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ABCNEWS.GO.COM reports:
Vice President Biden says a mental health check on gun sales may have averted the 2007 mass shooting on Virginia Tech‘s campus. Biden’s comments came after a roundtable discussion in Richmond today that included experts involved with the gun control commission convened after the university tragedy. The vice president reported the panel had reached “pretty broad consensus” over what criteria they proposed should deny a sale, including “mental capacity.” “One of the problems that was pointed out here was that there was an adjudication of the young man that committed the crime at Virginia Tech, and yet he was able…

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  • gareth.ellzey 2013/01/26 01:58:57
    Joe Biden
    gareth.ellzey
    +6
    Problem is, MOST of the mental health checks result in psychotropic meds, which CAUSE the violence.
    Subject: It's a little easier to understand when you can see it in a list.
    Rx drugs..... not guns.....
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    2008-02-15
    Illinois
    ** 6 Dead: 15 Wounded: Perpetrator Was in Withdrawal from Med & Acting Erratically
    School Shooting
    Prozac Antidepressant
    2005-03-24
    Minnesota
    **10 Dead: 7 Wounded: Dosage Increased One Week before Rampage
    School Shooting
    Paxil [Seroxat] Antidepressant
    2001-03-10
    Pennsylvania
    **14 Year Old GIRL Shoots & Wounds Classmate at Catholic School
    School Shooting
    Zoloft Antidepressant & ADHD Med
    2011-07-11
    Alabama
    **14 Year Old Kills Fellow Middle School Student
    School Shooting
    Zoloft Antidepressant
    1995-10-12
    South Carolina
    **15 Year Old Shoots Two Teachers, Killing One: Then Kills Himself
    School Shooting
    Med For Depression
    2009-03-13
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    Problem is, MOST of the mental health checks result in psychotropic meds, which CAUSE the violence.
    Subject: It's a little easier to understand when you can see it in a list.
    Rx drugs..... not guns.....
    (Oh, I'm sorry.... Okay... It was the gun's fault....)

    Click on the blue 'What' to access a story. Click on a red column heading to sort the index by that column.
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    Drug
    Date
    Where
    Additional
    School Shooting
    Prozac WITHDRAWAL
    2008-02-15
    Illinois
    ** 6 Dead: 15 Wounded: Perpetrator Was in Withdrawal from Med & Acting Erratically
    School Shooting
    Prozac Antidepressant
    2005-03-24
    Minnesota
    **10 Dead: 7 Wounded: Dosage Increased One Week before Rampage
    School Shooting
    Paxil [Seroxat] Antidepressant
    2001-03-10
    Pennsylvania
    **14 Year Old GIRL Shoots & Wounds Classmate at Catholic School
    School Shooting
    Zoloft Antidepressant & ADHD Med
    2011-07-11
    Alabama
    **14 Year Old Kills Fellow Middle School Student
    School Shooting
    Zoloft Antidepressant
    1995-10-12
    South Carolina
    **15 Year Old Shoots Two Teachers, Killing One: Then Kills Himself
    School Shooting
    Med For Depression
    2009-03-13
    Germany
    **16 Dead Including Shooter: Antidepressant Use: Shooter in Treatment For Depression
    School Hostage Situation
    Med For Depression
    2010-12-15
    France
    **17 Year Old with Sword Holds 20 Children & Teacher Hostage
    School Shooting Plot
    Med For Depression WITHDRAWAL
    2008-08-28
    Texas
    **18 Year Old Plots a Columbine School Attack
    School Shooting
    Anafranil Antidepressant
    1988-05-20
    Illinois
    **29 Year Old WOMAN Kills One Child: Wounds Five: Kills Self
    School Shooting
    Luvox/Zoloft Antidepressants
    1999-04-20
    Colorado
    **COLUMBINE: 15 Dead: 24 Wounded
    School Stabbings
    Antidepressants
    2001-06-09
    Japan
    **Eight Dead: 15 Wounded: Assailant Had Taken 10 Times his Normal Dose of Depression Med
    School Shooting
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    1998-05-21
    Oregon
    **Four Dead: Twenty Injured
    School Stabbing
    Med For Depression
    2011-10-25
    Washington
    **Girl, 15, Stabs Two Girls in School Restroom: 1 Is In Critical Condition
    School Shooting
    Antidepressant
    2006-09-30
    Colorado
    **Man Assaults Girls: Kills One & Self
    School Machete Attack
    Med for Depression
