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Boulder Colorado Wants To Ban Plastic Bags, Is This A Great Idea?

Little Angel 2012/05/03 16:31:09
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If it were up to those at a public feedback
meeting Monday on a proposed ban or fee on disposable plastic and paper
bags in Boulder, the city would start by charging fees and then move to a
total ban.

Students from Fairview High School's Net Zero Club
have pushed for a ban on plastic grocery bags, and the city has taken up
the question as part of its Zero Waste Master Plan.

"Sometimes the best way to educate people is to create a change," said Fairview junior Lizzy Dresselhaus.

Monday's
meeting was an opportunity for the public to provide feedback to city
staff members. The city's Environmental Advisory Board will take up the
issue Thursday, using information from city staff members and public
feedback to make a recommendation to the City Council.

City staff
members are recommending that Boulder start with fees on plastic and
paper checkout bags at the city's 45 grocery stores and convenience
stores. Those stores account for 60 to 80 percent of the city's plastic
bags, officials said, with the remaining percentage coming from retail
stores, takeout restaurants and other businesses.

"The No. 1
lesson I learned from other communities was to keep the ordinance very
simple," said Jamie Harkins, Boulder's business sustainability
specialist.

Of the 40-plus people in attendance at Monday's meeting, all but one wanted the city to take action.

But
participants were divided on how that first step should look. About
half want the city to charge a fee to people who use either plastic or
paper bags, while the other half would prefer a ban on plastic bags
combined with a fee for paper bags.

"We shouldn't be giving the
paper bag a free ride in any way," said Eco-Cycle Executive Director
Eric Lombardi. "Paper bags are just as hard on the environment."

Just
three people wanted an outright ban on both to start, though almost all
of those in attendance supported banning both as the ultimate goal
after a transition period.

A concern raised by those who
supported banning plastic bags is that a fee would seem too much like a
tax, while others said a fee might not be much of a disincentive given
Boulder's high income levels. Others wanted to know how revenue from a
fee could be used.

The amount of the fee would have to be set
based on cost recovery, not the amount it would take to make a
difference in people's behavior.

Along with the issue of bans
versus fees, participants talked about which businesses should be
targeted. Most wanted all retailers and restaurants to be included.
People also asked that education and outreach campaigns to reduce the
use of disposable bags be part of the solution.

According to a
Boulder County Waste Composition Study, 781 tons of plastic retail bags
ended up in the county's waste stream in 2010. That represents roughly
120 million plastic bags thrown away countywide.

However, that represents just 0.4 percent of the county's entire waste stream, according to the report.

The
city's project website lists "culture change" as one of the reasons to
reduce plastic bag use. Perhaps more significant, plastic bags
contaminate waste diverted to recycling and composting facilities,
resulting in higher operating costs, city officials said. They also turn
into litter.

The Rocky Mountain Food Industry Association, which
represents the state's grocery stores, opposes bans and fees on
disposable bags.

The Boulder City Council is scheduled to discuss a plastic bag ban or fee at its May 15 meeting.

All of us have heard about the garbage problems and many different solultions

have been tried. Is it time to find a more drastic solution?

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  • melly~thwarting Satan since... 2012/05/03 18:35:58
    Yes, it is time to find better solutions...
    melly~thwarting Satan since 1971
    +12
    In Germany, you pay at least a quarter to buy a plastic bag if you forgot your own. Guess what? No one forgets their own.

    You also have to put in a quarter to get a grocery cart--you get it back when you return it to the proper spot. I'm all for that, too. Consideration for your fellow man (and the Earth) is on the wane here in America.

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  • DeeB Live Fr... 2012/05/04 18:02:46
    DeeB
    There is probably many ways, but they don't make money off of them! It's just another way they thought up to rip us off even further. I'll carry my groceries to my car one by one before I give those bloodsuckers one more dime.!
  • Mrkando 2012/05/03 17:05:02
    No, I believe recycling is enough...
    Mrkando
    +3
    WOW! What an innovative way for a city to slap on another tax and make it seem like a good thing. So who pays the fee(Tax)?

