Can Liberals and Conservatives agree on ANYTHING??!!

Many who call themselves liberals and conservatives seem to agree on supporting candidates who are in favor of the NDAA, the Patriot Act, the TSA, the wars/occupations, and assassinations of citizens by the government.

Republican President George Bush signed the Patriot Act in to law in his first term as president.. And the Republicans loved the Patriot Act so much the gave George Bush a 2nd term as President.

And Obama signed the NDAA which is on the same level of treason as the patriot act.

I wonder if democrats will do the same?

If George Bush was guilty of treason why was he given a 2nd term as president??

Because, congress was in on it too. When almost everyone in government is in on it, then you cant expect the government to arrest itself for it.

As for the people, most of us believed the patriot act didnt affect citizens, but many of us now know that it allows for basically government tyranny and repeals the 4th Amendment. Too many of us just simply accept what we are told.
And others simply accept tyranny, just as long as it's their guy in office.

they will try

My point is that Bush, Obama, Romney, and most of the candidates who support those things that I listed are getting support from both those who call themselves liberals and those who call themselves conservatives.

Suggest you take a harder look at the political structure. It is a severe and critical philosophical problem, an affliction of most people who belong to and worship the Dem-Rep monopoly. Bush is over, Obama will be over, but the insanity will continue.

So then the Republicans well worship their new Messiah Mitt Romney?? Sorry I will stick with President OBAMA .. I will VOTE for President OBAMA. .......... WOW STINKER left the comment below then BLOCKEDC ME.. Tell you what STINKER if you think Mitt Romney well fix anything then vote for the clown..I WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA

First mistake, rose. I am not a "Republican" and do not pretend to speak for them.

Second mistake, Obama. If you think that voting for him will do anything good for America, please just block me, because I don't have time for you.

And Libertarians are too drunk or dumbed down by drugs to know any better; right? :o) Let's legalize everything; it's called Anarchy! Fool!

I am Libertarian leaning and I have never tried drugs and don't drink. It's not anarchy. It's limiting the federal government to what is allowed in the Constitution.

hopefully someday

The only thing we can really agree on ..... is we DISAGREE on just about everything!

Not now. There used to be a time that politics stopped at the water's edge. Thats when we agreed. But ever since 2000 it hasn't stopped at the water's edge. Conservatives can and often do comprimise. But liberals never comprimise but expect everyone else to comprimise to them.

It seems that they agree on taking away certain rights.

What the people want has become immaterial to the azzhats in Congress bribed by the corporate lobbyists, and allowed to remain in Congress for 20+ years to continue feeding off them if they do the said lobbyist's bidding. They and Citizens United have insured that division will remain, and we the people will not be served. The only uprising needed is against the 535 members of Congress.

Wars...
war on drugs
war on terror
war on free thinking

War on prosperity
War on education
War on white people

As long as the topic isn't politics I'm sure they can agree on a lot of stuff.

Strict term limits to eliminate the corporate purchase politics that is destroying the country.

The media has created such a climate of divisiveness that actual resolution to problems has become irrelevent. It's all about which party can win - not about the betterment of our country.

Eventually a REAL leader will get elected as President, and will get both parties together

Genuine liberals and conservatives can agree that they are not very well represented by either party in our government.

Based on the original definitions and not just the generic meaningless label the parties use, I agree.

While your list would have been centrist only a few short years ago - now, it is considered radical left wing. Let's consider some of Mitt's comments/the right's positions on your "radical" ideas:

Improving education for our children: did you hear Mitt's comments here? Trying to justify packing more kids into public school rooms? I guarantee you - he would not support this for his kids' private schools.

Lowering taxes for all: Mitt's stated policy is to drastically cut tax rates for the top income bracket, while raising rates on the lowest brackets.

Balancing our fiscal budgets: have you heard Mitt's policies on military spending? Have you seen who he has hired as advisors? Neocons. Trying to restoke the Cold War - by calling Russia "our greatest geopolitical threat"?

Reforming campaign finance laws; the GOP has no interest in overturning Citizen's United. It's part of the right wing agenda.

Energy-independence from foreign oil - as long as this means greasing the palms of U.S. oil companies with tax subsidies and deregulation - the righties will agree. But attack the demand-side of the equation - with higher fuel economy standards...or supporting renewable energy sources like solar or wind...and they're out.

No, blue, - as crazy as it is - I'm afraid your admirable list is now considered LWNJ stuff by the right.

That's how it SHOULD be, not how it is.

I think most of us can agree that politicians suck. :)

All the politicians rape and rob the taxpayers at every turn look at the massively bloated public sector with their millionaire pensions, excessive compensation and staffing ...why do the public sector believe that they are the Kings and Queens...just examine you local operations and see the massive fraud in the public sector labor agreements...bot parties are criminals practicing their craft on the taxpayers...if there was a justice system and if they did not give themselves immunity from crimes...these people would all be in jail...

And the ONLY way to get rid of them is to vote them out of office and replace them with HONEST people. Which requires an educated voting public and media that reports FACTS, not SPIN.

However, people have to want to work together. Some do but it seems like so many are stuck in their ideological corners & refuse to give. It's not just politicians either. When you see people on SH who are so rigid in their ideology that they call moderate Republicans RINO's & demonizing anyone left-of-center we are in serious trouble.

I have Conservative friends & we're able to speak reasonably. In the past we were able to fix things in this country by taking the best ideas of the left & the right to craft legislation that worked for all. If we don't get back to that, this country is gonna go to hell in a handbasket.

All politicians WANT is to stay in power.

Ya just get tired of giving,and giving,and you'd have to be a masochistic to take the *hit that the hard liners of the Repubic clans men party thinks that they are entitled to push down your throat!It's all or nothing with them,and that's not indicative of Democracy!

We all have one thing in common and that is freedom. However it seems that some Libs do not want freedom they want tyranny and that is my problem with them.

Only if they turn off the partisan propaganda.

YES! there are some liberals that are cool. progressives, however, have no common ground with my views.

IT's an election year and both sides are pandering to their base. Soon they will again be acting as one.

No, are you kidding me..

We don't want to work and compromise because whoever is President gets the credit or blame. We are being selfish looking at what is good for my party rather then what is good for America.

Yes we can, yes we should... but it is only limited to the rationale of the two... The extreme of course say it's their way or the highway. I say, let the extremes take a road trip.

They agree on A LOT.

They agree on big government and spending.
They agree on war (just republicans use imperialistic rhetoric, democrats fake-humanitarian rhetoric)
They agree on the NDAA.
They agree on Carbon Taxes (well the big shots of the republicans started to once Bush flip-flopped)
They agree on raiding farmers over raw milk.
They agree on forcing people to buy healthcare.
They agree on secret arrests, torture, and assassinating Americans.

I could go on.