While Saudi Arabia remains the premier religious engine for Islamic terrorism, Iran is the premier logistical engine for Islamic terror.
So long as Iran stays non-nuclear, there is probably not a need to invade but we should work to undermine the Islamic mullahs to promote liberty and peace.
Bush Says Nuke-less Iran Is Still A Threat--Is Iran a threat to the USA?
Jamesy818 [Raccoon VP]
2007/12/04 21:18:26
Bush said Tuesday; "Iran was dangerous, Iran is dangerous and Iran will be dangerous if they have the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon," Bush said, pointing out that Tehran continues to try to enrich uranium for civilian purposes and therefore develop technology that could be used for a weapon.
A declassified summary of a National Intelligence Estimate released by the U.S. government on Monday said Iran had stopped working toward a nuclear weapon in 2003 and is unlikely to be able to produce enough enriched uranium for a bomb until at least 2010.
Enriched uranium at low concentrations can be used to fuel nuclear power plants, but much higher concentrations are needed to yield a nuclear explosion.
A declassified summary of a National Intelligence Estimate released by the U.S. government on Monday said Iran had stopped working toward a nuclear weapon in 2003 and is unlikely to be able to produce enough enriched uranium for a bomb until at least 2010.
Enriched uranium at low concentrations can be used to fuel nuclear power plants, but much higher concentrations are needed to yield a nuclear explosion.
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Heisenberg 2007/12/04 21:26:25I think we should go in there and make sure.






















They already have them! Whats going to happen to poor little Israel now that crazy man has some bombs?
[fade out] ... [super-impose on the screen] 2010.
and roll credits.
Gimmie a 'Break"
find out.Newsmax sources in Tehran believe that Washinton has fallen
for "deliberate disinformation campaign" made up by the Revelutionary
Guards who laundered fake information and fed it to the U.S.
through Revelutionary Guards intelligence officers posing as senior
diplomats.The N.I.E. is chaired by Thomas Fingar with no known overseas
experience.Fingar was a key partner of the Senate Democrats in their
successful effort to derail the confirmation of John Bolton to become a
permanent represenative to the United Nations.As head of the N.I.E.
Fingar has gone out of his way to fire analysts" who asked the wrong
questions"and who challenged the PC views held by himself and his
former
State Dept. colleagues.In Mach of 2007 Fingar fired top Cuba and
Venezuela analyst Norman Bailey,After he warned of a growing alliance
between Castro and Chavez.Cuba applauded this decision.SO i would say
as Ronald Reagan said "trust but verify".I personaly think they are
LIARS
History is a prelude.....
The truth is Iran is being asked to do the logically impossible feat of proving a negative. They are being presumed guilty until proven innocent because there is no evidence with which to indict them. There is still no evidence that Iran, a signatory of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, has ever violated the treaty's terms – and the terms clearly state that Iran is allowed to pursue nuclear energy for peaceful, civilian energy needs. The United States cannot unilaterally change the terms of the treaty...
The truth is Iran is being asked to do the logically impossible feat of proving a negative. They are being presumed guilty until proven innocent because there is no evidence with which to indict them. There is still no evidence that Iran, a signatory of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, has ever violated the treaty's terms – and the terms clearly state that Iran is allowed to pursue nuclear energy for peaceful, civilian energy needs. The United States cannot unilaterally change the terms of the treaty, and it is unfair and unwise diplomatically to impose sanctions for no legitimate reason.
Are we to think that Iran hasn't noticed the duplicitous treatment being received by so-called nuclear threats around the globe? If they have been paying attention, and I think they have, they would see that if countries do have a nuclear weapon, they tend to be left alone, or possibly get a subsidy, but if they do not gain such a weapon then we threaten them. Why wouldn't they want to pursue a nuclear weapon if that is our current foreign policy? The fact remains, there is no evidence they actually have one, or could have one any time soon, even if they immediately resumed a weapons program.