    If they charge the consumer directly for it what incentive then do the retailer's have to make the change? If they charge the retailer, guess who ends up paying? The consumer!

    I agree with the ban on plastic. Recycle will not take them but you can take them back to the store and they will recycle them. At least where I live.

    So they ban both paper and plastic. What is then used to carry your stuff home in. Our grocery store makes available cloth bags, for a fee, but then you have to remember to take them to the store and if you buy more than they carry, guess what, another fee.

    Once they impose a fee(Tax) it is not likely they will ban anything. All depends on how much money they get out of it. Totally absurd plan that will end up costing everyone more one way or another.
  • Someone Else 2012/05/03 17:02:16
    Undecided
    Someone Else
    +3
    Boulder's been trying to do that for the past 10 years
  • Eddie_says_OrlyTaitez_is_nutz 2012/05/03 16:57:59
    Yes, it is time to find better solutions...
    Eddie_says_OrlyTaitez_is_nutz
    +3
    This is neither news nor a new idea. It's the wave of the future and being done in many cities and municipalities all over.
    Plastics are great, but their is no clear cut way to recycle ALL plastics.

    The alternate is paper and I'm not a big fan of that either.

    Reusable bags are a great alternative, but still not "the" answer.

    What is the answer requires a greater conversation and research.
  • Mr. Rock "n" Roll 2012/05/03 16:57:28
    Undecided
    Mr. Rock "n" Roll
    +3
    Same thing in Austin Texas - Give people the option and provide a discount to those that bring their own bags. After a while, it will catch on without more oppressive liberal minded government controls!
  • Mr. Roc... Mr. Roc... 2012/05/03 17:03:44
    Mr. Rock "n" Roll
    +3
    Austin just like Boulder wants the tourist trade, but can you imagine as a vacationing tourist going into a store to purchase a souvenir of your visit and getting fined because you didn’t bring your own bag! Just Crazy!
  • Sheila 2012/05/03 16:55:01
    None of the above
    Sheila
    +3
    Do the bags get made here or overseas? If here than hell no don't ban them that will put folks out of work.


  • Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET 2012/05/03 16:54:01
    Yes, it is time to find better solutions...
    Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET
    +2
    Since in my understanding, that the plastic does not degrade
  • Shirley Xerxes,... 2012/05/03 18:11:18 (edited)
    Shirley
    +2
    There are bio-degradable bags -- but you need to make sure that they are truly degradable (check the vendor's ingredients and make sure that there's no plastic at all). Bio-degradable bag should decompose in three to six months (better than the several hundred years for plastic bags); but they're not perfect.
    You might find these links interesting.

