DOES.. GOT IT???
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  • Cindy64... SunShine 2012/05/23 14:56:09
    Cindy64~PATRIOT WARRIOR
    YEP..... true

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