Our badly misguided foreign policy has already driven this country's economy to the brink of bankruptcy with one war based on misinformation. It is unthinkable that despite lack of any evidence of a threat, some are still charging headstrong into yet another war in the Middle East when what we ought to be doing is coming home from Iraq, coming home from Korea, coming home from Germany and defending our own soil. We do not need to be interfering in the internal affairs of other countries and waging war when honest trade, friendship, and diplomacy are the true paths to peace and prosperity.~~~~~~~Congressman Ron Paul
BEING SPOON FED TO THOMAS FINGAR OF THE N.I.E.HE WAS THE ONE AND THE
SENATE DEMOCRATS WHO STOPPESD THE PERMANENT APPOINTMENT OF JOHN BOLTON
WHO WOULD HAVE KEEP THE UN ON THEIR TOES.
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2. There nothing to suggest that Iran wants 'one' nuke - it's zero or many
3. They do not pose a threat to US real estate but rather to stability in the mid-east
4. Other mid-east countries are against Iran having nukes
5. Iran is led by a radical, nutty, fascist regime who want to kill people because of their beliefs.
6. Irn does not need nuclear energy production; they need oil refineries. They sit on huge oil reserves. That leaves the reason for nuclear development at weapons - eventually
7. They have just finished development of a missle with a range of +- 1,400 miles. I assume that the missle is not intended for dropping leaflets on Israel.
8. Iran cut off diplomacy with the US when they held out embassy staff hostage for over 400 days in 1979-81.
9. The US has been talking with Iran through back channels and has let them know that the nuke idea is not a good one. The UN ( that bastion of inaction) has even ponied up with sanctions against Iran.
10. The EU has come out strongly against the nuke plans and is enacting sanctions of their own.
11. Iraq is a traditional enemy of Iran. I imagine that Iran was quite pleased to see Saddam dangle from the end of a rope but now wishes to move into Iraq and spread their fascism.
12. Iran has a...
2. There nothing to suggest that Iran wants 'one' nuke - it's zero or many
3. They do not pose a threat to US real estate but rather to stability in the mid-east
4. Other mid-east countries are against Iran having nukes
5. Iran is led by a radical, nutty, fascist regime who want to kill people because of their beliefs.
6. Irn does not need nuclear energy production; they need oil refineries. They sit on huge oil reserves. That leaves the reason for nuclear development at weapons - eventually
7. They have just finished development of a missle with a range of +- 1,400 miles. I assume that the missle is not intended for dropping leaflets on Israel.
8. Iran cut off diplomacy with the US when they held out embassy staff hostage for over 400 days in 1979-81.
9. The US has been talking with Iran through back channels and has let them know that the nuke idea is not a good one. The UN ( that bastion of inaction) has even ponied up with sanctions against Iran.
10. The EU has come out strongly against the nuke plans and is enacting sanctions of their own.
11. Iraq is a traditional enemy of Iran. I imagine that Iran was quite pleased to see Saddam dangle from the end of a rope but now wishes to move into Iraq and spread their fascism.
12. Iran has a very good air force and does have a navy neither of which could stand up to the US for very long ( I like things that way )
13. I trust the US with weapons much more than I trust whackos and so does the rest free world.
14. I think that if Mexico were sponsoring terrorism in China we, the US, would help China put an end to it prior to any invasion being necessary.
15. If you are so distrustful of this country, please name one that has done more for this world. Name one that has sacrificed more in terms of treasure to give aid to other countries. Name one that has given more in terms of military assistance to ensure the freedoms of others.
16. Name one country that has occupied more world real estate for the benefit of others only to ask for enough land to bury our dead before going home.
17. FreedomWatcher eh. Freedom comes with a price. What have you done to ensure it besides whine and tear down?
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Why is it that liberals digress to name calling so quickly in a debate. Are they so arrogant as to discount another opinion without thought or simply unable to deal with fact over feeling?
I once saw liberals, correctly I might add, described as people who will talk of freedom of opinion and then be shocked that anyone would have one contrary to their own
If you listen to Sean Hannity, then you can call me a liberal or what ever, It doesn't offend me as warmonger obviously does you.
Bush just wants another war. Badly. Not sure what he would invade WITH. But the more enemies, the faster our rights go out the window.
They would vaporize us tomorrow if they could. We could vaporize them today, but we don't. Big difference.
as Art stated..promote peace and liberty and work with them! invading Iran is certainly not promoting anything except bullying...
Do you know how to boil a frog?