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Bush Says Nuke-less Iran Is Still A Threat--Is Iran a threat to the USA?

Jamesy818 [Raccoon VP] 2007/12/04 21:18:26
Iran never was a threat to us!
I feel safer knowing they cannot produce WMDs.
I think we should go in there and make sure.
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Bush said Tuesday; "Iran was dangerous, Iran is dangerous and Iran will be dangerous if they have the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon," Bush said, pointing out that Tehran continues to try to enrich uranium for civilian purposes and therefore develop technology that could be used for a weapon.

A declassified summary of a National Intelligence Estimate released by the U.S. government on Monday said Iran had stopped working toward a nuclear weapon in 2003 and is unlikely to be able to produce enough enriched uranium for a bomb until at least 2010.

Enriched uranium at low concentrations can be used to fuel nuclear power plants, but much higher concentrations are needed to yield a nuclear explosion.
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  • Heisenberg 2007/12/04 21:26:25
    I think we should go in there and make sure.
    Heisenberg
    +11
    While Saudi Arabia remains the premier religious engine for Islamic terrorism, Iran is the premier logistical engine for Islamic terror.

    So long as Iran stays non-nuclear, there is probably not a need to invade but we should work to undermine the Islamic mullahs to promote liberty and peace.

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  • thetruth 2009/03/03 20:50:17
    I think we should go in there and make sure.
    thetruth
    BUSHEHR, Iran — Iranian and Russian technicians are conducting a test run of Iran's first nuclear power plant, officials said Wednesday, a major step toward launching full operations at the facility, which has long worried the U.S. and its allies. At the same time, Iran claimed another advance in its controversial nuclear program: The number of centrifuges operating at its uranium enrichment plant has increased to 6,000, the country's nuclear chief said — up from 5,000 in November.

    They already have them! Whats going to happen to poor little Israel now that crazy man has some bombs?
  • Leroy Boy 2008/05/28 17:16:48
    Iran never was a threat to us!
    Leroy Boy
    No but they will be if we keep treating them like we do. If we don't want Iran to have nukes then we should get rid of ours. German people thought they were right to dominate europe in ww2 and we thought we were right to go into Iraq. What has Iran done any different.
  • aaron 2008/04/19 00:01:08
    I think we should go in there and make sure.
    aaron
    We need to make sure that they don't accidentally do something that they even regret by looking into things. But nuclear weapons tend to be used as more of a negotiating tool for countries that want to be listened to. This may be the case here, but I still think that Iran is not to be trusted with much. I believe that this may have started with Iran's plan to move oil trade off of the dollar to a new Iranian based currency. This would limit the Fed's ability to sell t-bonds and increase deficit spending (i.e. print money like crazy). I'm not all for nuclear spending, but I think that the biggest issue is that the Fed is printing more and more money, and the world is paying the price. Where is all the money going.???? Not in my backyard.....
  • jsd 2008/03/27 23:58:11
    Iran never was a threat to us!
    jsd
    By the way, we should all take a good hard look at where the info about what we are told goes on in Iran comes from. Taking the word of CNN,FOX, etc., or even Bushy and his arrogant side kick......should be cause to pause.....research. Like gramps said, don't believe everthing you hear.
  • moe 2008/01/30 07:30:22
    I think we should go in there and make sure.
    moe
    How many low-yield nukes does it take to dessimate your neighbors, or a warship, or an enemy military base less than 400 miles away? Don't take it lightly, the aforementioned nations' leaders do not argue that they are not on neutral or friendly terms with The West. The knowledge they want, is how to use one that won't cause all the nuclear fallout and radiation. Why? Because they don't want to kill themselves in the process. A couple hundred of them little heads with big results is all they want... not Nagasaki size heads. They want them ones that go BBOOOOM... not BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB...

