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Can we trust our government?

Tasine 2012/06/01 14:50:58
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Top administration officials cut backroom deals with the nation’s top drug companies to win support for President Obama’s health care overhaul, threatening them with steeper taxes if they resisted and promising a better financial deal for the industry if they acquiesced, according to internal documents released Thursday by House Republicans.

In some of the key deals, Mr. Obama agreed to drop his long-standing support for letting Americans buy cheaper foreign prescription drugs — something the pharmaceutical industry vehemently opposed — and the drugmakers promised to mount a public campaign to sell the public on the health care legislation.
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If you or I did the same thing, the Dept. of Justice would haul us in for blackmail. But according to this graph in the article:
Administration officials have denied that they negotiated directly with PhRMA, instead saying it was Senate Democrats who brokered the agreement.

But Republicans said their findings contradict the White House and confirm what the GOP has long contended: that the White House bypassed members of its own party to iron out specific details with the drug companies.

The White House didn’t respond to requests for comment, but congressional Democrats defended the deal-making, saying it was no different from what had been done for major legislation under previous presidents. (I believe this statement, and I'm mad as hell about it).

When the President and/or his Party (whatever Party that may be) strike deals to force through legislation by cutting the opposing party completely out of the discussion and planning, it SHOULD BE TREATED AS ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, AND THE PARTIES INVOLVED SHOULD BE IMPEACHED.

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  • WLIAM ROGERS 2014/04/20 04:11:06
    NO, and the reasons are ......
    WLIAM ROGERS
    +1
    Let me make this perfectly clear. Our government, broke treaty after treaty with the Indians, who were the original inhabitants of this country, lied, cheated and just plain stole their lands.
    So what do you think ?
  • Kat ♪ ~BTO-t-BCRA-F~ ♪ 2012/06/06 14:45:17
    NO, and the reasons are ......
    Kat ♪ ~BTO-t-BCRA-F~ ♪
    +2
    The government is an entity unto itself, lording over the taxpayers like little demigods.
    The 3 letter agencies are terrorizing our citizens while terroristic racists hurl murderous vitriol all over the internet and social media for all to see and get a pass.
    Trust our government, I'd rather trust a large angry Diamondback Rattler, he might or might not bite.
  • Whitney Kendall 2012/06/06 14:07:18
    Undecided
    Whitney Kendall
    +3
    the government are some sneaky mo-fos but I have no proof of that... thats just what i believe... :p
  • baxter 2012/06/06 09:49:10
    NO, and the reasons are ......
    baxter
    +2
    Thay say things they are going to do but when the time comes they dont do it thats why i dont vote four them
  • Bozette 2012/06/03 06:36:58
    NO, and the reasons are ......
    Bozette
    +5
    Well now, let's see...big pharma, big ag, big banks and big business are in bed with the government (making nasty little babies, some of which are known as "0bamacare", "Bailouts" and "Stimulus"); our liberties are being traded for a false sense of national security via the PA, the HSA, the NDAA and numerous EOs and NDs; the government doesn't feel we can make our own decisions on what to eat and so destroys perfectly good and healthy organic food, raw milk, cheeses and livestock; and they are signing away our national sovereignty one UN treaty at a time...nope, cannot trust 'em!
  • Tasine Bozette 2012/06/03 13:04:24
  • Bozette Tasine 2012/06/03 18:02:25
    Bozette
    +1
    Thank you, Tasine.
  • Tasine Bozette 2012/06/04 02:43:18
    Tasine
    +1
    Por nada, my friend.
  • Latti Ice Ganga Gangsta of ... 2012/06/03 06:18:40
    NO, and the reasons are ......
    Latti Ice Ganga Gangsta of PHAET
    +2
    Russia is backing up the Assad in Syria and America wants to back up the opposition; with more guns. The chaos in The Middle East is being backed up by many in the Western world yet that isn't being discussed. Innocent people are being slaughtered; women and children. There have been many Americans with their flippant attitude stating why don't those people over throw their government. Well that is impossible when Russia, America, France, etc...are giving tanks to the bad guys.


