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California has an unemployment rate over 10 percent. Is this an example of liberal policies at work?

☆ElenaDiamond☆ 2012/07/14 14:57:17
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Keep in mind, NJ, DC, Rhode Island all have unemployment well above the national average, and all of those states have liberal or democratic state governments.

9 of the 10 states with the lowest unemployment rates are Red states.

  • States under Democratic control saw an average decrease of 7.7% in the rate of unemployment
  • States under Republican control saw an average decrease of 15.3% in the rate of unemployment, virtually double the improvement of states under Democratic control
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  • Sissy 2012/07/14 15:07:29
    No it isn't.
    Sissy
    +12
    California's problems started long before the present democratic governor ever took office. I believe there was an "Arnold" in there somewhere as well.

    Republicans sure don't give any democrat much of an opportunity to clean up messes they had a huge part in making, do you. We see that all the way to the top. Go figure.

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  • Mike 2012/12/27 23:01:16
    No it isn't.
    Mike
    it's an example of trickle-up economics at work, part of the great race to the bottom!!
  • Dave 2012/07/15 19:18:57
    No it isn't.
    Dave
    +2
    Mmmmm - why pick California? If you look at the bottom 10 states, seven of them I'd consider Right Wingnut states.

    Your stats come from where? All you are is trying to divide the country with your nonsense. Why aren't you sticking up for California with some crap about illegal workers? That would be along your Right Wingnut talking points.

    Let's put it this way --- So unemployment is high across the country and what are we as US citizens going to do about it? Please don't answer with vote Mittens or for Obama or Paul.
  • ☆ElenaD... Dave 2012/07/15 19:21:13
    ☆ElenaDiamond☆
    +1
    9 of the top ten states with the lowest unemployment are GOP states.
  • Dave ☆ElenaD... 2012/07/15 19:33:12
    Dave
    +2
    So what does this have to do with anything? Are they always controlled by Republicons? I want something besides division from you - why is North Dakota at the top? You just cause hate and division with polls like this. Come on be smarter.
  • Seonag 2012/07/15 13:56:24
    Yes this is liberal policies.
    Seonag
    +2
    Also, notice that most of the cities/towns on the verge of bankruptcy are in Democratic states and have been under democratic control for decades. And then we have our Federal Government, under Democrat leadership, increasing the national debt by over $5 trillion in 3 1/2 years when it took Bush 8 years to do the same. And lets not forget that there has been no Federal Budget from the Senate (charged to do so) since April 23, 2009!
  • Roger 2012/07/15 12:06:18
    Yes this is liberal policies.
    Roger
    +2
    I encourage you to watch the following if you want to see the true results of liberal influence on America. The video is 3 years old and 13 minutes long but so true and rather alarming.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
  • StarWarsBob 2012/07/15 06:38:23 (edited)
    No it isn't.
    StarWarsBob
    +2
    In California, one out of nine residents are on food stamps. In Texas, it's one out of six residents that receive food stamps, and Texas has the highest rate of citizens without health insurance. Is Texas an example of conservative policies at work?
  • dallas 2012/07/15 02:28:53
  • Darkitec 2012/07/15 02:24:30
    Yes this is liberal policies.
    Darkitec
    +2
    Plus the environmental regulations that have forced many manufacturing businesses out of the state, or the high taxes that rape the working, for the sake of the poor.
  • artisth... Darkitec 2012/07/15 04:52:34
    artistheweapon
    +2
    well all things considered, if californias environmental regulations werent so rough, the pollution would rival that of chinas, since its such a densely populated state
  • dave b 2012/07/15 02:15:19
    Yes this is liberal policies.
    dave b
    +2
    Its more than 10%, the real numbers are more like 12% but the f'n Progressive Liberal media will never ever say that.
  • Picasso's Cat 2012/07/15 00:51:21
    No it isn't.
    Picasso's Cat
    +3
    Liberal policies my ass !
    We are in the shape we are because of the banks fleecing America, bringing down the economy.
    Wall street and the banks have fleeced America to point of economic disaster. That's why the unemployment is in the toilet, or havent you been paying attention to what's going on!!!!
  • Dave Picasso... 2012/07/15 19:21:23
    Dave
    +2
    Right Wingnuts hate socialism unless it's corporate socialism.
  • Murph 65 2012/07/15 00:18:12
    Yes this is liberal policies.
    Murph 65
    +1
    This was one of those "well, duh" questions, wasn't it?
  • Ron 2012/07/15 00:02:43
    Yes this is liberal policies.
    Ron
    +2
    When you think of Liberal you think California its going to crash and go bankrupt its just a matter of when.
  • zapped 2012/07/14 23:08:01
    Yes this is liberal policies.
    zapped
    +1
    though they'll never admit it ,,they want /need all dependent on the govt ,

    or they have no idea how to create jobs !

