Bush or Obama?

BarrackOsama 2011/06/22 23:14:42
Your choice of President
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I have Gathered economic statistics for you to read before you choose.

Unemployment Rates Presidents highest rate.
Bush-7.3 Obama-10.1
Look for yourself http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
Whats happens when we have thousands of troops home? 18.1?????

United States Debt.
Bush all time high 9,000,000,000,000
Obamas 14,000,000,000,000 and counting

President Deficit.
Obama has double and even tripled spending over Bush.

Bush started a war as a counter act of terrorism.
Obamas waving the white flag, so we can be hit by more terrorism.

Both of them sound confused half the time when making speeches.

But Obama is tearing the country down, the poll is who would you rather have in the white house today, take in to account all of the things i have listed please read and do your research, before voting on "hope of change" again.


He has high interest in Muslim Benefits that is not what we need our american president to be worrying about.

Its "in god we trust" not "in ala we trust"

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  • das 2011/07/29 17:34:06
    Your choice of President
    Ron Paul
  • dbry30 2011/06/26 06:46:06
    Your choice of President
    clinton haha
  • KingdomNow 2011/06/25 00:28:37
    Bush merely had handlers. Obama is fully owned by America's enemies.
  • FedUpInWisconsin 2011/06/24 23:55:59
    Your choice of President
    Both are socialist warmongers with the intent of enlarging the executive powers of government.
  • I'm A TeenageDirtbag 2011/06/23 19:31:42
    I'm A TeenageDirtbag
  • none 2011/06/23 04:22:16
  • Dirtclimber 2011/06/23 02:57:39
    We should take a lesson from the bible in this instance and Never ever listen to a talking bush the last time we did moses spent 40yrs lost in the desert.
    My advice is Dont listen to a talking bush.
  • Phyl *In God i Trust* 2011/06/23 01:49:47
    Phyl *In God i Trust*
    bush over obama any day.
  • SmittenKitten 2011/06/23 00:27:14
  • Barrack... Smitten... 2011/06/23 06:08:44
    The point was he said he could turn it around but yet the statistics keep rising, your right 8 years is greater then two congratulations for pointing that out, however multiply Obama unemployment rate by 4 because the 2x4 equals 8 so if he was to run for 8 years are you saying the unemployment rate would be 19.2% ? and if he ran for 8 years would his debt be 26 trillion? cause that is all that i have understood from what you said, thanks for proving why you voted for obama.
  • Smitten... Barrack... 2011/06/23 14:04:08
  • Barrack... Smitten... 2011/06/24 01:27:44
    Your right but i remember him saying he would make changes, and so far all he has been doing is spending, but that's not why i replied.

    Your right he was in office when bin laden was killed but he did not do it, HE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, it was brought to his attention correct, but if i'm going to give him any credit for killing the terrorist it would be that it takes a terrorist to catch a terrorist. and he's a damn good one because i am terrified of him in office for another 4 years.
  • Smitten... Barrack... 2011/06/24 02:46:00
  • Barrack... Smitten... 2011/06/24 02:55:29
    They got a tip from locals and president obama ordered CIA and DEVGRU to take action on finding out who was there, My credit goes to CIA, DEVGRU, and the Seals who went in. He didn't make it a priority until they got a tip, so try again. If anything he has got very reasonable good luck for being in office when they received the tip.
  • Smitten... Barrack... 2011/06/24 04:02:35
  • Barrack... Smitten... 2011/06/24 05:03:47
    Sure no problem.
    My case is,
    Promises he failed,
    "Create a foreclosure prevention fund for homeowners"
    "Sign the Employee Free Choice Act, making it easier for workers to unionize"
    Those are just a couple.

    Things he has lied about or just didn't know what the hell he was talking about. vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv...
    "Under President Barack Obama, the United States has "doubled our exports."

    Says stories about his birth certificate drowned out media coverage of the Republican and White House budget plans the week of April 11.

    The president’s proposed budget "will help reduce the deficit by $400 billion over the next decade to the lowest level since Dwight Eisenhower was president."

    Under the White House’s budget proposal, "we will not be adding more to the national debt" by the middle of the decade.

    Twelve judges have thrown out legal challenges to the health care law because they rejected "the notion that the health care law was unconstitutional."

