Can you be against Gay marriage and not be Homophobic?

Really? Cause I can see a lot of issues. Overseas partners. Taxes. Say in medical care. The person you love the most cant even see you when you're on the brink of death because they aren't regarded as next of kin. Those are very, very problematic issues. Especially medical care and the petitioning of partners, these can be devastating to a couple.

Again you are using the wrong analogies. Planes and cars are different things. The reason you can't drive one using a license of the other is because you don't have the knowledge to do so.

On the other hand you can't test people on their knowledge of "love" or "partnership." Seperate is not equal as I said. and "Marriage" is the word we use to connotate the union and becoming of one of two different people. Making up a word simply does not retain the same meaning.

Also marriage means a lot of different things to different people, and it is not an issue of morality or religion. It's an issue of the state, which should never mix with religion or personal beliefs. And because the state and the law should be seperated from personal beliefs why should the beliefs of people be taken into account? They aren't being forced into anything. They just have to let others live their lives.

You state: "Really? Cause I can see a lot of issues. Overseas partners. Taxes. Say in medical care. The person you love the most cant even see you when you're on the brink of death because they aren't regarded as next of kin. Those are very, very problematic issues. Especially medical care and the petitioning of partners, these can be devastating to a couple."

The same Government power, that allows these things for "married" people, could empower gay "Fafiano" couples the exact same way. Right?

You state: "Again you are using the wrong analogies. Planes and cars are different things. The reason you can't drive one using a license of the other is because you don't have the knowledge to do so."

And a gay union differs from the current legal definition of marriage as well.
Gay: involves 2 men or 2 women.
Current marriage involves 1 of each sex.

Yes, there ARE similarities between the 2, but differences are why words mean things.
Biscuits, crackers and scones are similar to each other as each contain flour, salt, shortening, and milk, they also involve being heated.
But they are each different, and the difference is reflected in their different names.

The problem with the planes and cars analogy is this:

The married life of one man and one woman function in much the same way as the married life of people of the same gender. There are no new "rules" to navigate. It will not endanger anyone.

When a car driver drives a plane with no qualifications he/she does not know how the plane functions. Therefore crashes and other accidents may happen which may cause injury and loss of life.

Now the problem with "marriage" is that the term, and the conditions of this term, has actually changed quite often. From the polygamous marriages in the old testament to the monogamous marriages of the new testament to the way marriage was also defined under "coveture" in the 17th century (where the man and the woman become one person and that person is the man. All rights and properties goes to the man) to equality within the marriage to interracial marriage.

We've redefined "marriage" so many times. And yet to this day it is still called "marriage." We don't call interracial marriages a different name to marriages of the same race. We call it marriage. Because its the exact same thing. Except for race. In the same way gay marriage is still marraige. Except the difference is in gender.

If they want to get married, they should be able to so they can receive the same benefits that straight couples do. I dont necessarily think you are a homophobe, but why should you even care? It doesnt affect your life.

Possible but not likely!

For the record I am for Gay Marriage. I just think generalizing a whole bunch of people that you have no idea what they believe, just because they subscribe to one party, out of a two party system.......is extremely retarded. It's a fallacy.

Of course, "homophobe" is a made-up, childish term IMO. The term homophobe was made up to make people who disagree with homosexual relationships and choices sound like bad people. I'm against gay marriage, in fact I hate homosexual acts. But there is a large difference between hating an act and hating a person. I'll put it in very simple terms. When you were a child I am sure you did plenty acts that your parents HATED and you got in trouble for it, but even though they hated the act, they STILL love you!

I'll throw in another tid-bit, one of my closest friends on this site is gay but he is also against gay marriage. Do you think he's a homophobe? Hmmm

No i dont...'homophbic' is a lable attached to straight people by the gay community...and what if a gay person hates straight people...what is he/she?????
or does the term only apply to straight people???

