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Biden's "Minority Report"

Dan™: Real Change, Not False Hope 2011/10/22 18:31:34
Biden is just being Biden.
Biden is ignorant about crime.
Biden is fear-mongering.
None of the above
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Vice President Joe Biden has once again created a bit of a stir in the news recently when he argued that Obama's "jobs" bill must be passed or else rape, murder and other violent crimes will continue to increase.

Leaving aside the fact that national violent crime rates are actually down for the past four years in a row, according to FBI data, Biden's overly simplistic equation -- more cops = less crime -- is extremely dubious in it's own right. But his explicit assertion that having more cops on the payroll can have an effect on the incidence of rapes is both patently absurd and evinces childish thinking.
Think about Biden's examples and ask yourself: have you ever heard of any instance when a police officer has ever interrupted a rape in progress? And how often has a police officer actually stopped a robbery or homicide in progress? It just doesn't happen very often, if at all, in the real world.

Unfortunately, the sad reality is that almost 100% of law enforcement consists of following up on crimes to catch criminals after the fact -- in other words after it's already too late for the victims in Vice President Biden's lurid examples. That's the sad, unpleasant reality, and hiring more cops will never change that reality.

We don't live in the science-fiction world of "The Minority Report" where law enforcement uses psychic powers to monitor the thoughts and intentions of the populace in order to interdict crimes before they ever happen.

Biden is either a extremely ignorant for making this childish argument, or he's a shameless political hack and fear-monger for making that argument. Personally, I lean towards the latter.

But what Biden's argument does illustrate, after sober and non-hysterical reflection on the subject of crime and crime prevention, is the reality that there are practical limitations to what law enforcement can actually do to make us safer.
And it also beautifully illustrates the truth of the arguments that the NRA and other 2nd Amendment advocates have been making for decades. And that argument is that when a crime is immanent or actually in progress and you really need the police, the police are always minutes away. Indeed that's why they're called "Law Enforcement Officers" rather than "Crime Prevention Officers." And it will always be thus because we don't live in the alternate reality portrayed in Hollywood movies such as "Minority Report."

The best (and only) actual crime prevention measure ever enacted by any government in human history was the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which enshrined the right of an armed citizenry to protect themselves.

So what do you think? Is Biden just fear-mongering to scare people into passing Obama's so-called jobs bill, or does he genuinely believe the nonsensical claim that violent crime is going to increase unless we hire more cops? Or is this just Biden being Biden once again?

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  • RastaFan 2011/10/22 21:17:54
    Biden is just being Biden.
    RastaFan
    +12
    I particularly enjoyed his dramatic build up in volume and intensity as he delivered the litany of evil consequences.

    Waddaputz!

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  • safari 2011/11/17 01:47:45
    Biden is ignorant about crime.
    safari
    +1
    In this case an all of the above would have fit perfectly.

    case fit perfectly
  • Dan™: R... safari 2011/11/17 10:32:24
    Dan™: Real Change, Not False Hope
    For certain.

    And hi, good to see you, Safari!

    : )
  • Eddie L~PWCM~JLA 2011/10/28 18:24:14
    None of the above
    Eddie L~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    Discussing anything with this guy would be like getting on the short bus and trying a group brain storm.
  • mountainman 2011/10/28 13:29:56
    Biden is just being Biden.
    mountainman
    +1
    But, in my community, the Police are a part of the problem! About a month ago, the police responded to a call and the guy answered the door with a knife in his hand. He wouldn't drop it so the police shot and killed him........a knife.
  • Dan™: R... mountai... 2011/10/28 18:17:12
    Dan™: Real Change, Not False Hope
    Hey, I don't know all the details, but based on what you've said, my observation is that a knife is a deadly weapon and he refused to drop it. Police are trained to respond to the use of deadly force (knife) with deadly force (gun).
  • mountai... Dan™: R... 2011/10/29 20:38:42
    mountainman
    O.K. So you have a TEAM of officers that show up on one call. All of the officers have at their disposal, mace, clubs, tasers, training for hand to hand combat, guns...so they just shoot him. You tell me "deadly force". Not in my book.
  • l8rthen 2011/10/25 00:41:53
    Biden is fear-mongering.
    l8rthen
    +2
    Worse. Socialist fearmongering so they can instill even more fear and socialism. What turds.
  • Charles E 2011/10/24 14:32:30
    None of the above
    Charles E
    +3
    The closest to the real answer, "ALL THE ABOVE".

