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Can Morality be Effectively Legislated by State or Federal Governments? How?

Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET 2012/07/03 16:36:58
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I contend morality cannot be successfully legislated. People will gamble, people will seek out hookers, people will find their pleasures.
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  • KeithL 2013/01/25 17:01:31
  • Xerxes,... KeithL 2013/01/25 19:31:14
    Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET
    +1
    I agree
  • Mr. Stark 2012/07/04 07:02:00
    None of the above
    Mr. Stark
    +1
    Laws are meant to be an extension and application of morality - not a method to create it. It is simply a manifestation. This can be seen throughout the Old Testament. This can also be seen throughout a lot of history. The ebbs and flows in allowing abortion (Rome), vs not (Vatican), or allowing homosexual activity. Allowing divorces. Regulating sex. Morality is mean to facilitate survival, laws are meant to enforce morality - ultimately attempting to solidify survival. Whether or not you believe in God, and God sanctioned morality - it's all an attempt to maintain our existence. One can't leave morality at the door when creating laws. This, of course, is all very philosophical.
  • Xerxes,... Mr. Stark 2012/07/04 13:55:38
    Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET
    +1
    Enjoyed reading it, Thank You
  • TheCouchF*cker 2012/07/03 22:54:19
    No, It Cannot, Because.........
    TheCouchF*cker
    +1
    Laws are not magic. They prevent nothing.
  • Xerxes,... TheCouc... 2012/07/03 23:29:04
    Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET
    Interesting view, Thank You
  • Tinka123 2012/07/03 22:10:15 (edited)
    No, It Cannot, Because.........
    Tinka123
    +1
    It's impossible to prevent humans from acting in what is quintessentially their* nature. Besides - laws don't "prevent behavior," they punish it.
  • Xerxes,... Tinka123 2012/07/03 22:10:45
    Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET
    +1
    Thank you
  • Tinka123 Xerxes,... 2012/07/03 22:15:05
    Tinka123
    +1
    You're most welcome :)
  • HipJipC 2012/07/03 21:11:26
    None of the above
    HipJipC
    +1
    It can but only to a point. Moral issues mostly lie within a person or they don't. If an individual is incapable of moral behavior no state or federal government can change that no matter what legislature they enact. The proof is in our prisons.
  • Xerxes,... HipJipC 2012/07/03 21:14:22
    Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET
    Thank you
  • Andrew 2012/07/03 20:59:54 (edited)
    No, It Cannot, Because.........
    Andrew
    +1
    I don't believe it can! Government however, does have the responsibility to legislate some morality. For example, it is immoral to steal or murder and we expect that government will legislate against those acts. Now, we have government legislating against religion stating that Christians cannot pray in schools or displays of Bible passages cannot be set up on government property. Seems to me, the anti-Christian left is willing to legislate their morality in opposition to the Constitution just as they accuse Christians of legislating their morality!
  • Xerxes,... Andrew 2012/07/03 21:07:16
    Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET
    +1
    Thank You
  • Nimitz 2012/07/03 19:39:34
    No, It Cannot, Because.........
    Nimitz
    +1
    That it cannot, however, doesn't mean the state or federal governments won't try.
  • Xerxes,... Nimitz 2012/07/03 19:49:06
    Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET
    +1
    Thank You
  • joy 2012/07/03 19:25:29 (edited)
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    joy
    +1
    My father used to work in child protection here in the UK during the 1970's. He told me of a case about a young terrified boy, who on a technicality, was to be returned to his thug of a Father. The Father had satisfied the courts requirements by not being arrested, or drinking etc but this kid had no wish to be re-introduced to the misery he had briefly escaped during a spell in care where he had flourished. My Dad's Boss stood up and yelled as much at the Magistrate telling him it would be immoral to do so. The Magistrate was furious, and had him sent down for 2 days for his outburst, telling him " This is a court of law, NOT MORALITY" !



