Can Liberals and Conservatives Come Together To Fight Agenda 21?

Stocking up is a sure fire way to make you dead. Because you then become a target. You need to be able to live off the land and move on, This is the only way to survive being mobile means you do not have to defend a indefensible position.

I think the door was opened long before him. But no I don't blame one side honestly. I came here in 08 and maybe my focus has not shown that but believe me I KNOW - I watch and I have been against this regardless of who is at the helm. And whether one wears a Rep, Dem, Progressive label means nothing to me. Actions speak louder than words or labels.

True it was started a long time ago even the bible speaks of it in the last days . I should have said the introduction of the NWO to the Americans people . My bad .

World domination is not a new idea at all. But until the last couple hundred years or so the means to achieve it in full were not really in place. Thanks to transportation, communication and organizations like the more recent UN - it is all falling into place that it is now an achievable goal. The one thing we have going for us is that there is a whole heck of a lot more of us than them. Now if only more people understood the implications of it and knew what was being done to them right in front of their faces but that they do not see.

Problem If you are talking about the masses, The Progressive label applies to at least 60% of the Democrats and 98% of the politicians in the Democrat Party. So that leaves maybe 30% of awake people. I do not say that is enough to warrant a reaching out from the conservative movement.

I started watching the video John posted here from Rosa and she makes it clear up front the Dem party has been taken over and she wants it back. I grew up in a Dem family. My mom will be 80 this year and she is a life long Dem. She and her friends are fully aware that the party doesn't represent them anymore. But they won't switch parties - she says she would rather stay in and vote against the worst ones in the primaries. I just hope there are people who like my mom, and like Rosa see what has happened to the party and will work to change it back. I don't know if it is possible but education is key.

That is sure an uphill battle and I wish them luck! The NWO does not give up very easily!

No and look who they put in the white house this time! Can it get any worse?

Not really but suffice it to say one faction is losing to another inside the NWO.

Thanks for mentioning that - so many people don't see the competing factions. I do. I've known of them for quite some time. Like I said elsewhere, a friend of mine who used to run with the international bankers on a large scale recently told me, we already have globalism. The question is, who will be at the helm and which direction will it head in - towards freedom or slavery.

Unfortunately, Slavery is the direction of all the factions. The only difference is the rate of getting there.

why would liberals fight it? they are FOR it...

I think Rosa makes a distinction between liberals and progressives. And I give her a lot of credit for her attempts to inform liberals so that they might truly understand the nature of this beast. But I agree with you that as of right now this has primarily been a fight of the conservatives.

If not there will be no country to fight for - normally Liberals have been the loud mouthed watchdogs ... in the past 10 years they have let themselves be led into whatever their "leadership" wants. People better wake up. WATCH the video.This is NOT a conspiracy THEORY it is real.

To me it seems like both sides have been guilty of falling asleep when "their own" is at the helm. For example I railed against the patriot act and all of my conservative friends initially reacted as if I had lost my mind. Now most of them are seeing the dangers of it but look how long it took. And now that has not only been extended but also worsened by legislation like NDAA. Hopefully people like Rosa will help wake up the liberals to the dangers of this Agenda. It will take all of us to prevent this from becoming the future of America.

Even when you know what Agenda 21 is - it is too unbelievable to accept that it is really taking place. Many of the initiatives that are in place and working have the appearance of 'good things.' Too many people are incapable of research and unfortunately - too few have the ability to communicate what they know, in a way that others can comprehend.

I have tried and failed many times. The Stimulus has massive amounts of Agenda 21 "enablers" incorporated in it. The funding and structures of these initiatives are seemingly vague and are implemented in many different and unrelated pieces of legislation. The Board or Commission to run "this and that" set up in one bill, the funding set up in another, the upper command structure, to include the President of the United States, by executive order, in another, and the actual initiative in another, so that it is almost impossible to relate and connect how it is being funded and what the command structure is - along with WHAT it is. It is rarely if ever actually CALLED Agenda 21.