    Since the 1960's American has been selling weapons to the Middle East. Since 2000; it increased to 50% of our military weaponry going to Middle Eastern governments and regimes. America, Russia, France etc.. are keeping the chaos in the Middle East going and only a few will be benefiting from this. It won't be Americans, our soldiers or the innocent people being slaughtered by our weapons who are benefiting.






  • Latti I... Latti I... 2012/06/03 06:46:33
  • Tasine Latti I... 2012/06/03 13:06:32
    Tasine
    +2
    But look how Ron Paul is treated by the press by fellow Congressmen, by progressives. You'd think he is the devil for not wanting us in constant war.
  • Latti I... Tasine 2012/06/03 15:54:39
    Latti Ice Ganga Gangsta of PHAET
    +2
    Anything that threatens the current system gets stoned. The people at the very top want Americans to fight each other over trivial things, which always leads to them winning. Romney is just an Obama 2. He has the exact same stances as Obama and only changed his position on things in recent times. He was for Tarp, Big Pharma, the Bailouts, the Stimulus package and the list goes on.

    None of the mainstream media is showing this or talking about how horrid Romney will be, because they want n imagery of something different. Well, Romney is anything but that.
  • Tasine Latti I... 2012/06/03 17:23:41
    Tasine
    +2
    Good reason to vote Ron Paul, or if he isn't available, Gary Johnson would be outstanding. Voting is a matter of principle, and I wish people would vote their principle rather than their party - we'd get better officials that way.
  • Latti I... Tasine 2012/06/03 17:27:20
    Latti Ice Ganga Gangsta of PHAET
    +2
    One of the two is going to get my vote; which ever one is still running by November I will vote for.
  • prosperhappily 2012/06/03 05:55:34
    NO, and the reasons are ......
    prosperhappily
    +3
    Not just no, HELL NO!

    I'm just waiting for the day when they say "Screw the bill of rights. You have no rights. We are going to do whatever the hell we want. You are going to pay for it. If you complain or resist, you're going someplace very unpleasant. Or, maybe we'll just kill you or your loved ones."
  • Bozette prosper... 2012/06/03 06:38:14
    Bozette
    +2
    It's not looking like you'll have much longer to wait.
  • prosper... Bozette 2012/06/03 16:44:46
    prosperhappily
    +2
    Probably not.
  • Libertys Martyr 2012/06/03 05:36:44
    NO, and the reasons are ......
    Libertys Martyr
    +4
    I don't have the energy to lay it all out here... but the state is getting involved in every aspect of our lives and the now the special interests run the show. It's a dangerous combination.
  • johnpaul 2012/06/03 01:05:12
    NO, and the reasons are ......
    johnpaul
    +2
    Because they hurt people without cause.
  • Gregaj7 2012/06/02 23:15:32
    NO, and the reasons are ......
    Gregaj7
    +3
    It's not designed for that, since 1861.
  • Charles R. Anderson 2012/06/02 10:06:36
    NO, and the reasons are ......
    Charles R. Anderson
    +6
    It is called extortion and the federal government routinely extorts American businesses. We have a government of special interests and professional politicians, because the government is too big for the People to understand what it is doing and for them to figure out how to control it. It is absolutely essential to slash government spending, regulations, and the scope of government if we are to ever have competent, constitutional, and sustainable government.
  • Tasine Charles... 2012/06/02 12:53:18
    Tasine
    +3
    Exactly. As it turns out, the Administration blackmailed the pharmaceutical companies to support the Obamacare legislation, not that anyone is surprised anymore at their street gang mentality. Instead of being cowed, how I wish they had not been cowed, but had instead been mad enough to shout it from the rooftops.
  • Charles... Tasine 2012/06/14 06:00:12
    Charles R. Anderson
    +1
    That would have been wonderful.