    "I didn't raise taxes once."

    When President Franklin D. Roosevelt started Social Security, "it only affected widows and orphans," and when Medicare began, "it was a small program."

    The Bush administration had been "giving (auto companies) billions of dollars and just asking nothing in return."

    "The vast majority ...

    Sure no problem.
    My case is,
    Promises he failed,
    "Create a foreclosure prevention fund for homeowners"
    "Sign the Employee Free Choice Act, making it easier for workers to unionize"
    Those are just a couple.

    Things he has lied about or just didn't know what the hell he was talking about. vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv...
    "Under President Barack Obama, the United States has "doubled our exports."

    Says stories about his birth certificate drowned out media coverage of the Republican and White House budget plans the week of April 11.

    The president’s proposed budget "will help reduce the deficit by $400 billion over the next decade to the lowest level since Dwight Eisenhower was president."

    Under the White House’s budget proposal, "we will not be adding more to the national debt" by the middle of the decade.

    Twelve judges have thrown out legal challenges to the health care law because they rejected "the notion that the health care law was unconstitutional."

    "I didn't raise taxes once."

    When President Franklin D. Roosevelt started Social Security, "it only affected widows and orphans," and when Medicare began, "it was a small program."

    The Bush administration had been "giving (auto companies) billions of dollars and just asking nothing in return."

    "The vast majority of the money I got was from small donors all across the country.''

    "We've excluded lobbyists from policymaking jobs."

    When Obama was interviewed by American reporters in Asia, "Not one of them asked me about Asia. Not one of them asked me about the economy."

    Insurers delayed an Illinois man's treatment, "and he died because of it."

    Health reform will "give every American the same opportunity" to buy health insurance the way members of Congress do.

    Preventive care "saves money."

    "If we went back to the obesity rates that existed back in the 1980s, the Medicare system over several years could save as much as a trillion dollars."

    "I have not said that I was a single-payer supporter."

    Stimulus tax cuts "began showing up in paychecks of 4.8 million Indiana households about three months ago."

    Health insurance companies are "making record profits, right now."

    "We import more oil today than ever before."

    "In eighth grade math, we’ve fallen to ninth place."

    "There is no disagreement that we need action by our government, a recovery plan that will help to jump-start the economy."

    "Senator McCain would pay for part of his (health care) plan by making drastic cuts in Medicare — $882-billion worth."

    "The centerpiece of Senator McCain's education policy is to increase the voucher program in D.C. by 2,000 slots."

    Under John McCain's health care plan, people get a $5,000 tax credit to buy a $12,000 health care policy, and "that's a loss for you."

    John McCain accused Barack Obama "of letting infants die."

    "Oil companies ...currently have 68-million acres that they're not using."

    McCain "has opposed stem cell research."

    "But if my opponent had his way, the millions of Floridians who rely on it would've had their Social Security tied up in the stock market this week."

    "The fact is that although we have had a president who is opposed to abortion over the last eight years, abortions have not gone down.''

    Oil companies "haven't touched" 68 million acres where they already have rights to drill.

    Fully inflating tires is "a step that every expert says would absolutely reduce our oil consumption by 3 to 4 percent."

    John McCain refuses to support a new bipartisan energy bill "because it would take away tax breaks from oil companies like Exxon Mobil."

    The U.S. government spends less on energy innovation "than the pet food industry invests in its own products."

    "Our National Guard, as we saw in the Midwest flooding, can't function as effectively as it could. I was talking to National Guard representatives. Fifteen of their 17 helicopters in this region were overseas during the flooding."

    "I think we came down here (to Florida) one time ... but we weren't actively fundraising here."

    "I have never said that I don't wear flag pins or refuse to wear flag pins."

    "He's promising four more years of an administration that will push for the privatization of Social Security..."

    "We are bogged down in a war that John McCain now suggests might go on for another 100 years."

    "Hillary Clinton believed NAFTA was a 'boon' to our economy."
    Those are not all and those are just from his campaign how many lies has he told us in office?
    facts at

    Here is a statement by barrack
    “seek a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world”
    Can you explain why he would want to do this, is it because his religion? because i think that a little unfair to the rest of the religions, is it not?
    If i was to take office and i gave benefits to Italians because later on in his speech that's what he says would that be fair? what happened to equal opportunity.