    Biden is once again talking with total ignorance of the subject (crime is decreasing across the country in all classifications.).

    Biden is fear-mongering to get the bill passed so they can feed more tax dollars to unions to spend campaigning for Obama's reelection.

    Biden is being Biden, mouth running, brain disengaged.
  • bronx 2011/10/24 13:38:44
    None of the above
    bronx
    +3
    Biden is a liar like the POTUS.
  • Charlie 2011/10/24 13:37:26
    Biden is ignorant about crime.
    Charlie
    +5
    But then he's ignorant about a lot of things.
  • Jedmun 2011/10/24 06:18:48
    None of the above
    Jedmun
    +5
    My Distain for this man grows almost everytime I see or hear him ever since he outed Seal Team 6
  • STU~PWCM~JLA~POTL~AFCL 2011/10/24 01:36:34
    Biden is fear-mongering.
    STU~PWCM~JLA~POTL~AFCL
    +4
    The facts here are very simple and easy to analyze. His boss wanted to spend another $450 billion (that we don't have) to temporarily hire more teachers and first responders. Once the money runs out, so will the incremental jobs. Basically, Obama is just using taxpayer money to buy votes from grateful parents, crime and fire victims, and the tempoarily employed. The only way we can have more first responders where we more is for state economies to pick up so tax revenues increase on a permanent basis. Further, it is not clear at all that we have a national teacher shortage. There is no proof that smaller classes lead to better student performance. But there is proof that smaller classes lead to higher taxpayer expense, easier jobs for teachers, more union dues, and bigger school administrations.
  • Mike 2011/10/23 20:16:34
    Biden is ignorant about crime.
    Mike
    +3
    You have to admit -- Biden is most likely the dumbest politician ever to make it to the white house. A lot of folks thought Carter was stupid or just made bad decisions, some others cut and hacked Bush's speeches to make some of his "uh ohs" look like he was a retard, but the simple fact is, you can take any of Biden's speeches and let a 3 year-old laugh at the intelligence of it.
  • Freeranger 2011/10/23 19:29:15
    None of the above
    Freeranger
    Biden is probably right, particularly when you consider that Congress is committing most, if not all of those offenses against us. Hmmmm.
  • Lee The Hybrid Snowflake 2011/10/23 16:06:08
    Biden is ignorant about crime.
    Lee The Hybrid Snowflake
    +3
    Biden is just ignorant but I enjoy the moments when they allow him to speak! =)
  • Dan™: R... Lee The... 2011/10/23 16:29:57
    Dan™: Real Change, Not False Hope
    +4
    Indeed. It's usually amusing to watch Joe wing it; but in this particular instance, I don't find his comments funny at all. Being a demagogue on the subject of rape just to push Obama's ridiculous "jobs bill" isn't very funny to me.
  • Lee The... Dan™: R... 2011/10/23 16:36:00
    Lee The Hybrid Snowflake
    +2
    He's not always funny but he's always ignorant. The part I enjoy is being right, I always thought he was a moran and he confirms it every time he opens his mouth.
  • AnnS (Anti-RP2012] 2011/10/23 14:23:24
    Biden is fear-mongering.
    AnnS (Anti-RP2012]
    +2
    Biden needs to go in a long term rehab.........
  • Dandydon 2011/10/23 13:57:57
  • *Danno* JYD - SWMTPP 2011/10/23 11:50:27
    Biden is fear-mongering.
    *Danno* JYD - SWMTPP
    +3
    Are the rapists scared that the 0bama Jobs Bill, aka. Stimulus III will pass? I don't think so! LOL!

