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Bryan Fischer Believes That Children Of Same-Sex Couples Must Be Saved Through ‘Underground Railroad’ Kidnapping; Do You?

☠ Live Free Or Die ☠ 2012/08/08 23:12:44


By Zack Ford on Aug 8, 2012 at 9:01 am






The American Family Association’s Bryan Fischer has sunk to a new, disturbing low with his anti-gay statements. In two separate tweets
last night, he called for an “Underground Railroad to deliver innocent
children from same-sex households.” In one tweet he was referring to
the sad story of Lisa Miller,
who, after declaring herself ex-gay, kidnapped her daughter away to
Central America to prevent her former partner from having any custody.
(She is still being tracked by federal agents as a fugitive of the law.)


In the other tweet, Fischer referred to the testimony of a individual named Robert Oscar Lopez, who blames all of his social problems on being raised by his mom and her lesbian partner. Here’s a sampling:


Inside, however, I was confused. When your home life is
so drastically different from everyone around you, in a fundamental way
striking at basic physical relations, you grow up weird. I have no
mental health disorders or biological conditions. I just grew up in a house so unusual that I was destined to exist as a social outcast.[...]


Life is hard when you are strange. Even now, I have very few friends
and often feel as though I do not understand people because of the
unspoken gender cues that everyone around me, even gays raised in
traditional homes, takes for granted. Though I am hard-working and a
quick learner, I have trouble in professional settings because
co-workers find me bizarre.


Perhaps unfamiliar with the concepts of self-fulfilling prophesies
and internalized homophobia, this man’s odd testimony seems to attack
gay parenting merely because he believes his bisexual mother’s decision
to live with a woman made it a struggle for him to identify as bisexual
himself. Unlike his mother, his preference seems to be to conform to
heteronormative society, and he feels unable to do that because he feels
he wasn’t properly conditioned by archaic gender stereotypes. Given the
added incentive to defend Mark Regnerus’ “bullshit” faulty study
attacking gay parenting, he is clearly trying to pin his panoply of
personal problems on his mother (and all same-sex parents as a result.)
His story is not a valid representation of anything except his own
unique perception of the world.


And yet, Bryan Fischer believes it to be the perfect example of why
the children of same-sex parents should be kidnapped away for their
protection — that they are the equivalent of slaves who need to be
rescued. This is incredibly dangerous rhetoric that has the potential to
do great harm. How much destruction could self-declared “Harriet
Tubmans” do to same-sex families, motivated by Fischer’s claims? More
than ever, the “culture war” is a direct attack on the lives of LGBT and
their families.

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  • Simmering Frog 2012/08/08 23:21:34 (edited)
    Simmering Frog
    +8
    children of homosexual couples

    Here's a post where they are trying to make an absurdity (gay adoption) make an absurdity (gay marriage) appear normal. It isn't.

    The left's exploitation of children to push the gay agenda is the most twisted, sickest, mental disorder ever. Liberalism IS a mental disorder. Children should be adopted for the benefit of the child, not the gay couple. Gay couples do not and CAN NOT provide what a normal man/woman combination offers. Don't even challenge me on that because you won't win.

    Watch this. You'll have all the left wingers on Sodahead ganging up to swarm this question in the effort to make gay marriage appear normal. It isn't. The whole agenda is a disorder. And quit exploiting children in the process.

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  • Alexander T Steward 2012/09/11 20:38:35
    Alexander T Steward
    It's not like this RepTard fantasy will ever happen.
  • Jack Sprat 2012/08/11 20:25:49 (edited)
    Jack Sprat
    Fischer may be wrong in his methods, but declaring the "victim" Robert Oscar Lopez was also. leaves only the choice of you denying the truth. Trying to make the case that unconventional life styles will some how lead to health homes is quite the stretch. A friend of mine tells me about vignettes of his son and his sons “other” raising a young girl, what he tells me shows even more the absolute confusion of a child growing up in an “nontraditional” household. Even a “step” house hold has more of a chance to grow up normal that do any children suffering the insanity of two people with obvious sexual identity crisis, confusion and conflict who have gone to the extreme in acting them out.


