Birther a term to silence dissent, or a legitimate term labeled to crazy people?

they have a right to there opinion.....

I googled the doctors name on the birth certificate there is still a doctor's office open under that name in Hawaii so why not just have him come forward and say ' I delivered Obama!'
As i said before Obama brings much of this on himself by obfuscating his past.
Bush and Clinton opened their college records why not him too?

It's liberal name calling. That's what they do.

Just another part of the name calling the left is so used to using to make a legitimate argument seem trivial and unworthy, but we know better!

unlike the 9/11 truthers who have had tons of examination of the plausibility of their theories and have been thoroughly debunked by experts far and wide. Popular Mechanics devoted as special issue to examining the theories and objections of the truthers and one by one deflating them. It was done on TV as well, I BELIEVE by the Discovery Channel.



When Obama released his Long Form Birth Certificate (LFBC) what we all heard from the experts were..... Crickets.



Not a peep.



Some people have raised objections based on Kerning, etc., but no one has really weighed in on it officially.



Why is that?

"Birther" is legitimate, which is more than can be said for Obama.

We are Constitutional originalists.

And we are also the backbones of the body politic.

Not much different from calling someone a racist.

how about submilinally indoctrinated individuals that are hypnotized to believe what obama & the media is wanting you to believe ..??

ya see some are not easily infulenced by subliminal messages {there fore are VERY difficult to hypnotize ) and can rationalize the truth from fiction ...call them birthers ...but they can decifer common sence ..from sub messages .......

can you understand this simple mental conditioning process ....?

AKA brainwashed ..."indoctrinated " ........

fact is obama is not a legit president / nor american born citizen .....!

Neither of the choices you give are anything but slanted nonsense. Why insult those who would comment on your question with such contrived fixations? Of course the term "birther" is a legitimate way to describe those who are obsessed with their own ideas and delusions about the President's origins. He IS and that is a FACT, so why not move on to something important? We also are accustomed to hearing about "tree hugger", "gun lovers", "vegans", "pedophiles", "gays", and a hundred other encompassing descriptors. Stop the whining, pull up your socks, and appreciate that you are called "birthers" and not just "loonies".

I guess you mean Saul Alinsky who was a good advocate for the underclass and used novel methods to make power look foolish.

They fell for the april fool's joke. We just make fun of them for being fools.

Lol, Obama received foreign scholarships to attend school in the u.s.... April fool's!

Dumb asses.

I though a birther was a person who doesn't believe B. Hussein Obama was born in the US. It carries no connotation to me. (I don't cafre if I spelled connotation wrong).

It is an utterly ridiculous term. Next time you have to show your birth certificate, tell the person across the counter they are a birther and you object and see how far you get! That is how dumb the term is. NOBODY in America gets a free pass from showing their birth certificate at some point in time - to request the same from the president is not only legal, ethical, and sane - it is a given requirement for the person obtaining the office of President to submit - and when it is shown to be a forgery - well, my, my! And now we are birthers. Totally stupid term from just as stupid people.

Barry is an illegal president who hates America and has to go. Here is something to think about and then vote for Ron Paul. If you vote for anyone who does not stand for your principles, you are part of the problem, sir. The Tea Party is supposed to be independent. Look at the financial backers of Romney and Obama, they are the same. Banks and bombs control our country through money and I for one will not play their game. If Obama or Romney win it will be the same. Do you think there was a difference between Obama and McCain? Do you think there was a difference between Kerry and Bush? Do you think there was a difference between Gore and Bush? Do you honestly believe there was a difference between Clinton and HW Bush? ALL have played the same game on the same team, with different uniforms. LOOK AT WHO THE CABINETS ARE FILLED WITH! DEM OR REPUB IT IS TRI-LATERAL - BILDERBURG - CFR - FOR ALL OF THEM! They all get money from the same special interests, banks, bombs, and a globalist agenda. To the people that believe we should be ruled by the UN and have our sovereignty and Constitution stripped, you are in luck, no matter who wins, you lose!

You will notice there has been nothing but a faked birth certificate put forward.

That's the only thing they are good at is name calling and manipulative tactics because they can't argue on real facts. Doesn't bother me, i've been called every name in the book practically. Not once have any of them proven or shown proof of his eligibility when asked for it.

Birtherism is how the GOP slipped racism through the back door. No other white POTUS had to prove they were a citizen. Just this black POTUS. Thank heavens, there are judges out there who refuse to allow their bigotry. Bithers=0 in all cases.

You my dear are a racist.

I gave the facts. That's not racism. What the birthers are doing is classic racism.

