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Boulder Colorado Wants To Ban Plastic Bags, Is This A Great Idea?

Little Angel 2012/05/03 16:31:09
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If it were up to those at a public feedback
meeting Monday on a proposed ban or fee on disposable plastic and paper
bags in Boulder, the city would start by charging fees and then move to a
total ban.

Students from Fairview High School's Net Zero Club
have pushed for a ban on plastic grocery bags, and the city has taken up
the question as part of its Zero Waste Master Plan.

"Sometimes the best way to educate people is to create a change," said Fairview junior Lizzy Dresselhaus.

Monday's
meeting was an opportunity for the public to provide feedback to city
staff members. The city's Environmental Advisory Board will take up the
issue Thursday, using information from city staff members and public
feedback to make a recommendation to the City Council.

City staff
members are recommending that Boulder start with fees on plastic and
paper checkout bags at the city's 45 grocery stores and convenience
stores. Those stores account for 60 to 80 percent of the city's plastic
bags, officials said, with the remaining percentage coming from retail
stores, takeout restaurants and other businesses.

"The No. 1
lesson I learned from other communities was to keep the ordinance very
simple," said Jamie Harkins, Boulder's business sustainability
specialist.

Of the 40-plus people in attendance at Monday's meeting, all but one wanted the city to take action.

But
participants were divided on how that first step should look. About
half want the city to charge a fee to people who use either plastic or
paper bags, while the other half would prefer a ban on plastic bags
combined with a fee for paper bags.

"We shouldn't be giving the
paper bag a free ride in any way," said Eco-Cycle Executive Director
Eric Lombardi. "Paper bags are just as hard on the environment."

Just
three people wanted an outright ban on both to start, though almost all
of those in attendance supported banning both as the ultimate goal
after a transition period.

A concern raised by those who
supported banning plastic bags is that a fee would seem too much like a
tax, while others said a fee might not be much of a disincentive given
Boulder's high income levels. Others wanted to know how revenue from a
fee could be used.

The amount of the fee would have to be set
based on cost recovery, not the amount it would take to make a
difference in people's behavior.

Along with the issue of bans
versus fees, participants talked about which businesses should be
targeted. Most wanted all retailers and restaurants to be included.
People also asked that education and outreach campaigns to reduce the
use of disposable bags be part of the solution.

According to a
Boulder County Waste Composition Study, 781 tons of plastic retail bags
ended up in the county's waste stream in 2010. That represents roughly
120 million plastic bags thrown away countywide.

However, that represents just 0.4 percent of the county's entire waste stream, according to the report.

The
city's project website lists "culture change" as one of the reasons to
reduce plastic bag use. Perhaps more significant, plastic bags
contaminate waste diverted to recycling and composting facilities,
resulting in higher operating costs, city officials said. They also turn
into litter.

The Rocky Mountain Food Industry Association, which
represents the state's grocery stores, opposes bans and fees on
disposable bags.

The Boulder City Council is scheduled to discuss a plastic bag ban or fee at its May 15 meeting.

All of us have heard about the garbage problems and many different solultions

have been tried. Is it time to find a more drastic solution?

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  • melly~thwarting Satan since... 2012/05/03 18:35:58
    Yes, it is time to find better solutions...
    melly~thwarting Satan since 1971
    +12
    In Germany, you pay at least a quarter to buy a plastic bag if you forgot your own. Guess what? No one forgets their own.

    You also have to put in a quarter to get a grocery cart--you get it back when you return it to the proper spot. I'm all for that, too. Consideration for your fellow man (and the Earth) is on the wane here in America.

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  • addie Boblawbla 2012/05/04 07:43:10
    addie
    +1
    You know there are viable alternatives, right? Very viable alternatives.
  • Boblawbla addie 2012/05/04 14:17:14
    Boblawbla
    +2
    Yes, I'm aware. I call my nephew and have him cart the stuff in three or four items at a time?
  • Shirley Boblawbla 2012/05/04 17:27:23
    Shirley
    +3
    A gift for you -- this will make your shopping and toting easy. Now you have no excuses:
    canvas tote with veggies
    canvas tote with flowers
    empty canvas tote

    Here's an insulated bag for you to carry items that you need to keep cold (or hot)
    insulated eco friendly bag