    The 2003-2004 Gay/Lesbian Consumer Online Census surveyed the lifestyles of 7,862 homosexuals.


    http://www.frc.org/img/item/I...



    as opposed to this excluding the shear numbers differences between the two groups


    http://www.frc.org/img/item/I...


    Additional facts


    · In The Sexual Organization of the City, University of Chicago sociologist Edward Laumann argues that "typical gay city inhabitants spend most of their adult lives in 'transactional' relationships, or short-term commitments of less than six months."[5]

    · A study of homosexual men in the Netherlands published in the jour...



    Fischer may be wrong in his methods, but declaring the "victim" Robert Oscar Lopez was also. leaves only the choice of you denying the truth. Trying to make the case that unconventional life styles will some how lead to health homes is quite the stretch. A friend of mine tells me about vignettes of his son and his sons “other” raising a young girl, what he tells me shows even more the absolute confusion of a child growing up in an “nontraditional” household. Even a “step” house hold has more of a chance to grow up normal that do any children suffering the insanity of two people with obvious sexual identity crisis, confusion and conflict who have gone to the extreme in acting them out.


    The 2003-2004 Gay/Lesbian Consumer Online Census surveyed the lifestyles of 7,862 homosexuals.


    http://www.frc.org/img/item/I...



    as opposed to this excluding the shear numbers differences between the two groups


    http://www.frc.org/img/item/I...


    Additional facts


    · In The Sexual Organization of the City, University of Chicago sociologist Edward Laumann argues that "typical gay city inhabitants spend most of their adult lives in 'transactional' relationships, or short-term commitments of less than six months."[5]

    · A study of homosexual men in the Netherlands published in the journal AIDS found that the "duration of steady partnerships" was 1.5 years.[6]

    · In his study of male homosexuality in Western Sexuality: Practice and Precept in Past and Present Times, Pollak found that "few homosexual relationships last longer than two years, with many men reporting hundreds of lifetime partners."[7]

    · In Male and Female Homosexuality, Saghir and Robins found that the average male homosexual live-in relationship lasts between two and three years.[8]
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  • Jacob Torres 2012/08/09 03:51:23
    Jacob Torres
    +1
    Wasn't there an episode of American Dad where Stan tries to "save" some kid from a lesbian couple by kidnapping him and driving him across the state line? Parody is becoming reality.
  • ☠ Live ... Jacob T... 2012/08/09 22:03:16
    ☠ Live Free Or Die ☠
    Yes. And here I thought that nobody actually thought that way. :(
  • poet4justice 2012/08/09 00:02:12
    poet4justice
    +3
    Say what!11. This hater so stupid that you can't win with them... they want to kidnap the kid from loving Home and put them foster home where they can. Be blame again for being welfare kid
  • ☠ Live ... poet4ju... 2012/08/09 00:08:23
  • Joanie ☠ Live ... 2012/08/09 00:37:34
    Joanie
    +3
    Yes, in a supreme irony, the bigoted Christians claim that the people who judge them harshly for their bigotry are "haters" and anti-Christian "bigots". This rhetorical shift would have made Big Brother proud in Orwell's 1984.
  • ☠ Live ... Joanie 2012/08/09 00:40:42
    ☠ Live Free Or Die ☠
    +1
    Yup. We can say whatever we want, but if you even think of criticizing us, you hate Christians, and you hate free speech!
  • Jack Sprat Joanie 2012/08/11 20:42:29
    Jack Sprat
    As said elsewhere....