    The law does not deal in, and does not care about the morality of any case, horrible but true.
  • Xerxes,... joy 2012/07/03 19:49:54
    Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET
    Thank You
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/07/03 19:25:17
    No, It Cannot, Because.........
    jackolantyrn356
    +1
    Try a look at the anti drinking and the pro drinking amendments
  • Xerxes,... jackola... 2012/07/03 19:50:14
    Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET
    Thanks
  • Dwight PWCM 2012/07/03 18:31:06
    Yes, Of Course, Here is how....
    Dwight PWCM
    +1
    By taxing the inactivity of not being moral.

    Of course, we'll have to leave it to a board of unelected government employes to decide just how moral we each have to be, and to set the standards for moral participation we'll all have to participate in.

    Anyone determined to not be moral will have to pay a fine/tax.
  • Xerxes,... Dwight ... 2012/07/03 19:10:34
    Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET
    +1
    Interesting, Thank You
  • KrSpo 2012/07/03 18:04:39
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    KrSpo
    +1
    Morality is not something tangible.
  • Xerxes,... KrSpo 2012/07/03 19:10:56
    Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET
    +1
    Thank You
  • Jiorgia 2012/07/03 17:55:18
    Undecided
    Jiorgia
    +1
    Who's morality?
    yours or mine, his or hers, theirs or ours?
  • Xerxes,... Jiorgia 2012/07/03 17:56:05
    Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET
    Morality in general
  • Jiorgia Xerxes,... 2012/07/03 17:59:19
    Jiorgia
    +1
    Morality is too subjective to legislate.
    Which is why we have ethics :)
  • Xerxes,... Jiorgia 2012/07/03 19:11:33
    Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET
    +1
    Interesting, Thank you
  • mich52 2012/07/03 17:52:24
  • Xerxes,... mich52 2012/07/03 17:53:34
    Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET
    Thank You
  • boneman1 mich52 2012/07/03 19:53:56
    boneman1
    +1
    They may claim to be Christians, but if they're immoral odds of them truly being a Christian are slim. Alot of people talk the talk, but few walk the walk.
  • mich52 boneman1 2012/07/03 20:58:20
  • tblackb 2012/07/03 17:44:59
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    tblackb
    +1
    manipulated
  • Xerxes,... tblackb 2012/07/03 17:54:14
    Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET
    Thank You, not sure I understand
  • tblackb Xerxes,... 2012/07/03 18:27:43
    tblackb
    +2
    morality is different for everyone. thus with the savvy use of a word here or there you can manipulate what is viewed moral or not. i.e. ask someone would they work for Budweiser knowing that they make a product that could cause someone to die. Morally its the wrong thing to do but answers and opinions can be manipulated to justify a particular need (survival).
  • Xerxes,... tblackb 2012/07/03 19:12:26
    Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET
    Interesting, Thank You
  • Yuki ~ ♦Lion King of PHÆT♦ 2012/07/03 17:42:53
    No, It Cannot, Because.........
    Yuki ~ ♦Lion King of PHÆT♦
    +1
    Everyone's very concept of morality is different and nuanced.

    We can and should only legislate stuff that is beneficial to the health and liberty of people as a whole, and balance the two accordingly.
  • Xerxes,... Yuki ~ ... 2012/07/03 17:43:41
    Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET
    +1
    Thank you
  • ♒ßεllεchεvεllε®♒ 2012/07/03 17:39:28
    No, It Cannot, Because.........
    ♒ßεllεchεvεllε®♒
    +1
    it feeds natural rebels. you know the type....people who have to think it's "their idea".
  • Xerxes,... ♒ßεllεc... 2012/07/03 17:42:51
    Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET
    +1
    Thank You
  • ☆ElenaDiamond☆ 2012/07/03 17:37:50
    No, It Cannot, Because.........
    ☆ElenaDiamond☆
    +1
    Sadly you are correct. You cannot legislate morality. You can only lead by example and live your own life.

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