    You can find them fairly cheap just about everywhere...
    http://www.conventiontotes.co...
  • addie Boblawbla 2012/05/04 21:16:37
    addie
    I grocery shop with my big back pack and have a tote for extras, if needed.
    I'm not even sure why because I could not care less about the environment. It is just the waste, i guess.
  • Boblawbla addie 2012/05/05 00:03:38
    Boblawbla
    +1
    Yeah, I know whatcha mean.... my waist is getting quite ample too.... :0)
  • addie Boblawbla 2012/05/05 00:18:16
    addie
    +1
    You are very silly. lol
  • rosesvengeance BN-0 2012/05/04 01:20:34
    Yes, it is time to find better solutions...
    rosesvengeance BN-0
    +1
    I'm sick of places that only have plastic bags as well. It's such a waste, we throw too much junk out in the US. Remember plastic stays in the landfills for years and years. I even use tampons with cardboard applicators for the vary same reason. What do you think happens to those countless plastic applicators? They fill up the landfill that's what.

    Oh and while on the topic all those disposable things like swiffer are not helping the problem either.
  • mike j 2012/05/04 00:18:25
    None of the above
    mike j
    +2
    Yeah go ahead ban them , let everybody carry their groceries in their arms out to the car during the ice storm and watch all the load in their arms scatter like trying to hold onto 12 excited young cats. and the parking lot should be as fun to negociate the broken glass and dented cans like a minefield. You know the little old man or old lady that drops that slippery can or bottle and see it break and scatter before their feet , feel the heartbreak of losing that precious bit of food they could hardly afford and have no money to replace it with. Yes , and the young mother too as she juggles groceries and child , all sure will want to vote for the re-election to office of those that did this to them
  • ETpro 2012/05/04 00:11:38
    Yes, it is time to find better solutions...
    ETpro
    +2
    Paper is sustainable and supports jobs here. You plant trees, you harvest trees. And the waste is biodegradable and even makes good mulch to grow new trees.
  • K-ZOOMI... ETpro 2012/05/04 00:20:22
    K-ZOOMI-----0
    Our ancestors knew it.
  • Beccy 2012/05/04 00:04:09
    Undecided
    Beccy
    +4
    First I hate those plastic bags that they put 1-2 things in and the damn things break any how. That being said I hate bans and forcing people to do things because that takes away freedom. In my city there are two stores that have you buy heavy duty plastic bags that can be used for other things. I like paper bags because I used them for other things. Maybe have stores have both and encourage stores to ask what people want. Maybe the city could encourage people to use reuseable bags buy selling them cheap. I think there are much better ways to use oil then to make those horrible plastic grocery bags.
  • Boblawbla Beccy 2012/05/04 01:45:00
    Boblawbla
    +1
    Here here! I'm with you! Don't I know you? LOL
  • Beccy Boblawbla 2012/05/06 00:06:30
    Beccy
    +1
    Yeap, how are you. Haven't seen you in a while
  • Boblawbla Beccy 2012/05/06 00:42:39
    Boblawbla
    +1
    I'm still around, but mostly to do a few Ron Paul polls and give our two lady friends grief. LOL How you?
  • Beccy Boblawbla 2012/05/06 00:43:52
    Beccy
    +1
    I'm okay. How is the employment
  • Boblawbla Beccy 2012/05/06 00:52:33
    Boblawbla
    +1
    Non-existent! I have begun to collect disability. Had a heart attack in January, moved to Oregon and my teeth started falling out. When my dick fell off I knew I could never support myself by being a male prostitute so I retired.... LOL
  • Beccy Boblawbla 2012/05/06 00:53:57
    Beccy
    So what are you doing in Oregon. Sorry about your penis
  • john Kills 2012/05/03 23:46:51
    Yes, it is time to find better solutions...
    john Kills
    +1
    It would help the environment
  • La 2012/05/03 23:40:59
    Yes, it is time to find better solutions...
    La
    +1
    We did it here ages ago and it's not a problem. Everyone just uses canvas bags at the shops. You can still get plastic bags for dog-poop. Much better to ban plastic than charge for it.
  • KoolGuyL 2012/05/03 23:26:09
    No, I believe recycling is enough...
    KoolGuyL
    We reuse our plastic bags for other purposes, then when we have to many recycle them. Too many trees are already being cut down anyway.
  • NarcolepticGoat 2012/05/03 22:27:51
    None of the above
    NarcolepticGoat
    +5
    we have a 5cents a bag tax. Amazing how quickly people learn to bring their own! (or carry an armful of stuff out the door)