    "Speaking of Big Brother how about the BO admin's science czar who proposed to have abortions legal up to the age of 2 and wanted to put Pat Robertson has never come out with anything like this, and frankly I and most other Christians have never heard of Fischer, oddly we all know Holdren who wanted to have abortions up to the age of 2 years old and put sterililant in the drinking water. At least you should know him he's one of the Prez's Czars, not to mention the "fearless leader" of Earth First who want to pare down the Earth's population from it's current 7 billion to 100 million 'or so'.

    Might want to quit talking about all those "Christian crazies".
    into the drinking water?"
  • Joanie Jack Sprat 2012/08/13 13:19:05
    Joanie
    You are proof of what I said.
  • Jack Sprat Joanie 2012/08/13 22:09:34
  • Joanie Jack Sprat 2012/08/13 23:00:57
    Joanie
    No, I am not for the abortion of children up to the age of 2, nor am I in favor of the killing of anyone. I simply think you are proof of the existence of Christian Crazies.
  • Jack Sprat Joanie 2012/08/16 21:52:21 (edited)
    Jack Sprat
    How about the secular 'crazies'....you know your people......

    secular crazies people

    Or maybe your OWS "Crazies"......

    all my heros kill cops

    Oh and joanie, the 1984 book was based on Socialists, well like you and your prefered policies.....Oddly Jeanie, you are the epitome of the "two sides of "Big Brother", or do you live in a town were you can have a "Big Gulp" over 16 ozs, smoke in your own home or have your children eat the bagged lunch you sent them to school with?

  • Prairie Wind 2012/08/08 23:50:03
    Prairie Wind
    +3
    Those whom were actively involved in the "Underground Railroad" would be extremely repulsed at the thought of permitting such behavior, suggested here, to even occur either in their presence or with their support.

    They would have left those attempting, as a result of the Emancipation to advance beyond the culture they knew, now into one opposite they were most familiar with to advance their education and employment opportunities, would be left south of the Ohio river.
  • Transquesta 2012/08/08 23:48:58 (edited)
    Transquesta
    +4
    Oh HELL no! This is what stupid looks like after being pumped up on PCP, steroids and bath salts--and then slapped around awhile just to get it good and pissed off!

    Please, guys, believe me. Take it from this Christian that not all of us are phucking whack jobs!!
  • ☠ Live ... Transqu... 2012/08/08 23:49:31
    ☠ Live Free Or Die ☠
    +1
    I believe you!
  • Transqu... ☠ Live ... 2012/08/09 00:01:43
    Transquesta
    +2
    It's at times like this when Christians have to come out in vociferous and foursquare opposition to this kind of insanity!!
  • ☠ Live ... Transqu... 2012/08/09 00:10:22
    ☠ Live Free Or Die ☠
    +1
    Unfortunately, crazies like Pat Robertson and Bryan Fischer often drown out the sane Christians. :(
  • Jack Sprat ☠ Live ... 2012/08/11 20:37:40 (edited)
    Jack Sprat
    Pat Robertson has never come out with anything like this, and frankly I and most other Christians have never heard of Fischer, oddly we all know Holdren who wanted to have abortions up to the age of 2 years old and put sterililant in the drinking water. At least you should know him he's one of the Prez's Czars, not to mention the "fearless leader" of Earth First who want to pare down the Earth's population from it's current 7 billion to 100 million 'or so'.

    Might want to quit talking about all those "Christian crazies".
  • Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~ 2012/08/08 23:46:12
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    +2
    That's normal... However, why isn't he more worried about single parents? After all, they're only one sex as well, and they are less financially able to look after children. Which means that his argument is born out of hatred.
  • ☠ Live ... Anonymo... 2012/08/08 23:47:21
  • Anonymo... ☠ Live ... 2012/08/08 23:48:36
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    +2
    No, Same sex couples have rights to abortion.
  • ☠ Live ... Anonymo... 2012/08/08 23:50:08
    ☠ Live Free Or Die ☠
    Can't imagine why they'd need it, but okay. ;P lol
  • Link 2012/08/08 23:32:42
    Link
    +4
    Not only NO, but HELL NO!!! He's a crack-pot moron, intolerant and prejudiced...