Yes i do belive that you cant be...if people say you are,that means every person that disagrees with something is some kind of 'bic' or 'ist'...there is nothing wrong with freedom of speech,and nobody has the right to stop you,by giving you some sort of lable

Well put! Thank you

Liberals are intolerant and do not tolerate freedom of speech unless you agree with them

my bad i meant to say no !!! my bad

So everyone against gay marriage is a homophobe? Do you REALLY believe that?

wait I'm confussed!!!! I'm for gay marrige....

So? That means anyone who's against gay marriage is a homophobe?

What am I spposed to know what EVERY ONE IN THE WORLD thinks??? Geeez Trey no need to be such a jerk... I was aying my opinion and you go all detective on me!!!!!My opinion is that I'm for gay marrige and I'm not a homophobe!!!!! Just cause your against it don't mean every body elese has to be!!!! geeez !!!

For one I didn't do any of those things, I asked a simple question. I never said everyone has to be against gay marriage. My question had nothing to do with that. If you read the poll question it says "Can you be against gay marriage and not be homophobic?" and you said "no". By answering no to that question you're saying that only homophobes are against gay marriage.

Yeah well i actually said yes at first the I got confussed!!!! my bad!! every one makes mistakes!!! ven you know that!!!!! Or don't you remember? oh well wo cares I'm over it i'm over trying to be nice to you and you throwing it back in my face!!! good bye!!!!

All I did was ask if you really believe that anyone against gay marriage is a homophobe. That is all.

And i answered......what more do you want?

In my opinion Homophobia is a word created by the far left to prohibit free speech, The question was intended to reveal the brainwashed liberals and it did just that

huh?

That's how the G/L groups control your opinion---they tag you. It's page one in the Liberal handbook

Yes you could. But you would also have to come up with a reasonable alternative that served the needs of both gays and Christians.

Most of those I see against gay marriage stop there and don't want any kind of equality.

by definition Homophobic means afraid if a homo. why would i be afraid of something that wants to put my member in its mouth and make me feel good? it 's just gross. not scary at all.

If it's against your religion or something.

Nobody who's homophobic says they're homophobic. It's a really difficult condition to self-diagnose. Like ignorance.

Depends on your reasoning. "It's unnatural" would be homophobia.

I feel natural is what is common and occurs frequently in all species on Earth.

Do you believe homosexuality is 'natural'? Stating that isn't would mean, in your opinion, it's not common and doesn't occur frequently in all species of nature (it does occur in over 400 species, but not all. Very few traits extend completely through ALL of nature, and yet we consider them 'natural').

1500 not 400 have homosexuality in them

Oh, my bad. I read the facts from an out-dated book a few years ago and hadn't bothered to check my information. Thanks for the update! ^.^

Almost nothing occurs in all species on Earth.

By that definition, marriage itself is "unnatural" as no other species marry, even though some species mate for life.

That is quite correct, but then again, almost every aspect of humanity is 'unnatural'.

True.

I don't really understand why else someone would be against gay marriage. It's not like it harms anyone.

I believe the problem that most people opposed to "gay marrige" has, is with the actual word "marriage" being used to denote the union.

Maybe a different *word* could be selected to eleminate that issue.
What do you think?

Personally, I don't think homosexuals should need another word to denote their union. They fall in love just like heterosexuals so I think they should be able to call their union a marriage. But that's just my opinion.

People who don't want homosexuals to call their union a marriage should really just mind their own business. Why should they care what another couple calls their union?

That being said, the name of the union isn't as big of a deal as making sure that the union provides the same rights as a heterosexual marriage.

You state: "Personally, I don't think homosexuals should need another word to denote their union."

At a house I once owned, there was fair size oak tree in the path that I wanted for the driveway.

It was *MY* land, it was *MY* drive, it was even *MY* tree: I had EVERY RIGHT to simply cut the tree down an do as I wished.
Instead, I simply drove AROUND the nice tree.

You state: "That being said, the name of the union isn't as big of a deal as making sure that the union provides the same rights as a heterosexual marriage."

ABSOLUTELY!
That's been my point: Name's a problem? Call it something else.
Rights and PROTECTION under the law is #1!