It is an extremely complex issue and this woman in the video has done her homework. Go to her website and watch and read all you can .. then go forth armed with your own common sense and see - reality.

You are so right about all of that. I've been aware of and posting on Agenda 21 for a long time now. But for some odd reason I had not heard of Rosa before. So I was glad to find this video of a "left right" interview showing that both sides do have a common enemy. I definitely will be looking more into her work. Thanks Unicorn Lady

Hmm , you say " both sides " are falling asleep then you go on to saying " wake up the liberals " . Can you see how you just made a separation ? You want them to unite but you only blamed the libs in your final statement . This is why I dont take one side over the other side .

Well thanks for pointing that out - this is how I see it. The dems are so fully overwhelmed by progs that I don't know if there is a hope for that party at all. The Reps are also infiltrated but I see hope for that party with the REAL not the GOP hijacked TEA party types and the Libertarians and Independents. I think of myself as an independent although I had to join a party in my state which doesn't allow voting in primaries unless one of your own party members is running. So I picked one - and in the beginning I picked one that I wanted to vote against the worse ones in the primaries and to me at that time it was the Reps. Up until then I had been a lifelong Dem voter more or less although not a party line voter as much as that was just my heritage. So if I make a distinction then I do so feeling that at the current time the dems are about to the point of saturation of no return. The reps hold some hope for supporting freedom although I do not know if it is enough.

The liberals are spearheading this Agenda at the moment.. they are in control. Do I see a huge noise from the RNC or the House about this ... no. You are right to define this - the devisions are real. However, point made - move on to defining Agenda 21.

The woman .. the blond in this video is a liberal. So far she has been the most clear voice on this and if you go to her site you will learn.. then go forth on your OWN and learn further. Both sides are fighting this.

You would do better to fixate on Agenda 21 instead of he said she said.... focus. :)

It is not about right and left - it is about totalitarianism on a scale never before seen. Many of the "players" are well intentioned, well meaning fools. Who is "running" this? Honestly, I do not know. I just know that at the moment it is HIGH on the Progressive agenda to get Agenda 21 in place. For all I know it was high on the Right's list when they were in power. I do not know. This did not just happen since Obama, he is just continuing this with a vigor never before seen.

It effectively removes sovereignty. Makes right and left irrelevant.

I agree . I was just pointing out that you cant come together pointing the finger .

I'll try to keep that in mind in the future.

When adversity happens - those who get things done do not wait to come together. They do not form committees and organizations - they act. They don't ask for political affiliation they work together on a common goal.

Organizations and committees may form but they are not the driving force. Think about this. You know it is true. Look at the Libertarian "organization" as evidence of what I am saying. Stopping Agenda 21 should be, and perhaps is, one of the driving inspirations for Libertarians. Agenda 21 negates the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and all laws. Agenda 21 negates the existence and sovereignty of the United States.

The political structure in this country has been redesigned to solely deceive the general public for the profits of politicians and lobbyist. Both sides are cooperating in the construction of a one world government. This entire political arena is nothing more than a circus.

Thanks for your comment. I think on many levels it is not much more than a show of smoke and mirrors that has enslaved it's citizens to pay for it's sins against them. I"ve had the experiences in my life that have put me in close connections to Federal Politicians. The one thing I will say that goes against that grain is that elected individuals do vary and some of them can look out for us but we don't have enough of them working for the circus! How to get them in there is the challenge if it already isn't too late. A friend of mine who used to be affiliated with international bankers recently told me. We already have globalization. The only question is who will be at it's helm and in which direction will it go - to enslave or to free.

The last sentence there ... that is the crux of it and WHY so many who do know what it is are FOOLED. It COULD free us. You are never free when someone has a chain around your neck.

So true and with the media acting to dumb us all down and keep us hypnotized with focus on the totally unimportant things in life, it takes a really strong person to be able to wake up until it is too late.