    It is well-known that children raised in same-sex couple's homes are just as loved, just as cared for, just as educated and just as secure (and in many cases, even more) than in hetero couple's homes...

    And, furthermore, it does NOT mean that they are being "brought up" and "taught" the gay lifestyle... It DOES mean that they're being brought up more well-rounded and more informed...
  • Crypt_Heart 2012/08/08 23:26:31
    Crypt_Heart
    +1
    Hitler was brought up in a straight, religious (Catholic) household. That right there is an argument to have all children brought up in gay/irreligious households.
  • ☠ Live ... Crypt_H... 2012/08/08 23:30:58
    ☠ Live Free Or Die ☠
    +1
    They can use gross over generalizations; why can't we?
  • Crypt_H... ☠ Live ... 2012/08/08 23:32:51
    Crypt_Heart
    +1
    XD I'm glad the sarcasm came over well =P
  • Tastentier Crypt_H... 2012/08/08 23:42:12
    Tastentier
    +2
    He turned out straight though :) A straight megalomaniac sociopath.
  • Crypt_H... Tastentier 2012/08/09 00:53:26
    Crypt_Heart
    +1
    That's precisely my point. If you're straight, you're 10x more likely to become a mass murderer!
  • FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX 2012/08/08 23:24:28
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    +5
    That's a very good idea. Kidnapping is a death penalty offense.
  • Crypt_H... FAWKES'... 2012/08/08 23:27:01
    Crypt_Heart
    +2
    What about conspiracy to kidnap?
  • Link FAWKES'... 2012/08/08 23:34:39
    Link
    +1
    You DO have a point... if they kidnap (or conspire to kidnap) a child, then they get caught and get thrown away for a long time, getting them off the street and out of politics and out of religion, thereby cleaning up the system from such morons...
  • ☠ Live ... Link 2012/08/08 23:37:44
    ☠ Live Free Or Die ☠
    +1
    Not good enough! The American tax payer still has to pay to keep them alive in jail.

    I say we go old school.

    Fed to lions
  • Link ☠ Live ... 2012/08/08 23:40:32
    Link
    +1
    LOL... Point is, he's an ass...
  • ☠ Live ... Link 2012/08/08 23:41:24
    ☠ Live Free Or Die ☠
    A major ass!
  • kevracer 2012/08/08 23:24:21
    kevracer
    +3
    perhaps Bryan Fischer should concentrate on the problem of these Christians having so many gay babies
  • Simmering Frog 2012/08/08 23:21:34 (edited)
    Simmering Frog
    +8
    children of homosexual couples

    Here's a post where they are trying to make an absurdity (gay adoption) make an absurdity (gay marriage) appear normal. It isn't.

    The left's exploitation of children to push the gay agenda is the most twisted, sickest, mental disorder ever. Liberalism IS a mental disorder. Children should be adopted for the benefit of the child, not the gay couple. Gay couples do not and CAN NOT provide what a normal man/woman combination offers. Don't even challenge me on that because you won't win.

    Watch this. You'll have all the left wingers on Sodahead ganging up to swarm this question in the effort to make gay marriage appear normal. It isn't. The whole agenda is a disorder. And quit exploiting children in the process.
  • ☠ Live ... Simmeri... 2012/08/08 23:22:29
    ☠ Live Free Or Die ☠
    +2
    Oh, wah, wah, wah!!!

    Kidnapping is still illegal.
  • Crypt_H... Simmeri... 2012/08/08 23:27:51
    Crypt_Heart
    +2
    You my friend are a disorder.
  • Simmeri... Crypt_H... 2012/08/08 23:32:00 (edited)
    Simmering Frog
    +5
    Not at all. I simply subscribe to what has worked best for the society for the last two thousand years. What? Are you simply erasing history? And you call me the disorder? You are the one supporting a misguided agenda.

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