    Here in america we have a drop out rate of 9.1% i think it is maybe higher, but don't you think that is enough for the first lady to be worrying about kids here not in s. africa?
    Reasons he should not be the president of the US

    1. Obama believes unilateral disarmament will achieve a nuclear-free world
    The Obama administration may dream of a day when the world is free of nuclear weapons, but its lofty vision bears no relation to the realities of the modern world. Even the president of France believes that President Obama needs to live in the real world, not a virtual one, which is a rather damning indictment of US leadership. There is not a shred of evidence to suggest that Washington’s decision to cut its nuclear arsenal will encourage the likes of Iran and North Korea to disarm, and history has shown that a unilateral policy of disarmament will not prompt tyrannical regimes to change their behaviour.

    2. Obama thinks evil regimes can be negotiated with
    The naïve appeasement of practically every odious tyranny on the face of the earth has been a central hallmark of Barack Obama’s foreign policy. From extending the hand of friendship to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Hugo Chavez, to turning a blind eye to horrific human rights abuses in Iran, Sudan, Zimbabwe and Burma, the Obama administration has made the art of appeasement into an art form under the guise of “smart power”. It is a morally bankrupt approach to foreign policy, epitomised by the words of Obama’s special envoy to Sudan, retired Air Force Major General J. Scott Gration, who declared:
    “We’ve got to think about giving out cookies. Kids, countries — they react to gold stars, smiley faces, handshakes, agreements, talk, engagement.”

    3. Obama doesn’t believe America is fighting a global war
    Within weeks of taking office, the Obama administration dropped the phrase “Global War on Terror” in favour of “Overseas Contingency Operation”, and has gone to great lengths since then to emphasise that the United States is not engaged in a world wide war against Islamist terrorists who seek the destruction of America. As Vice President Joe Biden put it at last year’s Munich Security Conference, the US was involved in “a shared struggle against extremism” and a fight against “a small number of violent extremists (who) are beyond the call of reason”. Can you imagine Winston Churchill or Franklin D. Roosevelt declaring in 1943 that World War Two was a mere “struggle” against a small band of fascist extremists? Al-Qaeda killed over 3,000 Americans on 9/11, and their sole aim is the destruction of the West and the establishment of an Islamist caliphate. If that’s not a declaration of war I don’t know what is.

    4. Obama believes increasing spending and raising taxes leads to prosperity
    While even the Germans are balking at spending more taxpayers’ money to stimulate the economy or bail out failing members of the Eurozone, the Obama administration seems determined to build up ever greater levels of government debt, with vastly expanded entitlement programmes and government spending. At the same time, Paul Volcker, its chief economic adviser, is dangling the prospect of additional European-style taxes to pay for it all, the surest way to kill economic growth and stifle job creation. As the recent success of countries like Hong Kong, Singapore, Australia and New Zealand attest, economic growth and prosperity is directly linked to limited government intervention, low taxation, and above all, economic freedom.

    5. Obama thinks government-run health care is good for America
    In the face of overwhelming public opposition, Barack Obama’s health care reform legislation represents the biggest expansion of government power in over 70 years, and is a major step towards a government-run health care system. It is a hugely naïve and risky social experiment in a nation whose success has always been driven by the principle of individual freedom. As I noted before, what we have just witnessed is a massive slap in the face for limited government and the principle of individual responsibility. Its net result will be the erosion of freedom in America, and a further undermining of the country’s economic competitiveness. This may be a political victory for the president and his supporters in Congress, but it is in reality a defeat for America as a great power, and another Obama-led step towards US decline.

    6. Obama doesn’t believe in American exceptionalism
    President Obama has made it clear that he doesn’t think that American exceptionalism is any different to the “exceptionalism” of other countries. He also believes that “no one nation can or should try to dominate another nation. No world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will succeed. No balance of power among nations will hold.” Not only is this a staggeringly naïve position to adopt as the leader of the world’s dominant superpower, but it is also an astonishing declaration that the United States is no better than any other nation, and has no right to project its values onto other countries – which is exactly what the US successfully did in Germany and Japan in 1945, Afghanistan in 2001 and Iraq in 2003. It is both a striking abdication of world leadership as well as an egalitarian vision of the world, and one that significantly undermines American global power.

