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Bradley Manning - 2+ Years Without Trial: Fair or Foul?

JMCC 2012/08/20 09:53:46
Fair - guilty until proven innocent.
Foul - innocent until proven guilty.
None of the above
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The harsh conditions forced upon Bradley Manning
in military detention have been laid out in detail as part of a court
filing in which the US army is accused of a "flagrant violation" of his
right not to be punished prior to trial.

The Article 13 motion, published Friday by Manning's civilian lawyer David Coombs on his website, claims that Manning, who is accused of leaking state secrets to WikiLeaks,
was held in a 6x8 ft cell for 23 to 24 hours a day. In addition, when
not sleeping, Manning was banned from lying down, or even using a wall
to support him.

The motion also claims that Manning was punished
through "degradation and humiliation", notably by forcing him to stand
outside his cell naked during a morning inspection. This, his Coombs
claims, was "retaliatory punishment" for speaking out over his
treatment.

Manning, 24, is accused of being behind the biggest
leak of state secrets in US history. Hundreds of thousands of diplomatic
cables from US embassies around the world, as well as war logs from
Afghanistan and Iraq, were published by the whistleblowing website
WikiLeaks.

The information was provided by Manning from his
military base near Baghdad, army prosecutors have claimed. They have
indicted Manning on 22 counts, including charges of aiding the enemy –
charges that carry a maximum penalty of death, although prosecutors have
indicated that they will not seek capital punishment.

Coombs is
attempting to get all charges dismissed on the grounds that he was
subjected to illegal pre-trial treatment – in violation of the
constitutional prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment. The claim
relates to the nine months that Manning spent after being transferred to
the Quantico marine base in Virginia following his arrest in May 2010.

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  • Joyce Brand 2012/08/21 14:52:06
    Foul - innocent until proven guilty.
    Joyce Brand
    +1
    Unbelievably foul, inhumane, and totally uncivilized. Over two years of torture without a trial is the most egregious abuse of human rights, but it has become the norm for a country that routinely tortures and murders political prisoners while accusing other countries of abuse of human rights.
  • JMCC Joyce B... 2012/08/21 14:56:01
    JMCC
    Yes, there is an awful lot of "Do as I say, not do as I do.." going around at the moment.
  • Che Guevara - Hero 2012/08/21 11:52:14
    Foul - innocent until proven guilty.
    Che Guevara - Hero
    +1
    Bradley Manning is a Political Prisoner. He is only guilty of exposed the lies and hypocrisy of the War Pigs.
    No War
  • Seonag 2012/08/20 13:19:17
    None of the above
    Seonag
    +1
    Neither --- it's not unusual with the legal wrangling that has been going on between the military court and Manning's attorney that it would take so long to come to trial.
  • JMCC Seonag 2012/08/20 17:46:24
    JMCC
    Surely the conditions of his being remanded and not bailed should not be that of a convicted prisoner though, how is that justifiable?
  • Seonag JMCC 2012/08/20 20:19:23
    Seonag
    +1
    He's still in the Army. I'm not sure all the civilian laws apply.
  • JMCC Seonag 2012/08/20 20:20:50
    JMCC
    In the article it says that it is against military code to punish a soldier prior to a hearing...
  • Seonag JMCC 2012/08/20 20:25:56
    Seonag
    We do not know the details of his alleged punishment. We do know that defense attorneys have a tendency to embellish things to benefit their client. I'll wait. Regardless, what he did was wrong.
  • JMCC Seonag 2012/08/21 11:57:19
    JMCC
    Even without the interrogations, 23 hours in a 6 x 8 cell of solitary confinement sound punishing to me...
  • Seonag JMCC 2012/08/21 12:29:33
    Seonag
    I believe I read somewhere that there were death threats made against him which is why he was in solitary confinement.
  • JMCC Seonag 2012/08/21 12:33:08
    JMCC
    Understandable, but 23 hours a day?
  • Seonag JMCC 2012/08/21 12:44:19
    Seonag
    +1
    I don't know how it's done in the UK, but to the best of my knowledge, most people in prison in the US and in solitary confinement are only out of their cells on an average of 1 hour a day.
  • JMCC Seonag 2012/08/21 12:45:25
    JMCC
    Only in the case of convicted prisoners...
  • D D 2012/08/20 11:21:33
    None of the above
    D D
    +1
    I believe we should have the information he gave out. At the same time I realize it was a very serious crime. Long time ago he would have been hung, drawn and quartered along with a buttload of torture everyday leading up to it. For me, I cannot absolutely say fair or foul.
  • JMCC D D 2012/08/20 11:24:23
    JMCC
    Which is why he should be tried by somebody who is unbiased and objective. It is the length of time that it is taking to get him to trial that is a cause for concern as he is imprisoned in the same way that a convict is...

    Ie Punishment without trial...
  • D D JMCC 2012/08/20 12:22:26
    D D
    +2
    We have NDAA now and you can be held indefinately without trial, attorney, phone call or even being told what you are charged with.
  • JMCC D D 2012/08/20 12:24:03
    JMCC
    That can't be good, can it?
  • D D JMCC 2012/08/20 13:24:38
    D D
    +1
    Nope. We are living under new rules. Not the freedoms we once had. What was the guy thinking when he gave out that classified information???!!! Nuts.
  • JMCC D D 2012/08/20 13:28:51
    JMCC
    There is a code of military ethics as set out in the "Rules of War" - which I believe is part of the treaty of Versailles.

    Ultimately these are the rules that negated the "I was only following orders" defense at Nuremberg trials following WWII.

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