I don't see a single fact in your statement. Only conclusions without any stated evidence. It is clear that you are racist by how you are so fixated on calling birthers racist without any consideration of the validity of their claims.

Demanding to see Obama's birth certificate when never asking to see any other president's BC is a fact.

Birthers have no validity and have proven this in all of their faux suits brought in every court they've tried.

I don't care what presidential candidate is running for office, because of Article 2, all of them should prove they are natural born citizens, especially when it is in question.

How can any reasonable person expect that the president shouldn't have to show his BC when we citizens have to show it for much lesser things.

You explained well the truth of their absurd rantings and actions. But, it is impossible to reason with them as they are unaccustomed to "reason".
They are of no real consequence to anything, just disgruntled sorts who
need something to complain about to justify getting out of bed.

Exactly. Even after all this time of having their suits thrown out of court, they continue thier rants.

Obama is half white and less than half black.

But Obama is still considered "black". This definition emerged from the American South to become the nation's definition, generally accepted by whites and blacks. It is also known as the "one black ancestor rule," some courts have called it the "traceable amount rule," and anthropologists call it the "hypo-descent rule," meaning that racially mixed persons are assigned the status of the subordinate group.

True,
But the one drop rule or one black ancestor rule is still alive and well. A descendant of a person who is placed in a protected class can never be bred out of that class.

My original comment is based on a comment by an all Black person.

No matter where that comment came from, it changes nothing- Obama is considered black. And his children and grandchildren will be, as well.

That's what I said.

Than why try to correct me in the first place?

I didn't.

The President proved his eligibility to serve as President in June, 2008 when he released certified proof that he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii. That proof was verified by the Republican Governor of Hawaii and has been corroborated by contemporaneous newspaper announcements, eyewitness recollections, school records in Indonesia, and even the President's own grandmother. There is nothing wrong with asking a question, but when asking a question that has already been answered, other motivations than seeking information are responsible. At this point, NO ONE legitimately believes that the President is not a natural born citizen. There is NO legitimacy to asking an already answered question. In the case of the birthers, the motivation is simply and unequivocally racism, the belief that because the President's skin color is different than the color of his 42 predecessors he somehow CAN'T be eligible to be President. The Right Wing has tried to cast President Obama as an "outsider" since they first heard his name, with nonsensical accusations that he's a Muslim, a Communist, a Nazi, a Socialist, a Fascist, a Racist, a supporter of a "new world order", and on and on.

Birtherism = Racism. Q.E.D.

You = Racist

Calling a racist a racist is not racism. Birtherism is racism. Calling a birther a racist is not.

Birther is a racist term derived in order to demean those who object to the idea that Obama is a natural born citizen. Rather than arguing the issues you come up with a bigoted term for these people. I say that makes you a racist, especially since you try and define birtherism right along with it as racism when there is no valid point that someone who doesn't believe that Obama is a natural born citizen is a racist.

I didn't come up with the term, and the term is in no way bigoted

But there actually is a grain of truth in what you say:

"those who object to the idea that Obama is a natural born citizen."

It isn't that birthers are looking for "truth", since the truth is already there. They aren't looking for "proof", since the proof has been out there for years. They aren't looking for "vetting" considering that Barack Obama is the most over vetted individual in the history of the human race. They simply object to the IDEA that Obama is a natural born citizen. And they object to that IDEA because they cannot accept the fact that a black man was elected President. And that is racism.

No where have I ever seen a person you call "birther" ever objected to the president as natural born citizen because he is black. But I have seen many different very good arguments to why he is not a natural born citizen according to the Constitution. And this is why I call you a racist, because you are contriving a conclusion with no basis to back it up.

First of all, get a dictionary and look up the word "racist". Random House describes it as "the doctrine that a certain human race is superior to any or all others." Birthers are racist because they believe that the President of the United States is inferior with respect to Presidential eligibility based solely on the color of his skin. Calling birthers racist is not racism. Birthers are inferior not because of any extraneous consideration like skin color or religion or gender or sexual orientation but because of their conduct - namely, continuing to harass and slander the President and to waste the time of numerous State and Federal Courts.

Second of all, there are no "good arguments" that have not already been debunked. The President was born in Hawaii. That has been proved numerous times. Moreover, in four years the birthers have yet to provide even one piece of actual evidence that suggests otherwise. The Supreme Court settled the issue of parental citizenship 114 years ago in the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark.

As I said earlier, there is nothing wrong with asking questions, but when the only questions being asked are those that have been answered, then there is no legitimate reason to ask them any more.

And yet you have failed to show in any way that who you call birthers are saying he is ineligible based on the color of his skin. You provide no logic, no evidence, no proof. All you do is make a claim. This is why you are a racist.