    [fade out] ... [super-impose on the screen] 2010.

    and roll credits.
  • DrTim 2008/01/30 04:01:20
    Iran never was a threat to us!
    DrTim
    Yep, they're going to jump in the Hummers we sold them and drive right over here and attack the BIGGEST POWER ON THE PLANET!!
    Gimmie a 'Break"
  • insectual 2007/12/31 17:45:10
    Iran never was a threat to us!
    insectual
    We should be talking to Iran alot more
  • Alex 2007/12/21 02:05:33
    I feel safer knowing they cannot produce WMDs.
    Alex
    I think Iran is still a large state sponsor of terror and has the capability to initiate a military strike into Israel and wipe it off the map. In the mean time, I say we shouldn't go to war just yet.
  • piffy 2007/12/12 17:37:59 (edited)
    Undecided
    piffy
    +1
    I wouldn't believe Iran.They are biding for more time.We need to
    find out.Newsmax sources in Tehran believe that Washinton has fallen
    for "deliberate disinformation campaign" made up by the Revelutionary
    Guards who laundered fake information and fed it to the U.S.
    through Revelutionary Guards intelligence officers posing as senior
    diplomats.The N.I.E. is chaired by Thomas Fingar with no known overseas
    experience.Fingar was a key partner of the Senate Democrats in their
    successful effort to derail the confirmation of John Bolton to become a
    permanent represenative to the United Nations.As head of the N.I.E.
    Fingar has gone out of his way to fire analysts" who asked the wrong
    questions"and who challenged the PC views held by himself and his
    former
    State Dept. colleagues.In Mach of 2007 Fingar fired top Cuba and
    Venezuela analyst Norman Bailey,After he warned of a growing alliance
    between Castro and Chavez.Cuba applauded this decision.SO i would say
    as Ronald Reagan said "trust but verify".I personaly think they are
    LIARS
  • TheyDid... piffy 2007/12/14 13:34:55
    TheyDidWhat?
    +1
    I agree. Iran has developed a new missle with a range of +- 1,400 miles. Why would they need or want that if they had no nuclear ambitions? One does not use a missle like that to deliver high explosives ( unless it is a cruise missle which this version is not). For high explosive delivery they have brainwashed youth and C4 vests. These lunatics are going nuclear and the US left, including the our own left leaning state department and intel folks, is falling for their claims of peaceful intention. Kinfd of reminds me of Neville Chamberlin in 1939 ( 1938?).

    History is a prelude.....
  • Iran never was a threat to us!
    Freedomwatcher ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +1
    Indeed nothing has changed from the administration's perspective, as they have had this latest intelligence report for some time. Only this week has it been made known to the public. They want it both ways with Iran. On the one hand, they discredit the report entirely, despite it being one of the most comprehensive intelligence reports on the subject, with over 1,000 source notes in the document. On the other hand, when discrediting it fails, they claim that the timing of the abandonment of the weapons program, just as we were invading Iraq, means our pressure must have worked, so we must keep it up with a new round of even tougher sanctions. Russia and China are not buying this, apparently, and again we are finding ourselves on a lonely tenuous platform on the world stage.

    The truth is Iran is being asked to do the logically impossible feat of proving a negative. They are being presumed guilty until proven innocent because there is no evidence with which to indict them. There is still no evidence that Iran, a signatory of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, has ever violated the treaty's terms – and the terms clearly state that Iran is allowed to pursue nuclear energy for peaceful, civilian energy needs. The United States cannot unilaterally change the terms of the treaty...



    Indeed nothing has changed from the administration's perspective, as they have had this latest intelligence report for some time. Only this week has it been made known to the public. They want it both ways with Iran. On the one hand, they discredit the report entirely, despite it being one of the most comprehensive intelligence reports on the subject, with over 1,000 source notes in the document. On the other hand, when discrediting it fails, they claim that the timing of the abandonment of the weapons program, just as we were invading Iraq, means our pressure must have worked, so we must keep it up with a new round of even tougher sanctions. Russia and China are not buying this, apparently, and again we are finding ourselves on a lonely tenuous platform on the world stage.

    The truth is Iran is being asked to do the logically impossible feat of proving a negative. They are being presumed guilty until proven innocent because there is no evidence with which to indict them. There is still no evidence that Iran, a signatory of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, has ever violated the treaty's terms – and the terms clearly state that Iran is allowed to pursue nuclear energy for peaceful, civilian energy needs. The United States cannot unilaterally change the terms of the treaty, and it is unfair and unwise diplomatically to impose sanctions for no legitimate reason.