The inherent problem in this country is that our people obtain at least seventy percent of their information from television. Those political officials who have our best interest at heart are often enough not at the center of attention. Ron Paul for instance was completely blacked out by the media cartels. Our federal government believes we are to big to fail. The truth is, we fell a long time ago, we just haven't hit the ground yet.

I hear ya - I don't watch TV or read the lame stream printed news unless someone sends me something or I just stumble upon something like this video. I thought it showed some hope that both "sides" could have an interview like this over such an important subject. - Paul doesn't fit the left right paradigm so he was never one to take a position in their "play" on TV news. I have long supported many things that Paul stands for. Since I have been studying the Corporation of America - vs the Raw Constitution and looking at sovereignty rights and sovereign citizenship I have learned much! No we fell many years ago and even before the Fed Reserve was formed. Can we stop it? I don't know but I keep saying if there is any hope at all it will be through educating others. If I can reach just one person then I've increased my efforts by 100 % and so on. It is worth it - freedom and what America "stands for" is worth it.

"Can we stop it?"

We can always stop it - we say no. We wake up we refuse to accept it - we say no. Enough wake up - enough say no - and it is stopped. This is true at any point along the way, even if all of their goals are accomplished.

How do we get to 'no' - through education - keep up the great work, Safari. :)

[one hint: keep in mind they are hiding in plain sight.]

Well that is what I am banking on or else I'd just be at the beach counting the waves. lol - But do I really KNOW it is possible - I wish I did. What is helpful are the groups that are aware of how it is being implemented on the local levels and fighting it there also. That is how so much of it sneaks in.

And thanks!

But I have to say, - I don't really get what you mean by they are hiding in plain site in terms of what you are referencing here. ??

The information is out there in plain sight. You have to connect the dots but it is not hidden it is part of public record. It is part of our laws - the Stimulus effectively is implementing the LOST treaty. That is huge. Does it say section 465: Implementation of the LOST treaty? NO. You have to connect the dots through about 5 different bills that the democrats passed unread to put it together. It is right there in plain sight. That is just ONE thing. The treaty gets implemented without approval - without debate.

It is like following a flowchart of a computer program.

They say Cass Sunstein resigned...... just what is he going to be doing... ? This is important. and this is from huffpo.. soooooo.... ;)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com...

ok gotcha - you are so right about that. And they spread those dots out so the pattern is not very evident to any who aren't really looking for them. Thanks for the link! I was wondering about Cass too -

It isn't a lib or con thing its more of a rich and poor thing . People are making huge profits with it on both sides and others are losing their ass on both sides . .

Could you share how people are making huge profits off of Agenda 21? I haven't really given much thought to that aspect of it.

With the NWO came free trade , with free trade came slave labor ,with slave labor went the American workers jobs . Corporations found that they can charge 300% mark up and no one be the wiser . In China American corporations pay No tax and pay their workers $365 a Month so when do we the people see the savings besides a dime here or there ? All my years on this planet I have not seen anything come down in price only going up .

Oh ok got ya. Thanks for explaining. I see Agenda 21 as just one aspect of the NWO but collectively so far I can not see how globalization has helped us in the slightest! In fact like you have pointed out the domino effect of how it has harmed us is very much so more evident.

Well it has helped tremendously the corporations but not the workers in This country but yes in the third worlds .How do corporations show record breaking profits in a recession ? Whats bad is the American tax payers are paying for it and corporations are wreaking the benefits . Give them more tax breaks for what outsourcing ? Don't make any sense what so ever . Well not to us but the guy making big money it makes plenty of sense .

Well I think this comes down to who is really in control - I see politicians, multi-national corporations and unions. So who is really steering this boat? ( I can't demonize all corporations, I've formed several in my lifetime. Some of us just want to make a living and provide services or goods to others for doing so. Some of us do care about our co-workers and see us all on the same boat together. To make a profit is not evil.) But in the long run the bottom line seems to fall on the lawmakers whether they are influenced by multi corps or unions they are the ones who write the bills that become laws that allow all of this. So my focus is upon them.

Could not have said it better. You so often amaze me. :)