    likely some of both !
  • santa6642 2012/07/14 22:58:43
    Yes this is liberal policies.
    santa6642
    +1
    you hit the nail on the head first time out.
  • Edwin 2012/07/14 22:46:47
    No it isn't.
    Edwin
    +2
    It is interesting that 9 of the 10 states with the lowest unemployment are -- according to the author -- red states. Most people consider Vermont and Minnesota to be solid blue, and Virginia, New Hampshire and Iowa are definitely purple... so the author of this article either does not understand politics -- or is purposely lying.

    The easiest thing to notice, when you take off froth-at-the-mouth partisan blinders, is that the states with really large cities are the ones with the higher unemployment rates. Actually, the ones with the larger populations tend to have higher unemployment rates in general.

    Look at the three states with the lowest three rates: North Dakota, Nebraska, and South Dakota. None are very populous.

    On the other hand, look at the ten largest states, and their unemploment rates: only three have rates lower than 8.0. Conservatives can cheer that Texas is one of them, at 6.9%... of course they might not be as happy that Georgia and North Carolina are not (the rate in conservative North Carolina is one the worst in the country).

    Looking at the lowest eleven rates (not counting Washington D.C. because it is a city not a state, there is a tie for 10th place between three states): there are 5 blue states in this bunch, 4 red states, and two purple states...



    It is interesting that 9 of the 10 states with the lowest unemployment are -- according to the author -- red states. Most people consider Vermont and Minnesota to be solid blue, and Virginia, New Hampshire and Iowa are definitely purple... so the author of this article either does not understand politics -- or is purposely lying.

    The easiest thing to notice, when you take off froth-at-the-mouth partisan blinders, is that the states with really large cities are the ones with the higher unemployment rates. Actually, the ones with the larger populations tend to have higher unemployment rates in general.

    Look at the three states with the lowest three rates: North Dakota, Nebraska, and South Dakota. None are very populous.

    On the other hand, look at the ten largest states, and their unemploment rates: only three have rates lower than 8.0. Conservatives can cheer that Texas is one of them, at 6.9%... of course they might not be as happy that Georgia and North Carolina are not (the rate in conservative North Carolina is one the worst in the country).

    Looking at the lowest eleven rates (not counting Washington D.C. because it is a city not a state, there is a tie for 10th place between three states): there are 5 blue states in this bunch, 4 red states, and two purple states. Not exactly a resounding defeat for liberals OR conservatives.

    But wait! Of those 11 states, we have 7 of the most largest 11 states. Clearly, the trend is this: states with large populations -- whether red or blue or purple -- are more likely to have higher unemployment rates.

    The moral of this story is that you should not simply trust authors on SodaHead to give you accurate facts or reasonable interpretation of facts. You should look them up yourself.
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  • ☆ElenaD... Edwin 2012/07/14 23:02:53
    ☆ElenaDiamond☆
    +2
    North Carolina voted for Obama last year. the governor there is a Democrat. The governor of Georgia was a lifelong democrat but changed after 1992 .
  • Edwin ☆ElenaD... 2012/07/14 23:50:49
    Edwin
    +2
    So... are you saying that North Carolina is more of a purple state, and that the people in Georgia will sometimes elect a democrat as governor (just like the people in California sometimes elect a republican as governor)?
  • ☆ElenaD... Edwin 2012/07/14 23:54:49
    ☆ElenaDiamond☆
    +2
    No. We are talking about current governors of state. North Carolina is a swing state that leans blue. California is the most liberal state in the United states.
  • Edwin ☆ElenaD... 2012/07/15 00:07:47
    Edwin
    +2
    North Carolina is not a swing state. It is a red state that is leaning purple. In the last 5 (maybe 10) presidential elections, it has voted democratic only once.

