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Bush or Bonds: Who belongs in prison more?
Gramma Lil November 16, 2007 08:16:27
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They said Bonds is a liar and belongs in prison for 30 years. Well I say Bush is a bigger liar. He lied multiple times to the American people. Makes me wonder how many years in prison should he get.
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George W. Bush
Firstly and foremost. The man entered Iraq without provocation. Among the many other war crimes, this is the one that sticks out like a sore thumb.View thread
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On what basis do you claim that there is no war on terror? I've got a 21 year old nephew serving in Iraq and a 40 year old brother serving in Afghanistan whom I believe both would disagree with your assessment.
As for the WMD, yes, we have found hundreds of WMD in Iraq. Along with the WMD, we also discovered 550 tons of yellow cake uranium. Do you not follow the news? This war was in no way a mistake!! An evil dictator was removed forever from power and later removed from this world completely, making the world that much safer for the peace loving countries of the world.
"It's all over the TV"?? Would that be CNN or MSNBC?
Are you aware of the existence of the the videos below which show first hand the brutality of Saddam Hussein? If not, perhaps you should take a look at them to see who you are defending. We "terrorized" them?? You must be joking!! That piece of shit is sitting in Hell right now right where he belongs and we have George Bush and the American military to thank for that.
Click on each of the four chapters to see Saddam's regime in action. But, make sure you haven't eaten recently.
This is who you are defending and who we "terrorized".
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As for the WMD, yes, we have found hundreds of WMD in Iraq. Along with the WMD, we also discovered 550 tons of yellow cake uranium. Do you not follow the news? This war was in no way a mistake!! An evil dictator was removed forever from power and later removed from this world completely, making the world that much safer for the peace loving countries of the world.
"It's all over the TV"?? Would that be CNN or MSNBC?
Are you aware of the existence of the the videos below which show first hand the brutality of Saddam Hussein? If not, perhaps you should take a look at them to see who you are defending. We "terrorized" them?? You must be joking!! That piece of shit is sitting in Hell right now right where he belongs and we have George Bush and the American military to thank for that.
Click on each of the four chapters to see Saddam's regime in action. But, make sure you haven't eaten recently.
This is who you are defending and who we "terrorized".
http://fdd.typepad.com/fdd/20...
Way back in 98, Bill Clinton gave a speech on the steps of the Capitol calling for regime change in Iraq. 911, was just another reason to remove him from power.
I have no idea how many innocent Iraqi children died but I can tell you that they weren't targeted.
We have every right in the world to invade a country when the country in question has violated a Cease Fire Agreement, which they made with us requiring them to disarm and allow weapons inspectors to do their job.
Of course they aren't telling us what to do. We won the Gulf War and they lost. When a country is a LOSER in a war, certain concessions must be made by the LOSER to the victor. That is what ends the war and keeps the victor from going in and occupying the LOSING country. They NEVER for 12 years lived up to the concessions they agreed to with the signing of the Gulf War Cease Fire Agreement. They violated 17 UN resolutions to disarm and allow weapons inspectors to do their job to see if they were living up to the GWCFA, which they of course were not. If you don't believe what I'm saying because it wasn't been reported on CNN, MSNBC or the BBC, do some of your own research and see what you come up with.
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Way back in 98, Bill Clinton gave a speech on the steps of the Capitol calling for regime change in Iraq. 911, was just another reason to remove him from power.
I have no idea how many innocent Iraqi children died but I can tell you that they weren't targeted.
We have every right in the world to invade a country when the country in question has violated a Cease Fire Agreement, which they made with us requiring them to disarm and allow weapons inspectors to do their job.
Of course they aren't telling us what to do. We won the Gulf War and they lost. When a country is a LOSER in a war, certain concessions must be made by the LOSER to the victor. That is what ends the war and keeps the victor from going in and occupying the LOSING country. They NEVER for 12 years lived up to the concessions they agreed to with the signing of the Gulf War Cease Fire Agreement. They violated 17 UN resolutions to disarm and allow weapons inspectors to do their job to see if they were living up to the GWCFA, which they of course were not. If you don't believe what I'm saying because it wasn't been reported on CNN, MSNBC or the BBC, do some of your own research and see what you come up with.
I don't give a flying RIP what the rest of the world thinks. They sure as HELL aren't going to lift a finger to help us so why should we be concerned at all with what those cowards think.
You would do well to quit listening to that left wing garbage that CNN, MSNBC and the BBC spews, They are all anti-military and anti-America.
and as I said, even the high priest of liberalism in the 90's, Bill Clinton himself, called for regime change in Iraq as far back as 1998.
But as always, I do thank you for your opinion.
We invaded Iraq to remove Saddam from Power. Regime change was one of the remedies should Saddam not honor the GWCFA, which he didn't. He knew a consequence of his violating the agreement could result in military action, which it did. He was offered an opportunity to step down and live out his remaining years in exile as Napolean did at Saint Helena. He could have kept his money and lived a far better life than most of us ever will but he chose to stupidly go up against a country that had already decimated his army once before.
I'm not a warmonger. I don't like war but sometimes, it can not be avoided. I am however a pragmatist and as such, I understand the importance of defending oneself when necessary. Sometimes that defense must be proactive rather than reactive.
You keep running off this B.S. in an attempt to justify the stupidity of Bush. He has YOUR relatives and MINE, being slaughtered in an unecessary WAR! WAKE UP!!!!
Do you realize that numerous plots to attack us have been thwarted under Bush since 911? If we were as vulnerable as you think we are, they would have been successful in their plotting.
Actually, bin Laden is not considered a viable threat at the moment. Are you aware that the leadership of Al-Qaeda has been nearly decimated over the last 12 months by our Predator drones. The threat of the moment, is Iran and possibly Russia.