    Are we to think that Iran hasn't noticed the duplicitous treatment being received by so-called nuclear threats around the globe? If they have been paying attention, and I think they have, they would see that if countries do have a nuclear weapon, they tend to be left alone, or possibly get a subsidy, but if they do not gain such a weapon then we threaten them. Why wouldn't they want to pursue a nuclear weapon if that is our current foreign policy? The fact remains, there is no evidence they actually have one, or could have one any time soon, even if they immediately resumed a weapons program.

    Our badly misguided foreign policy has already driven this country's economy to the brink of bankruptcy with one war based on misinformation. It is unthinkable that despite lack of any evidence of a threat, some are still charging headstrong into yet another war in the Middle East when what we ought to be doing is coming home from Iraq, coming home from Korea, coming home from Germany and defending our own soil. We do not need to be interfering in the internal affairs of other countries and waging war when honest trade, friendship, and diplomacy are the true paths to peace and prosperity.~~~~~~~Congressman Ron Paul
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  • piffy Freedom... 2007/12/14 15:05:33
    piffy
    DON'T BE SO NAIVE,THESE PEOPLE CAN'T BE TRUSTED AND THEIR REPORTS
    BEING SPOON FED TO THOMAS FINGAR OF THE N.I.E.HE WAS THE ONE AND THE
    SENATE DEMOCRATS WHO STOPPESD THE PERMANENT APPOINTMENT OF JOHN BOLTON
    WHO WOULD HAVE KEEP THE UN ON THEIR TOES.
  • Freedom... piffy 2007/12/15 01:29:58
    Freedomwatcher ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +1
    If we would ahd followed the constitution we wouldn't be in the U.N.
  • TheyDid... Freedom... 2007/12/15 16:10:14
    TheyDidWhat?
    what specifically in the constitution forbids us being in the UN ( not that I care for the UN)
  • Freedom... TheyDid... 2007/12/15 16:24:29
    Freedomwatcher ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    Article 1, Section 10 ........Powers prohibited of States

    No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

    No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul of the Congress.

    No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.
  • TheyDid... Freedom... 2007/12/15 18:13:40
    TheyDidWhat?
    state - not the feral government
  • TheyDidWhat? 2007/12/09 12:48:59
    Undecided
    TheyDidWhat?
    +2
    I am not undecided but, in the tired, age old tradition of the left, you have phrased your answer choices in a biased manner. Iran is a threat and is still producing fissionable material. Once they have the material it is an easy transition to having a nuke. They have stated their ( meaning the gov't, not the average Iranian) desire to eliminate Israel and the US.
  • Freedom... TheyDid... 2007/12/15 01:45:00
    Freedomwatcher ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    So what if Iran has one Nuke. The Soviets had hundreds pointed right at us. Pakistan, Isreal, and Syria all have Nukes. Why don't we invade them? Who are we anyway to tell any country what to do, we have nukes and we think we can tell other countries that they can't for their own protection? If I was Iran I would want some kind of WMD also with the U.S. invading country after country. How would you feel if China invaded Canada and Mexico? Wouldn't you feel a little worried that they might want to come here next? I mean there has been absolutley no diplomacy with Iran what so ever. They don't know what our next move is, especially after our CIA over threw their government in the 50's. Not to mention this country doesn't have a Navy or Air Force. Is it the nature of this country to attack 3rd world countries and plunder them? Also do you really think that a country with no Navy or Air Force is going to threaten the biggest Super power in the world with one Nuke? The media has you sheep so brainwashed to think that this is true. I don't buy it.
  • TheyDid... Freedom... 2007/12/15 12:59:54
    TheyDidWhat?
    1. Syria does not have nukes
    2. There nothing to suggest that Iran wants 'one' nuke - it's zero or many
    3. They do not pose a threat to US real estate but rather to stability in the mid-east
    4. Other mid-east countries are against Iran having nukes
    5. Iran is led by a radical, nutty, fascist regime who want to kill people because of their beliefs.
    6. Irn does not need nuclear energy production; they need oil refineries. They sit on huge oil reserves. That leaves the reason for nuclear development at weapons - eventually
    7. They have just finished development of a missle with a range of +- 1,400 miles. I assume that the missle is not intended for dropping leaflets on Israel.
    8. Iran cut off diplomacy with the US when they held out embassy staff hostage for over 400 days in 1979-81.
    9. The US has been talking with Iran through back channels and has let them know that the nuke idea is not a good one. The UN ( that bastion of inaction) has even ponied up with sanctions against Iran.
    10. The EU has come out strongly against the nuke plans and is enacting sanctions of their own.
    11. Iraq is a traditional enemy of Iran. I imagine that Iran was quite pleased to see Saddam dangle from the end of a rope but now wishes to move into Iraq and spread their fascism.
    12. Iran has a...




