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California to Ban all Semi-Automatic Guns, Confiscate Firearms and Limit Ammo Sales: Good Law?

Fef 2013/02/21 00:15:14
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Let's for one minute ignore the Second Amendment and other Constitutional civil rights afforded to citizens of California and America. Gun control doesn't work. California and other states already have strict laws that criminals violate. Criminals -- by definition -- don't follow the law. This would create criminals out of millions of decent, otherwise law-abiding Californians.

Now, back to reality. Californians still have the civil rights afforded to all Americans under the Constitution. The Second Amendment would not allow such a law. California Democrats want to look like they deserve their job by acting tough on crime -- but in reality they will create a judicial nightmare and violate the Constitutional rights of its citizens.

Horror stories about gun violence pale in comparison to the unreported statistics of guns used to prevent violence on a daily basis. The smart Californians will leave, and the state will have fewer taxpayers to pay the debt Democrats have racked up over the decades.


OFFGRIDSURVIVAL.COM reports:California calling for door-to-door gun confiscations; ban of all semi-automatic handguns, shotguns and rifles; making possession of over 500 rounds of ammo a felony; and a list of proposals that will instantly criminalize law abiding gun owners...
The package includes:
* Banning the possession — not just manufacture and sale — of magazines holding more than 10 rounds.
* Making possession of hollow point bullets and similar “assault bullets” a felony.
* Requiring anyone wishing to buy ammunition to first get a permit by passing a background check.
* Requiring the registration and reporting of all ammo purchases. Limits the number of rounds anyone can have at one time to 500 rounds.
* Requiring all gun owners will have to be licensed like drivers, and will be forced to carry gun liability insurance.
* Banning any gun that has a detachable magazine, and requires a 100% prohibition of all fixed magazines greater than 10 rounds.
* Making all previous grandfathered magazines become illegal, and it will become a felony if you keep one.
* Prohibiting anyone barred from owning a weapon from living in a home where weapons are kept
* Expanding the list of crimes that would bar a person from gun possession.
* Letting the state Justice Department use money from the state’s Dealer’s Record of Sale system to eliminate the backlog of people identified as no longer allowed to own guns but not yet investigated and contacted by law enforcement.

Read More: http://offgridsurvival.com/californiatobansemiauto...

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  • Daryl 2013/02/21 00:39:51
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    Daryl
    +18
    So California is releasing convicted killers by the hundreds and disarming the law-abiding?

    Yep...liberal logic on full display.

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  • Sailor Jerry [Proud Liberta... 2013/02/25 02:15:47
    Good Grief!
    Sailor Jerry [Proud Libertarian]
    anybody willing to bet how many cops are gonna eat lead because of this?
  • Thomas 45 2013/02/22 16:09:07
    Good Grief!
    Thomas 45
    The DNC is the party of Treason!
  • Michaelene 2013/02/22 14:49:34
    Good Grief!
    Michaelene
    California is the home of the most rediculous laws. I feel badly for those who cannot leave the state. Like many people in Philadelphia who can't leave, they are stuck footing the bill for the moochers.
  • Maynard 2013/02/22 13:27:14
    Good Grief!
    Maynard
    California,,,


    HA HA HA and a BWAA HAA HAAAA you friggen IDIOTS.


    Just remember, YOU GOT WHAT YOU VOTED FOR.




    Meg Whitmans housecleaner could have done a better job.
  • phil.olding.3 2013/02/22 10:36:11
    Good Grief!
    phil.olding.3
    Untrained idiots with guns that can't afford to learn how to shoot them? That's the wrong answer.

    Taking a huge dump on the bill of rights? That's the wrong answer.

    Making more laws, when none of the current ones are being enforced, and there is a backlog of more than 40,000 people who bought guns but weren't supposed to? That's the wrong answer.
  • lady_c5_loadmaster 2013/02/22 05:41:34
    Good Grief!
    lady_c5_loadmaster
    I want to see who has the spine to sue Brown and the state over this.
  • us 2013/02/22 04:27:18
    Good Grief!
    us
    No to gun control, california already has strict gun laws, just like chicago, other states.
  • OPen Minded 2013/02/22 04:15:37
    Good Grief!
    OPen Minded
    It's like a contest to see who can be the biggest idiot!
  • Cliff 2013/02/22 03:24:08
    Good Grief!
    Cliff
    Now it's just a matter of counting dead bodies to see if California takes Illinois No.1 spot for most gun killings per capita.
  • inewsmaster 2013/02/22 02:32:55
    Good Law
    inewsmaster
    SEMI-AUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPONS! NOT ALL GUNS! IT'S LIKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PRIUS AND HUMMER. READ THE CONSTITUTION AND TELL ME WHERE THIS VIOLATES RIGHTS.
  • OPen Mi... inewsma... 2013/02/22 04:14:53
    OPen Minded
    Right On!