    The government also forced many healthy banks to take TARP money so they could hide which of the banks were really in trouble. The healthy banks then had to pay the money back with interest, which helped the government to hide much of the money that was lost. Eventually, those who were interested could learn about this, but few Americans are aware of it to this day. Bank of America was virtually forced to take over Merrill Lynch and it was deceived by the government into thinking Merrill Lynch was much less sick than it was. This caused B of A to become very unhealthy itself.
  • S and S 2012/06/02 02:16:03
  • Ken 2012/06/02 01:09:38
    NO, and the reasons are ......
    Ken
    +3
    Just look at our country.
  • mobius 2012/06/02 01:05:43
    Yes, and here's why .....
    mobius
    +5
    Sure, you can trust them to get fatter and more bloated, more repressive and vicious as people wake up, and more and more blatant about feeble lies that no one who is not medicated by them would believe.

    Nothing to see here. Move it along.
    Fred
    MOLON LABE
  • Gracie - Proud Conservative 2012/06/02 00:50:57
    NO, and the reasons are ......
    Gracie - Proud Conservative
    +6
    You can never trust government, that's why a free market and freedom are necessary.
  • Teri- Oregon 2012/06/02 00:48:31
    NO, and the reasons are ......
    Teri- Oregon
  • Captain Kirk~POTL 2012/06/02 00:32:21
    NO, and the reasons are ......
    Captain Kirk~POTL
    +6
    Absolutely NOT,never have,never will!!
  • dragonfliez 2012/06/01 21:53:49
    NO, and the reasons are ......
    dragonfliez
    +5
    pretty much everything they do and have done for the last 30 years
  • Bozette dragonf... 2012/06/03 06:41:28
    Bozette
    +1
    It goes back much farther than that.
  • Mel the Witch POTL PWCM~JLA 2012/06/01 20:28:33
    NO, and the reasons are ......
    Mel the Witch POTL PWCM~JLA
    +8
    We can not trust the Government, You are a fool if you do...
  • tommyg - POTL- PWCM-JLA 2012/06/01 19:47:10
    NO, and the reasons are ......
    tommyg - POTL- PWCM-JLA
    +7
    Every citizen should deal with their government with a healthy dose of skepticism.
  • Striker 2012/06/01 19:16:46
    NO, and the reasons are ......
    Striker
    +7
    My very short-list:
    Where are the monies which are supposed to be in the SS "Trust Fund"? Answer: Lent by "the laws" to the Treasury Department, which spent it all and added over now-15 trillion in debt which Gov claims YOU and I owe.
    Doesn't inspire trust, that's for sure.
  • Tasine Striker 2012/06/01 19:18:19
    Tasine
    +5
    Our government has so totally eroded our system of both government and economics, we may never recover - and if we rely on the ones who ruined it to repair it, we may as well all just die.
  • Striker Tasine 2012/06/01 19:52:32
    Striker
    +4
    Ouch! Die, that's way too depressing for me! We have some life still before us, so...

    Let's keep on living and keep trying to get our friends to line up for Liberty! We do see every now and then someone who has come to "get it"!
  • Andy 2012/06/01 15:38:16
    Undecided
    Andy
    +5
    We have to to a point... but, there has always been issues of concern. Not just today, but over the past 200+ years... but that is expected when you deal with imperfect people running the program!!
  • Striker Andy 2012/06/01 19:55:05
    Striker
    +4
    Can we expect anything better when only imperfect people exist to Govern us?
  • ordman 2012/06/01 15:32:13
    NO, and the reasons are ......
    ordman
    +7
    James Madison said it best.
    "I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations."
  • Tasine ordman 2012/06/01 15:52:03
    Tasine
    +5
    Yes, that is how socialism usually starts. Pass one law that takes away a freedom. If it gets by without too much screaming, then pass another that surpasses the first one, etc., etc. ad nauseum. I have pretty much reached the limit of what I plan to accept. I accept no further laws unless it is a law to ban all laws past and present.

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