    1. Syria does not have nukes
    2. There nothing to suggest that Iran wants 'one' nuke - it's zero or many
    3. They do not pose a threat to US real estate but rather to stability in the mid-east
    4. Other mid-east countries are against Iran having nukes
    5. Iran is led by a radical, nutty, fascist regime who want to kill people because of their beliefs.
    6. Irn does not need nuclear energy production; they need oil refineries. They sit on huge oil reserves. That leaves the reason for nuclear development at weapons - eventually
    7. They have just finished development of a missle with a range of +- 1,400 miles. I assume that the missle is not intended for dropping leaflets on Israel.
    8. Iran cut off diplomacy with the US when they held out embassy staff hostage for over 400 days in 1979-81.
    9. The US has been talking with Iran through back channels and has let them know that the nuke idea is not a good one. The UN ( that bastion of inaction) has even ponied up with sanctions against Iran.
    10. The EU has come out strongly against the nuke plans and is enacting sanctions of their own.
    11. Iraq is a traditional enemy of Iran. I imagine that Iran was quite pleased to see Saddam dangle from the end of a rope but now wishes to move into Iraq and spread their fascism.
    12. Iran has a very good air force and does have a navy neither of which could stand up to the US for very long ( I like things that way )
    13. I trust the US with weapons much more than I trust whackos and so does the rest free world.
    14. I think that if Mexico were sponsoring terrorism in China we, the US, would help China put an end to it prior to any invasion being necessary.
    15. If you are so distrustful of this country, please name one that has done more for this world. Name one that has sacrificed more in terms of treasure to give aid to other countries. Name one that has given more in terms of military assistance to ensure the freedoms of others.
    16. Name one country that has occupied more world real estate for the benefit of others only to ask for enough land to bury our dead before going home.
    17. FreedomWatcher eh. Freedom comes with a price. What have you done to ensure it besides whine and tear down?
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  • Freedom... TheyDid... 2007/12/15 14:31:03
    Freedomwatcher ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    And what are you, a dedicated Fox News puppet. I can already tell you have been brainwashed by the establishment and have no real thoughts of your own. Iran fascist? Please!!! Show me where they are a fascist country. Also tell me how America is not becoming one. Here some good reading material you might check out. See if it sounds familiar.

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/ho...
  • TheyDid... Freedom... 2007/12/15 14:37:26
    TheyDidWhat?
    you did not answer resonable my question yet you choose to denegrate my opinions andi ignore my presented facts. You are not worth the effort of debate
  • Freedom... TheyDid... 2007/12/15 15:08:01
    Freedomwatcher ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    As you did not answer mine and have done the same, and that is fine. I do not wish to debate such myopic veiws as well. See you on the other side of the fence.
  • TheyDid... Freedom... 2007/12/15 16:15:39
    TheyDidWhat?
    I was quite clear in answering your questions if you read my text. Several of your questions were rhetorical and based upon illusion, not fact. I presented the facts which negate your questions.

    Why is it that liberals digress to name calling so quickly in a debate. Are they so arrogant as to discount another opinion without thought or simply unable to deal with fact over feeling?

    I once saw liberals, correctly I might add, described as people who will talk of freedom of opinion and then be shocked that anyone would have one contrary to their own
  • Freedom... TheyDid... 2007/12/15 16:36:45 (edited)
    Freedomwatcher ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    You use the term "Liberal" so liberally!