    Today it is politically correct to own a Prius!
    Turn in your Hummer because I'm smarter than you and I said so!

    Next year, we can ban the Prius and make everyone ride bicycles!

    Oh, yea, by the way - I'm rich, see, so me and my buddies in the government get to keep our Hummers. It's just YOU guys who ride the bikes.

    I LOVE BEING POLITICALLY CORRECT!
  • phil.ol... inewsma... 2013/02/22 10:40:49
    phil.olding.3
    The difference is this little thing called "reality".

    "READ THE CONSTITUTION AND TELL ME WHERE THIS VIOLATES RIGHTS."

    Oh, ok. This part: SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

    And this part: SECURITY OF A FREE STATE

    And this part: THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE

    Oh, and this part: ARMS

    All weapons, by definition, are for assaulting people. If you have an object that is not capable of assaulting people, then it's definitely not a weapon.

    Weapons, for assaulting people - and for killing them - are constitutionally protected.

    Let me modify that sentence a little:

    All arms, by definition, are for assaulting people. If you have an object that is not capable of assaulting people, then it's definitely not an arm, as protected in the bill of rights.

    The right of the people, to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

    That means that the right of the people (not the militia, not the military, not the police) to keep and bear (that's possess, carry, and use) arms (that's weapons, for killing people) shall not be infringed (that's SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!).

    If you take away guns that look scary, you won't take away all guns that are capable of assaulting people, and you won't have any effect on gun crime (see also: federal "assault weapons ban" from 1994-2004 that did NOTHING to reduce crime with any type of gun).

    Fact is, you're an idiot if you think banning guns is the answer, or is constitutional.
  • Ryan inewsma... 2013/02/22 19:06:09
    Ryan
    Easy.

    The law bans every single semi-auto handgun, rifle, and shotgun that use a detachable magazine.

    In short it would ban a pretty good majority of guns.

    So no this isn't saying you can't have a Hummer, but can drive a Prius.

    It's saying you can't drive a Ford, Dodge, GM, Honda, or Nissan. You can only drive Toyotas.

    After the Supreme Court decision, DC tried to ban Semi-auto handguns, and only allow Revolvers. They backed off of that stance because they realized it was a clear violation and would cause them to lose the next court case as well.

    This law would face a similar loss in court as it's proposed.

    And this doesn't even get into the various other bans in the law, just the guns themselves...
  • mind-pilot 2013/02/22 02:32:34
    Good Grief!
    mind-pilot
    California is not going to confinscate any weapons.
    But, if we can get all the transplants to believe it and they run off to Texas, then, we're all for it.
    So, go to Texas with your guns. Californian's don't need you anymore.
    Oh, yeah, leave your money here. This is a stick-up!
  • Ryan 2013/02/22 02:06:44
    Good Grief!
    Ryan
    +1
    California already has the best rating from the Brady Campaign for their state laws with a score of 81/100. They have the most gun murders of any state, and the 13th highest rate of gun murder.

    Vermont has a score of 6/100, and has both the fewest gun murders and the lowest rate of gun murder.

    Utah sits at the bottom with a 0/100 yet have a gun murder rate about 4 times lower than California.

    Obviously their multitude of gun laws aren't reducing gun violence in California.

    Still I have a feeling we'll see a lot of these in California if this passes:

    riveted AR mag

    A few minutes and a pop rivet, and you have a mag limited to just 10 rounds making them legal to keep. Then if the laws change back a few more minutes with a drill, and you can get it back to 30 rounds.


    Still the arrogance of these politicians to push a law they know violates the constitution...
  • phil.ol... Ryan 2013/02/22 10:41:33
    phil.olding.3
    Gun ownership, and the type of guns owned, has nothing to do with crime.
  • Ryan phil.ol... 2013/02/22 18:35:23
    Ryan
    +1
    Yeah that's pretty much what I was saying.