    Plus at the grocery store I still get a 5 cent discount for every reusable bag so thats 10 cents saved :)
  • wilsonmja 2012/05/03 22:15:09
    Yes, it is time to find better solutions...
    wilsonmja
    +3
    They are such a huge waste. You use them one time for less than a day and then they sit in landfills for a really really long time if they don't end up in the giant pile of garbage in the middle of the ocean.
  • relic 2012/05/03 22:08:35
    No, I do not care about the environment...
    relic
    Paper takes a lot more energy to produce than plastic, and reusalbe bags are germ-ridden. Let's keep plastic bags and tie them over the heads of the environmentalists.
  • Boblawbla relic 2012/05/04 01:50:15
    Boblawbla
    +2
    All living things need love.... including germs. I mean, where would germs have to go to find a nice warm place to live? Have some compassion. Now environmentalist are a different matter entirely. I like that idea of your's. Suffocate all those hateful tree-huggers in Walmart plastic, but first torture them with a paper bag full of germs.....
  • Boblawbla relic 2012/05/04 01:51:23
    Boblawbla
    +2
    By the way, did you know the term "relic" means an old widow lady? Just sayin'.....
  • relic Boblawbla 2012/05/04 04:17:45
    relic
    +1
    Or, it could represent someone's initials.
  • addie Boblawbla 2012/05/04 07:47:12 (edited)
    addie
    +1
    I'm a relic!!! Yeah! I've also been called an anachranism, I did not really know the prson was being insulting, I loved ibeing called an anachranism.
  • Boblawbla addie 2012/05/04 14:18:48
    Boblawbla
    +1
    YOU ANARCHI... ANACRO.... ANACHRAM.... YOU THING YOU!! LOL
  • sjalan 2012/05/03 22:01:02
    Yes, it is time to find better solutions...
    sjalan
    +5
    Why enrich the oil companies and the waste management companies by makeing more waste.? It's a good idea.
  • Gretchen Leaderofskyclan 2012/05/03 21:57:22
    Undecided
    Gretchen Leaderofskyclan
    +2
    I doubt it will work. They are too big, and I have a feeling it will go the way of the England Gun Ban, just too hard to get rid of.
  • Boblawbla Gretche... 2012/05/04 01:53:30
    Boblawbla
    +2
    And don't forget the ban on all hemp products. I happen to be an advocate of hemp shirts and underwear.
  • AskZilla 2012/05/03 21:23:39 (edited)
    Yes, it is time to find better solutions...
    AskZilla
    +3
    Well , gee. Consumers never asked for plastic bags anyway. It was corporate CEO sleazebags that don't care anything about the environment, that insisted people start using them, simply because the initial cost is less than paper bags.

    I like paper bags better and have always like them better.
  • K-ZOOMI... AskZilla 2012/05/03 22:50:16
    K-ZOOMI-----0
    +1
    Actually it was the enviromentals that pushed plastic on us. The same ones now crying about plastic.
  • AskZilla K-ZOOMI... 2012/05/04 20:39:09
    AskZilla
    I find that hard to believe. What's environmentally sound about plastic? It's not biodegradable. It's recyclable , but it takes thousands of years for it to degrade, and it only degrades in certain environments.
  • sandra 2012/05/03 21:17:03
  • munda 2012/05/03 20:58:40
    None of the above
    munda
    +3
    I can't stand plastic bags they multiply when you are not looking and you can find them in remote places along with water bottles. Instead of banning them why not offer a better alternative, instead of using taxes to control a person’s behavior why not offer incentive.
  • Boblawbla munda 2012/05/04 01:55:55
    Boblawbla
    +2
    Or at the very least offer them some planned parenthood classes. Geeez.....
  • Sinpac 2012/05/03 20:58:31
    Yes, it is time to find better solutions...
    Sinpac
    +3
    I see those things laying around everywhere.
  • Cal 2012/05/03 20:18:36
    No, I believe recycling is enough...
    Cal
    +1
    I happen to like my plastic bags. Living on the second story...with no elevator....those bags are the only thing getting my groceries inside....
  • blissful 2012/05/03 19:31:58
    No, I believe recycling is enough...
    blissful
    +2
    They've already done it here where I live. Some of the stores are already doing paperbags only or cloth bags.

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