    7. Obama believes alliances don’t matter
    No American president in modern times has invested less effort in maintaining US alliances than Barack Obama. Whether it is siding with Marxists in Honduras against pro-American forces, condemning Israel, throwing the Poles and Czechs under the bus, or trashing the Anglo-American Special Relationship, the Obama administration has gone out of its way to kick its allies in the teeth while kowtowing to America’s enemies. Great Britain and Israel in particular have borne the brunt of Barack Obama’s disdain, with the leaders of both countries humiliated during visits to the White House. For a president who boasted in his election campaign of restoring America’s “standing” in the world, Obama has done a spectacularly bad job of preserving friendships with Washington’s closest friends.

    8. Obama trusts Russia
    A central element of President Obama’s nuclear deal with Moscow is the naive belief that Russia can be trusted as a partner of the United States, and that the treaty does not impose restrictions on America’s ability to deploy missile defences. The Russians in contrast have made it abundantly clear that there is a “legally binding linkage between strategic offensive and strategic defensive weapons.” In other words they expect to have a veto over a US missile defense system. The Obama administration has already bowed to Moscow’s demands to scrap US plans for third site missile defences in eastern and central Europe, and will no doubt surrender again when Moscow makes further demands. At the same time, there is no sign that Russia will support significantly stronger sanctions against Iran. In effect, Washington has gained nothing at all from its “reset” strategy towards Medvedev and Putin, but merely looks like a soft touch in the eyes of the Kremlin.

    9. Obama believes the UN is indispensable
    President Obama’s speech before the United Nations General Assembly last September has to rank as the most embarrassing so far of his presidency, cheered to the rafters by an audience that traditionally hates what America stands for. As I wrote at the time, this was a staggeringly naïve speech by President Obama, with Woodstock-style utterances like “I will not waver in my pursuit of peace” or “the interests of peoples and nations are shared.” All that was missing was a conga of hippies dancing through the aisles with a rousing rendition of “Kumbaya”. It was a speech fitting for a president who believes the United Nations is “indispensable” to the United States, and who thinks the UN Human Rights Commission is a force for good. In reality, the UN’s elites dedicate much of their efforts at undermining American power, persecuting Israel, wasting taxpayers’ money, and shielding human rights violators.

    10. Obama believes a federal Europe is good for America
    The Obama administration has gone to considerable lengths to back the development of a European Union defence identity as well as a European Union foreign policy, both of which will weaken the NATO alliance as well as the broader transatlantic alliance. This is the first US administration to actively back the rise of a federal Europe, and whose key players on European issues actually believe a united Europe is good for the United States. It is an extraordinarily naïve approach which will eventually bite Washington in the back. Even the spectacularly embarrassing appointments of both Herman Van Rompuy and Baroness Ashton as President and High Representative for the European Union have not succeeded in dimming the enthusiasm of the Obama team for the European project.

    Things he has done wrong.

    1) The tax cut that failed: The administration likes to brag that the stimulus was comprised substantially of tax cuts. Look how bipartisan! Only the tax cut they included was the Making Work Pay tax cut from the campaign. You don't get bipartisan points for doing the thing you wanted to do anyway, and they didn't. They also designed the tax cut to release slowly and be completely invisible to the people receiving it. This, they hoped, would make people spend more of the money. It's hard to say if it worked (Jared Bernstein convinced me that survey data isn't enough to say it didn't work). But politically, it's left only one out of 10 Americans aware that the Obama administration lowered their taxes.

    2) Neglecting the Federal Reserve: Matthew Yglesias has made this critique better than I could've, so I'll outsource it to him. "A party whose leaders realized that economic results were the most important driver of public opinion wouldn't have renominated a conservative Republican to head the Federal Reserve. Even more astoundingly, having given Ben Bernanke a second term in office, the Obama administration didn't get around to nominating anyone to fill the other vacant posts on the Federal Reserve Board until April 2010."