    If you listen to Sean Hannity, then you can call me a liberal or what ever, It doesn't offend me as warmonger obviously does you.
  • NarcolepticGoat 2007/12/08 20:13:09
    Undecided
    NarcolepticGoat
    +2
    Deja vu all over again. This sounds exactly like the run up to war with Iraq. The ONE thing thats different? The N in stead of the Q.

    Bush just wants another war. Badly. Not sure what he would invade WITH. But the more enemies, the faster our rights go out the window.
  • Gone! 2007/12/07 23:25:37
  • TheyDid... Gone! 2007/12/09 12:50:10
    TheyDidWhat?
    +2
    grow up and get the facts ( by the way, vulgarity is an indicator of a weak mind)
  • Gone! TheyDid... 2007/12/09 17:08:27 (edited)
  • TheyDid... Gone! 2007/12/14 13:27:14
    TheyDidWhat?
    +1
    I rest my case.....
  • Timmaaaaaay 2007/12/07 09:15:05
    I feel safer knowing they cannot produce WMDs.
    Timmaaaaaay
    +2
    I feel better knowing they have no wmd program, but I am curious how 16 different intel organizations got it so wrong for so long. Iran is however still refining uranium, they also have a heavy water reactor. the biproduct of running this reactor will be plutonium. There is no use for this but weapons, and if this is a peacful program a light water reacter is much more efficient. I think Iran will start the next world war when/if they are able.
  • Hal 2007/12/07 03:28:17
    I think we should go in there and make sure.
    Hal
    +3
    As Reagan said, "Trust and VERIFY". (Emphasis on verify)

    They would vaporize us tomorrow if they could. We could vaporize them today, but we don't. Big difference.
  • ♥~Rainbow~♥ 2007/12/06 23:57:38
    Iran never was a threat to us!
    ♥~Rainbow~♥
    +4
    as i stated before....Iran is not a threat....the treat is having the troops over there in the middle east like sitting ducks..it is just a ploy to make Americans think that we are in danger...Iran has no capability to harm the US...what it does have is the capability to harm the men and woman already over there....Bush is a dictator and a half wit...i for one dont buy it ....it is all mindless scare tactics to get the American people to agree with an all out attack on the middle east.....it is that simple!

    as Art stated..promote peace and liberty and work with them! invading Iran is certainly not promoting anything except bullying...
  • Timmaaa... ♥~Rainb... 2007/12/07 09:18:03
    Timmaaaaaay
    +2
    I can't believe you refer to bush as a dictator. dictators don't have tern limits.
  • ♥~Rainb... Timmaaa... 2007/12/07 11:34:28
    ♥~Rainbow~♥
    +3
    if you dont see that bush is a dictator with the way he has done this country wrong and the way he does things around the world ...i dont know what to tell you...as far as term limits...that has nothing to do with it...the man is what he is ...the whole administration is...sorry you dont see it...
  • MQ-Amer... ♥~Rainb... 2007/12/08 02:24:58
    MQ-American Values Again (AVA)
    +3
    TammaBamma -- ignorance is bliss dear
  • ♥~Rainb... MQ-Amer... 2007/12/08 03:03:18
    ♥~Rainbow~♥
    +2
    must be...hmmmmm...where do you get your info from??
  • MQ-Amer... ♥~Rainb... 2007/12/08 03:51:13
    MQ-American Values Again (AVA)
    +1
    Tamma Bamma -- for starters -- America has no dictators
  • Narcole... MQ-Amer... 2007/12/08 20:11:24
    NarcolepticGoat
    +1
    MissQueen -- Ignorance is bliss dear. Naivete is pure annaloyed joy.

    Do you know how to boil a frog?
  • MQ-Amer... Narcole... 2007/12/10 17:26:46
    MQ-American Values Again (AVA)
    +1
    Narcoleptic Goat -- no, but I fry goat meat .....careful now : )
  • Narcole... MQ-Amer... 2007/12/10 17:29:48
    NarcolepticGoat
    +1
    I do hope you marinade if first!

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