    California IS liberal, though it is nowhere near the most liberal in the country. Many states in New England are far more liberal than California.

    Looking at *current governors* as an indicator of the political leanings of a state is pretty odd. If we went by that standard, Kentucky and Arkansas would become blue, and Pennsylvania and New Jersey would be red. Some pundits feel Pennsylvania is competitive in the upcoming election, but none would classify it as purple, let alone red, and nobody would call Arkansas a bastion of the Democratic Party.
  • ☆ElenaD... Edwin 2012/07/15 01:00:19
    ☆ElenaDiamond☆
    +1
    How many republican governors had NC had?
  • Edwin ☆ElenaD... 2012/07/15 04:25:59
    Edwin
    +2
    Good point. They have had a few republican governors, but most have been democrats. So why is it they elect democrats locally, but they vote for republicans for president?
  • ☆ElenaD... Edwin 2012/07/15 04:59:08
    ☆ElenaDiamond☆
    +1
    They are a swing state.
  • Edwin ☆ElenaD... 2012/07/16 03:57:59
    Edwin
    Very few people other than you have said that recently... even given that NC voted for Obama last election, I have not seen many pundits say they think it will again -- because most of them classify it as a red state rather than a swing state.

    On the other hand, its demographics may be changing.
  • ☆ElenaD... Edwin 2012/07/16 19:35:35
    ☆ElenaDiamond☆
    No. Most everyone considers them a swing state.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo...
  • Edwin ☆ElenaD... 2012/07/18 16:38:02
    Edwin
    Your first link did not mention North Carolina; your second did -- a group called Purple Strategies clearly considers them to be swing, but that is one group.

    I will look again at other sources -- maybe some are giving a new look.
  • Dave ☆ElenaD... 2012/07/15 19:28:57
    Dave
    How many republicon governors has California had?
  • Dave ☆ElenaD... 2012/07/15 19:26:50
    Dave
    So what are you trying to say -- the governor is responsible for job creation? And what -no other factors come into play - just the fact a state is red or blue?
  • Dave Edwin 2012/07/15 19:24:29 (edited)
    Dave
    Oh stop now. You have to look at this as states we don't like and can bad-mouth all you want, but it seems the Right Wingnuts forget that we are an "United States".
  • Defend ... Dave 2012/07/16 01:17:00
    Defend Western Civlization
    Your Hate is noted
  • Edwin Dave 2012/07/16 03:59:59
    Edwin
    To be fair, liberals bad-mouth the South quite often -- and they insult Texans, too.

    Liberals don't ridicule the Northern Mountain states so often, though -- I think those states have a sort of romantic appeal (the big, open country and so forth).
  • Dave Edwin 2012/07/16 04:40:56
    Dave
    Yes - I insult Texass all the time. i can't help it - I spent 6 hours there and that was enough. I have never met a texan that I liked either.
  • Edwin Dave 2012/07/18 16:39:45
    Edwin
    +1
    I have. But I am an academic, so most of us move about a fair bit more than the average person.

    When I was in San Antonio, though, I found most of the locals to be reasonably friendly and nice. We didn't talk politics, but we got along.
  • Taxman 2012/07/14 22:34:40
    Yes this is liberal policies.
    Taxman
    +2
    With extended benefits, many will put off employment until the benefits run out. Give 6 months, they will find work at 5 1/2. A year, they will find work at 11 1/2 months.
  • apachehellfire65 2012/07/14 22:26:22
    Yes this is liberal policies.
    apachehellfire65
    +3
    but the crown jewel of liberal policy's in action is and always will be Detroit!
  • Captain... apacheh... 2012/07/14 22:32:32
    Captain Kirk~POTL
    +3
    That`s a fact,liberal policies and as much or more corruption than Chicago !!
  • davidgoessplat 2012/07/14 21:52:43
    Yes this is liberal policies.
    davidgoessplat
    +3
    They have made it horrendous for business here. Look up the best states for business 2012 and California is dead last.
  • Tuna 2012/07/14 21:32:22
    Yes this is liberal policies.
    Tuna
    +5
    There is a pool of oil right off of Santa Catalina large enough to end California's liberal spending problem tomorrow. May have to trim some of the $ 1 million mayor's salaries or $750,000 school teacher's salaries. money tree
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