Can you vote for someone who time and time again helped grow Government?

No way!

Are you sure about that? You would never EVER vote for a team that supported those policies? I bet I could convince you otherwise.

You mean like the guy currently running the show in DC? CZar this and Czar that

Him and Romney both.

Right, an isolated sandbox that hasn't started a war with its neighbors since the 19th century and could barely deal with Iraq at its peak is exactly like Nazi Germany in 1939. Just like Saddam was JUST like Hitler and needed to be removed because he definitely had WMDs according to all the people saying "we" need to attack Iran. Give me a break. Haven't you people learned anything from the last 10 years???

Wow, are you truly that ignorant?

There is the issue of Iran gaining nuclear weapons, but I think if instead of spending the resources trying to start a war with them we instead worked on helping them build thorium reactors, then they would have energy and no excuse to refine weapons grade nuclear material.

I don't support those policies and never will. It doesn't matter what options are available, I will never support any candidate that has supported such policies of destructive government.

As an idealistic anarchist I do not support government.

I didn't in 2008 and I won't in November.

May I ask who you're voting for in 2012?

Romney, Obama was totally unqualified in 2008 and should have proved that fact to anyone foolish enough to have voted for him back then.

Oops didn't read that properly before clicking the like button. Oh well. I thought you said you didn't support those policies? I asked if you would vote for someone who supported them and you said no, but then you said you'd vote for Romney. Which is it?

Grow & grow government means raise & raise taxes.

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We'll never make a meaningful dent in the debt without downsizing government -- spending, programs, AND sheer number of employees.

A growing government is a healthy government.

Really? Then why are all the governments that have been growing and spending start to collapse? Why is the EU collapsing? Why are nations that try massive stimulus collapsing? And why are the nations that work on a decentralized approach do so much better?

The EU is collapsing thanks to capitalism and a lack of unity in the EU. Denmark has the biggest welfare state in Europe and an unemployment rate of 2% that means big government works.

The EU isn't working on capitalist principals. The EU is working on hyper-federalist principals combined with a monopolization of currency. The only EU nations that are surviving are those that are using a DECENTRALIZED government approach. Do some research. http://politicoid.blogspot.co...

in biology...
unchecked growth...
is known as cancer-

true but, we aren't suffering from cancer were suffering from necrosis, think of tax dollars as nutrients or government body needs to survive.

necrosis...
as a result of cancer-

cancer loves sugar...btw-

Even though obama did all this, the sheeple still elected him.

Seriously! So who's you're pick this November?

Well, since there is no way you're going to get anyone but obama or Romney, then Romney is your only choice. A second term for obama will mean the sure destruction of America. It might anyway since obama's government is busy buying up hundreds of millions of hollow point bullets to use on the American people. obama has written Executive orders to declare Martial Law and shut down the Internet.

You said that you won't vote for someone who supported those policies. The Romeny/Ryan team supported all of those combined.

obama has some much more devious ideas planned for us.

I didn't ask that; I asked if you can vote for anyone who

1. Supported TARP and begged for it to be passed
2. Voted yes for the first stimulus as well as the auto bailouts
3. Voted yes on NDAA and making the Patriot Act permanent.
4. Created a program that formed the foundation of PPACA with the help of the progressive Ted Kennedy
5. Raised taxes and thereby breaking a major campaign promise.
6. Lied about raising taxes to try to make it look like he kept his promise.
7. Used taxpayer money to fund green energy programs--at least one of which failed.
8. Stated when caught off guard that he would support cap and trade on the global level.

You answered no yet you are going to anyway.

That's why I'm staying true to principle.....

No...there is too much Gov. in the wrong areas, not enough of it where it should be!

I support some of them. It's cheaper to prop up a troubled auto industry for a while than it is the cost of losing the whole industry forever. The cost to America of losing yet another sector of mfg is far greater than the loans they got.

Unfortunately, the GOP is trying to paint Mr. Ryan differently to what he really is. Like Romney, he's turned into a flipflopper.

Romney and Obama are both big government authoritarian candidates. They're both tricking their bases and doing a damn good job at it.

I think this "big govt" argument is a cliche that many people use. Let's look at 50 years ago. Did we need an inland security department? Did we have a constant threat of cyberhacking of not only NASA, CIA, Pentagon but also the Grid, Power Stations etc?
Nope. None of that existed because there were few computers and no internet.
So there are all these new things that have to be regulated, or protected against that never existed in the past. Can we do this job without swelling government?

I get tired of this nicely rounded anti-big govt. argument. It's so conveniently easy to fling up. What we should look at is the truth: how many other jobs does govt. have to contend with today that it didn't in the past and compare their govt. size with ours. Imagine if it was found that today, the ratios prove that we've actually taken on far more with far less expenditure, and we're (GOD FORBID) doing it far more efficiently.

Instead of carping, it would behove us all to think outside this silly mudslinging.

It depends on what programs they expanded. Although obviously I oppose basically all of those (although the stimulus wasn't as bad as the rest). Ryan is just a much smarter and better looking George W Bush.

Everything you listed disqualifies them in my book.

I don't get it....why can't we trade globally? Of course, maybe there should be more exports. I am for green energy programs. I'm for raising of taxes; but for the states not the federal. Federal should lower theirs, I think. (Don't they use a lot of that for defense spending? Including Patriot Act?)

No cap and trade. Cap and trade isn't trading.. it's monetizing carbon emissions which is a horrible idea.