    3) The Fiscal Commission: I've come to see the "National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform" as a major error on at least a few levels. Remember, first, that it's a powerless executive body created after Republicans filibustered a bill that would've created a similar, but more powerful, commission in Congress. They did that because they didn't want to compromise on taxes. They're not going to compromise in the president's commission, either. So on the simplest level, the commission will fail, but in order to pretend it hasn't failed, it'll probably release some Social Security cuts that we probably shouldn't make anyway.

    Worse, creating the Fiscal Commission accepted the argument that the problem is the deficit. It isn't. If the president wanted to change the economic conversation and show himself thinking long-term, we should've had an effort focused on a long-term growth strategy, in which fiscal sustainability would've been one pillar, but not the only pillar. Instead, the Commission's report will be a battle over deficit reduction in general and, most likely, Social Security in particular. Those are battles that Democrats -- and the economy -- will lose even if they win. How much better to have offered some deal this year pairing long-term deficit reduction with immediate stimulus, or to be looking towards a report next year that would be about growth and reform, not just about how best to manage contraction.

    4) The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act: I struggle with this one. The stimulus included measures designed to create jobs and help the economy immediately and measures designed to make investments and strengthen the economy over the longer-term. As a matter of policy, I fully support that. As a matter of politics, I think it made the bill look worse to people who didn't understand -- or support -- the dual mandate. Splitting the bills in two would've allowed for a cleaner stimulus, but it might have meant we didn't get the second bill -- and we needed it. Forcing the medical system to move towards electronic medical records was incredibly important. Which is why I'm conflicted on this.

    5) The size and sale of the stimulus: By now, this is a familiar critique. Christina Romer thought we needed $1.2 trillion in stimulus. Then the recession turned out to be larger than we'd calculated. Then we got just $787 billion -- and not all of that was stimulus. I'm not here to argue about whether the administration could've gotten more by working Congress harder. I'm not smarter than Rahm Emanuel or Phil Schiliro. But the fact that this was a half-measure should have been communicated to the American people. Instead, we got figures and rhetoric arguing that a stimulus of this size would be sufficient. When it wasn't, the idea itself got discredited.

    6) It's the procedure, stupid: Here are four words we've really not heard out of the Obama administration: "Up-or-down vote." Obama has spoken occasionally about the filibuster, but the relentless perversion of the legislative process has not been made into a sufficient issue. The administration complains that they can only do what they can do, and they'd have done more if not for Congress, but there's been little effort and no political capital spent explaining -- much less changing -- the impediments to action. Many Americans think the administration has failed, and they've hardly even been exposed to the argument that they were actually stopped. Republican obstruction has been predictable since, at the least, the stimulus vote, but they never figured out a way to force the issue, or even really make it part of the story.

    There are more, of course. But those are the six that spring to mind first.

    Get back to me that part of my case and i would love to present more.
    One more thing,

    I have a personal question for you what happens when 100,000 troops are back from Iraq/Afghanistan and looking for work will that help our economy? and decrease our unemployment? at least when they are there they are protecting the US and getting paid.
  • Smitten... Barrack... 2011/06/24 06:01:50
  • Barrack... Smitten... 2011/06/24 06:16:26
    The argument is endless, however i would like to add you as a friend and when election dates roll around we will have another chat remember majority rules, if he is re-elected your correct he is just as (good or bad or however you put that) as bush, now if he isn't re-elected i am correct, and that means bush was better and that will be a fact when the time rolls around, that was why i started the poll.
  • Smitten... Barrack... 2011/06/24 13:08:13
  • Ron the Realist 2011/06/23 00:04:32
    Your choice of President
    Ron the Realist
    Clearly the little boy president is in well beyond his capabilities. It's sad to say his selection of advisers if no better than his governing abilities. He was an exemplar of the Peter Principle when he was only a US Senator. Sadly, too many naive children voted for one just like themselves.
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2011/06/22 23:38:31
    It isn't even a horse race. GW was so incompetent in his job.
  • Barrack... ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2011/06/22 23:41:34
    If you had read any of the description then you could at least agree that he didn't better job then obamas doing.
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ Barrack... 2011/06/22 23:49:19
    I read the entire article. Don't accuse me of not reading the description when you don't like my answer. It's was comparing statistics from one president to the other. My answer stands.
  • randy 2011/06/22 23:19:25
    Your choice of President
    Bush, Obama, same stink, different pile..............

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