None of my relatives have been slaughtered in this very necessary war and I'm WIDE AWAKE but, I do thank you for your opinion.
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George W. Bush
As someone else stated, Barry Bonds has committed an actual crime and needs to be tried, while Bush hasn't committed any crimes.
Secondly, it is due to his actions that many evil people are now dead who wanted nothing more than to kill us.
Thirdly, the Iraqis now have the opportunity to enjoy the same freedoms that come with democracy that we all enjoy in the U.S.
Lastly, Saddam and his WMD's will never again be a threat to the peace loving countries of the Middle East or any one at all for that matter.
They want us out so they can move in and set up an operation like they had in Afghanistan.
You people that think oil was the reason we removed an evil dictator from power, I just don't understand. It sounds as if you've been listening to Michael Moore and Bill Mahr far too much. Was oil the reason Bill Clinton called for regime change as well back in 1998. I mean was oil a part of the equation back then as well?? Isn't it possible that oil had nothing to do with the war? Do you have definitive evidence that oil was the reason we went to war? If so, please provide it. I would love to see it. If it were oil, why didn't the price spike immediately upon the invasion? For the most part, the price remained relatively stable for several years after the war began. It didn't really start spiking until earlier this year, which Bush had nothing to do with. Although, he was responsible for it coming down this summer but of course he doesn't get credit for that either from people like you.
I would be shocked if bin Laden is even alive anymore. I don't think we have anything to worry about with him. In fact, the report on Al Qaeda is that it has been decimated in Iraq in the last 12 months, thanks to the surge, which Barack Obama was...""
You people that think oil was the reason we removed an evil dictator from power, I just don't understand. It sounds as if you've been listening to Michael Moore and Bill Mahr far too much. Was oil the reason Bill Clinton called for regime change as well back in 1998. I mean was oil a part of the equation back then as well?? Isn't it possible that oil had nothing to do with the war? Do you have definitive evidence that oil was the reason we went to war? If so, please provide it. I would love to see it. If it were oil, why didn't the price spike immediately upon the invasion? For the most part, the price remained relatively stable for several years after the war began. It didn't really start spiking until earlier this year, which Bush had nothing to do with. Although, he was responsible for it coming down this summer but of course he doesn't get credit for that either from people like you.
I would be shocked if bin Laden is even alive anymore. I don't think we have anything to worry about with him. In fact, the report on Al Qaeda is that it has been decimated in Iraq in the last 12 months, thanks to the surge, which Barack Obama was against. For many of the Iraqi people, they are enjoying for the first time in their lives the benefits of living in a free and democratic society. A society where they now have a voice in their future. Before, they had no voice and no future due to the iron fisted rule of Saddam Hussein. If the reporter who threw his shoes at Bush had thrown his shoes at Saddam, he would have most likely been cut up in to little pieces or at the very least, disappeared to never be heard from again. The irony is that he is angry at Bush, yet it was Bush who has given him the freedom to throw his shoes at Bush without being killed. He will most likely go to prison for a short while but he wont be killed, at least not by the government.
Actually, he was going after the real culprit, which is why we bombed and invaded Afghanistan less than 30 days after 911. So, this comment about him not having "balls to go after the real culprit", is absolutely incorrect. Whereas, The invasion of Iraq did not take place until a year and a half after 911.
I don't have to have evidence to prove oil was not the reason. YOU are the one making the claim that oil IS the reason for the war so I'm asking you to either put up or shut up. In a court of law, when someone makes an accusation against another, it is up to the accuser to provide the evidence to prove their case. In other words, the burden of proof is on you. I understand this is not a court of law but rather a court of public opinion but President Bush should be afforded the same rights under our Constitution of any accused citizen.
We did attack those responsible, in Oct of 01!!
It wasn't just not abided by in 1998, it goes back much further than that. I...
I don't have to have evidence to prove oil was not the reason. YOU are the one making the claim that oil IS the reason for the war so I'm asking you to either put up or shut up. In a court of law, when someone makes an accusation against another, it is up to the accuser to provide the evidence to prove their case. In other words, the burden of proof is on you. I understand this is not a court of law but rather a court of public opinion but President Bush should be afforded the same rights under our Constitution of any accused citizen.
We did attack those responsible, in Oct of 01!!
It wasn't just not abided by in 1998, it goes back much further than that. It was in 1998 that Clinton finally decided to do something about it. But, they had been in violation of the treaty since it was signed in March of 91.
According to an article in the Christian Science Monitor, dated Nov 06, 2002http://www.csmonitor.com/...
between 1991 and 1995, UN inspectors uncovered a massive program to develop biological and nuclear weapons by Saddam Hussein. They were caught red-handed in 1995 and were forced to admit that they were manufacturing biological toxins. Even after this admission, Saddam still continued to violate the GWCFA. At every opportunity he was given to comply with the GWCFA, he defied it, from day one up until the 2003 invasion. I suspect that the reason Clinton "all of a sudden" got serious about Iraq's failure to comply with the GWCFA, was an attempt on his part to look presidential in the wake of the Monica Lewinsky scandal but that's just speculation on my part. Add to that the fact that he was facing impeachment proceedings and it certainly calls into question his "all of a sudden" response after 7 years of violations by Iraq.
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George W. Bush however not only involved ALL AMERICANS but nearly all people on this planet!
That a hayseed backwoods farm boy doing nothing but living off his daddys fame(which I might add is not all that reputable) could cause this much death and distruction and the complete ruination of the reputation of the U.S.A. and it's people is mindboggeling.
His Mother and Father should be so ASHAMED that they let this moronic creep loose on society they should never show their faces at a BBQ again!
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Smokey
There may not would have been a 9/11 if he'd taken care of business instead of getting blow jobs and chasing women around the White House.
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