    rapists scared 0bama jobs aka stimulus iii pass lol
  • Soundstorm 2011/10/23 10:46:00
    None of the above
    Soundstorm
    +1
    Another iconic breakthrough by the Obama administration has been the replacement of the office of the Surgeon General by the Vice Presidency for the critical duty of national court jester.
  • Marie/M2M2K™-#1Conservative... 2011/10/23 10:02:44
    Biden is fear-mongering.
    Marie/M2M2K™-#1ConservativeGuru
    +9
    Biden has to be the most stupid US VP yet. (As I've said many times) I'm surprised 0bama actually lets him out without a muzzle.
  • nails Marie/M... 2011/10/24 01:10:19 (edited)
    nails
    +2
    I've always thought that was Obamas way of saying to the World,just look at these stupid,comical White people you've all been afraid of my Worldly brothers and sisters. al frankin snl photos I rest my case.
  • STU~PWC... Marie/M... 2011/10/24 01:38:12
    STU~PWCM~JLA~POTL~AFCL
    +1
    Have to blame this one on me; I put the muzzle on Obama. :)
  • CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY 2011/10/23 08:25:42
    None of the above
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    +4
    Biden is an idiot. Enough said.
  • The Duke 2011/10/23 05:02:49
    Biden is just being Biden.
    The Duke
    +4
    Biden is just being Biden...an idiot and buffoon. Even so, he would be an improvement over Zero-bama. Biden has many of the same socialist, big-government goals of Barack; fortunately, he is too much of an idiot to see them to fruition.
  • Steve Boston 2011/10/23 04:40:48
    Biden is ignorant about crime.
    Steve Boston
    +2
    It's just Joe being Joe. He's a really nice guy but just another clueless Democrat. They can't help themselves. There's a better chance we'll have world wide peace before they actually get it. Scary when you think about it.
  • zapped 2011/10/23 04:21:23
    Biden is just being Biden.
    zapped
    +5
    considering all things biden is suffering with mentall deliriums ..old senile , anneurism , what does anyone expect ..??

    it's just a bad as selling the jobs bill to 4 th graders ...!!!!

    what with that ?
  • Barbara Hasler 2011/10/23 04:18:35
    None of the above
    Barbara Hasler
    +5
    Biden apparently suffers from brain fade and wants to try to impress us with his brilliance. I wish he would quit. He needs to realize that he is not the sharpest tool in the shed and keep his distorted thoughts to himself I laugh at him but then reality sets in and this guy is just a heart beat away from the presidency!
  • AL 2011/10/23 03:52:33
    Biden is fear-mongering.
    AL
    +4
    Why hasn't this poor man been committed yet?
  • zapped AL 2011/10/23 04:24:48
    zapped
    +3
    we need to have compassion for our elderly and mentally disabelled ! even if he is our VP "oh what a mistake that was !"
  • AL zapped 2011/10/23 05:09:55
    AL
    +3
    What an under-statment!
  • Phil_will1 2011/10/23 03:47:39
    Biden is fear-mongering.
    Phil_will1
    +2
    I heard a great idea the other day - can't remember where. Why don't we figure out a way to get the $530 million back we lost on Solyndra - that would pay for a lot of cops on the street!!!!
  • zapped Phil_will1 2011/10/23 04:29:46
    zapped
    +3
    I second that one .....!
  • seadog6608PWCM 2011/10/23 02:50:53
  • Dan™: R... seadog6... 2011/10/23 02:55:16
    Dan™: Real Change, Not False Hope
    +6
    An accomplishment? Isn't it rather a blot and a shame?
  • seadog6... Dan™: R... 2011/10/23 03:03:12
  • Dan™: R... seadog6... 2011/10/23 03:25:26
    Dan™: Real Change, Not False Hope
    +4
    Okay, gotcha.
  • zapped Dan™: R... 2011/10/23 04:31:50
    zapped
    +4
    could we declare him incompetient , along with obunghole ?

    what kind of a leader would try selling 4th graders a jobs bill ,,,that was over the top !
  • Dan™: R... zapped 2011/10/23 13:28:16
    Dan™: Real Change, Not False Hope
    +1
    I think it was all about rhetoric. I'm sure you know that Democrats always invoke "the children" when they want to get their way. The whole idea is to make Republicans look mean and heartless.

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