    The laws that control gun ownership don't have an effect on the criminals who ignore laws.
  • dave.bost.7 2013/02/22 01:48:14
    Good Grief!
    dave.bost.7
    +1
    This state is something else we cant get a cop to my home inside 30 minutes on a good clear day when they are siting in the office eating donuts when the call comes in. Now they think that they should disarm all of us. Are they kidding me???
  • RoyJLores 2013/02/22 01:03:47
    Good Grief!
    RoyJLores
    +2
    Only Authoritarian Fascists would consider this a good law...
    authoritarian fascists law
  • loony t 2013/02/22 00:57:20
    Good Grief!
    loony t
    +1
    Well at least we'll know where most of the criminals will be heading...
  • charles nelson 2013/02/22 00:48:43
    Good Grief!
    charles nelson
    The Mayan's Foretold this but missed it by just a couple of months
  • HAlex1972 2013/02/21 23:36:59
  • CorrectOpinion 2013/02/21 23:28:05
    Good Grief!
    CorrectOpinion
    +1
    Guess registering them is out of the question now. Oh well, wouldn't be the only law I break in Ca.
  • Xerxes 2013/02/21 22:49:17
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    Xerxes
    +3
    Unfortunately this does not restrict criminals from continuing on with business as usual. All this does is create a another illegal enterprise, e.g. buying ammo, assault weapons, magazines etc and selling them in California.
  • Correct... Xerxes 2013/02/21 23:28:55
    CorrectOpinion
    +2
    Mexican Drug Lords can fill that niche very easily.
  • Xerxes Correct... 2013/02/22 00:30:10
    Xerxes
    +1
    Sad but true
  • polock 2013/02/21 21:56:30
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    polock
    +2
    the state is full of idiots, the crooks will retain theirs and crime will go up. Mexico is a shot distance away so they'll simply get ammo there, IF POLITICANS HAD BRAINS WE'D HAVE A LIFESTYLE THAT WE WERE PROMICED DECADES AGO.
  • Sgt Major B 2013/02/21 21:27:09
    Good Grief!
    Sgt Major B
    +3
    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness..."

    Our rights were wrested from a tyrant at the cost of more than 10,000 American lives and eight years' worth of hardship, deprivation, and, for some, the loss of nearly all they owned. In the 238 years since, hundreds of thousands more have died to maintain them. No Americans should ever be willing to surrender them. Time for Californians to take to the streets.
  • Joker~RWAC/CFM 2013/02/21 20:24:01
  • Michael S. 2013/02/21 20:17:42 (edited)
    Good Grief!
    Michael S.
    +2
    On the upside, this helps demonstrate the purpose of gun registration more clearly than before: It's a prelude to confiscation.

    The is absolutely unconstitutional, and it's not the "will of the people" either, because the majority does not have the legitimate authority to deny the rights of the minority. Unfortunately, the current Supreme Court is full of far too many statist hacks to actually strike this down as they should.
  • Bali Michael S. 2013/02/22 01:59:09
    Bali
    seems like they deserve what they get...if you don't agree with cali's screwed up law then move to texas, we will be glad to have you.
  • Michael S. Bali 2013/02/22 02:05:43
    Michael S.
    I'm seriously considering it...just need the right job offer. :p
  • Bali Michael S. 2013/02/22 02:37:40
    Bali
    +1
    good luck brother, and get out while the getting is good. the crime rate will skyrocket now with the gestapo at the reigns.
  • Michael S. Bali 2013/02/22 02:46:34 (edited)
    Michael S.
    I should mention I'm not actually in California myself...but Texas is still looking better and better all the time. Dallas and Austin are some of the best cities to live in/around, from what I hear. :)
  • Runaway ✩ 2013/02/21 20:09:36
    Good Grief!
    Runaway ✩
    +3
    "Let's for one minute ignore the Second Amendment and other Constitutional civil rights afforded to citizens of California and America."

    Sorry, I realize that's meant to be rhetorical, but I can't play that game. If I play for one second, the people who want to gut the constitution will think it's alright for them to play the same game for a lifetime.
  • Hotcho 2013/02/21 20:06:30
  • gary 2013/02/21 20:03:15
  • Kim(: 2013/02/21 19:15:43
  • whitewu... Kim(: 2013/02/21 19:55:10
  • Kim(: whitewu... 2013/02/21 20:01:20
    Kim(:
    +1
    Exactly
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