    http://www.biodegradableplast...
    http://sciencefocus.com/qa/ho...
  • Xerxes,... Shirley 2012/05/03 18:23:04
    Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET
    +1
    Thank you, will read
  • Shirley Xerxes,... 2012/05/03 18:38:58
    Shirley
    +1
    You're welcome:)
  • painted desert 2012/05/03 16:45:55
    Yes, it is time to find better solutions...
    painted desert
    +2
    I recycle, but I know so many people that still can't be bothered. It's a start, is to ban the plastic bag. Buy your own reusable bags. They are cheap, and we have too much garbage as it is already.
  • cmdrbnd007 2012/05/03 16:45:50
    None of the above
    cmdrbnd007
    +3
    Here we go again. Twenty years ago there was the effort to ban the paper bag to say the planet so plastic was introduced now here come the ban on plastic. Government over reacting again.
  • Someone... cmdrbnd007 2012/05/03 17:04:20
    Someone Else
    +2
    Maybe they should make glass bags
  • cmdrbnd007 Someone... 2012/05/04 04:09:56
    cmdrbnd007
    +1
    I kind of liked the paper ones best.
  • Someone... cmdrbnd007 2012/05/04 12:23:36
    Someone Else
    +1
    Me too very useful for other things besides groceries. Hell without paper bags ugly women would never get laid and we would have never been introduced to the unknown comic from the "Gong Show".
  • cmdrbnd007 Someone... 2012/05/04 14:04:54
    cmdrbnd007
    +1
    the unknown comic
    Haven't thought about him in years. lol
  • K-ZOOMI-----0 2012/05/03 16:45:31
    Undecided
    K-ZOOMI-----0
    +5
    The poor and middle class will suffer with this fee.
  • Shirley K-ZOOMI... 2012/05/03 18:35:54
    Shirley
    +2
    It doesn't have to be a government fee or tax. There are some stores that offer discounted prices; but don't give you shopping bags unless you pay for them (.03 cents to .05 cents per bag) -- like Aldi's, for example . And then some stores give you back .05 cents for every shopping bag you use of your own (like Target does). I think that people can come up with viable solutions...
  • K-ZOOMI... Shirley 2012/05/03 19:14:37
    K-ZOOMI-----0
    +1
    To be honest. That is why I don't go to Aldi's.
    I walk and ride the bus. Carrying bags to go to the store is a huge nuisance when I have to carry everything home. I want to limit my discomfort.
  • Shirley K-ZOOMI... 2012/05/03 19:32:36
    Shirley
    +1
    Oh Kzoomi, carrying empty bags one inside the other is nothing -- and a whole lot easier to carry things home in than those plastic bags that break! Of course, if you're making a store stop on the way home...then admittedly you need a bag from the store .
    Congrats on the walking and use of public transportation -- that takes real effort and planning...
  • K-ZOOMI... Shirley 2012/05/03 21:09:28
    K-ZOOMI-----0
    +1
    True. I planned getting my D.L. revoked for life. hahaha!
    The plastic bags at Meijers don't break with normal carrying and packing.
  • Shirley K-ZOOMI... 2012/05/03 21:27:22
    Shirley
    +1
    lol...assures that you will get plenty of exercise -- helps balance off the sit-down time at the computer!

    I'm not familiar with Meijers -- have never seen one in the area where I live.
  • K-ZOOMI... Shirley 2012/05/03 22:52:14
    K-ZOOMI-----0
    +1
    It's a Krogers, Big WalMart, Publix, etc. :)
  • Shirley K-ZOOMI... 2012/05/04 00:40:10
    Shirley
    +1
    Ah...ok:)
  • K-ZOOMI... Shirley 2012/05/04 01:22:12
    K-ZOOMI-----0
    Meijers started in Grand Rapids.
    WalMart here in Kalamazoo failed at bringing their biggest store cause here in SW Michigan...Meijers is Michigan.
  • Live Fr... K-ZOOMI... 2012/05/04 13:40:11
    Live Free Or Die
    +1
    You all make good points. I can see the struggling single mom not being able to purchase all her groceries because she's 30 cents short for the plastic bags. Where I live the stores have recycling bins for the plastic bags and while not everyone brings them back, many do.
  • K-ZOOMI... Live Fr... 2012/05/04 21:59:20
    K-ZOOMI-----0
    I have even used these plastic bags for my lunch at work in the past. I haven't bought plastic sandwich bags for over 17 yrs. No need to. I reuse the shopping ones.
  • JanHopkins 2012/05/03 16:42:19
    Undecided
    JanHopkins
    +4
    Hmmm...how will they pick up the dog sh!t?
  • PJ Sweet Cheeks 2012/05/03 16:42:19
    No, I believe recycling is enough...
    PJ  Sweet Cheeks
    +6
    So sick of more laws!!! Why can't these politicians let the decisions up to the people? Why the hell do they feel we need them to decision for us!!!
  • **Bessie** 2012/05/03 16:36:50
    No, I believe recycling is enough...
    **Bessie**
    +8
    Ridiculous!

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