    2001-09-26
    Pennsylvania
    **Man Attacks 11 Children & 3 Teachers at Elementary School
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    Luvox
    1993-07-23
    Florida
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    School Hostage Situation
    Cymbalta Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL
    2009-11-09
    New York
    **Man With Gun Inside School Holds Principal Hostage
    School Shooting
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    1992-09-20
    Texas
    **Man, Angry Over Daughter's Report Card, Shoots 14 Rounds inside Elementary School
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    2010-02-19
    Finland
    **On Sept. 23, 2008 a Finnish Student Shot & Killed 9 Students Before Killing Himself
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    2004-10-19
    New Jersey
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    2007-04-18
    Virginia
    **Possible SSRI Use: 33 Dead at Virginia Tech
    School Shooting
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    2002-01-17
    Virginia
    **Possible SSRI Withdrawal Mania: 3 Dead at Law School
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    Zoloft*
    2010-08-22
    Australia
    **School Counselor Exhibits Bizarre Behavior: Became Manic On Zoloft
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    Antidepressant
    2009-11-04
    California
    **School Custodian Assaults Student & Principal: Had Manic Reaction From Depression Med
    School Shooting
    Prozac Antidepressant
    1992-01-30
    Michigan
    **School Teacher Shoots & Kills His Superintendent at School
    School Shooting Threats
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    2010-01-25
    Virginia
    **Senior in High School Theatens to Kill 4 Classmates: Facebook Involved: Bail Denied
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    1998-05-04
    New York
    **Sheriff's Deputy Shoots his Wife in an Elementary School
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    Meds For Depression & ADHD
    2010-04-28
    Massachusetts
    **Sixteen Year Old Kills 15 Year Old in High School Bathroom in Sept. 2009
    School Stabbing
    Wellbutrin
    2006-12-04
    Indiana
    **Stabbing by 17 Year Old At High School: Charged with Attempted Murder
    School Threat
    Antidepressants
    2007-04-23
    Mississippi
    **Student Arrested for Making School Threat Over Internet
    School Suspension
    Lexapro Antidepressant
    2007-07-28
    Arkansas
    **Student Has 11 Incidents with Police During his 16 Months on Lexapro
    School Shooting
    Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL
    2007-11-07
    Finland
    **Student Kills 8: Wounds 10: Kills Self: High School in Finland
    School Shooting
    Paxil [Seroxat] Antidepressant
    2004-02-09
    New York
    **Student Shoots Teacher in Leg at School
    School Threat
    Prozac Antidepressant
    2008-01-25
    Washington
    **Student Takes Loaded Shotgun & 3 Rifles to School Parking Lot: Plans Suicide
    School Shooting Plot
    Med For Depression
    1998-12-01
    Wisconsin
    **Teen Accused of Plotting to Gun Down Students at School
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    Zoloft Antidepressant
    2006-02-15
    Tennessee
    **Teen Attacks Teacher at School
    School Shooting Threat
    Antidepressant
    1999-04-16
    Idaho
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    Paxil & Effexor Antidepressants
    2001-04-15
    Washington
    **Teen Holds Classmates Hostage with a Gun
    School Hostage Situation
    Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL
    2006-11-28
    North Carolina
    **Teen Holds Teacher & Student Hostage with Gun
    School Knife Attack
    Med for Depression
    2006-12-06
    Indiana
    **Teen Knife Attacks Fellow Student
    School Massacre Plot
    Prozac Withdrawal
    2011-02-23
    Virginia
    **Teen Sentenced to 12 Years in Prison For Columbine Style Plot
    School Shooting
    Celexa & Effexor Antidepressants
    2001-04-19
    California
    **Teen Shoots at Classmates in School
    School Shooting
    Celexa Antidepressant
    2006-08-30
    North Carolina
    **Teen Shoots at Two Students: Kills his Father: Celexa Found Among his Personal Effects
    School Shooting
    Meds For Depression & ADHD
    2011-03-18
    South Carolina
    **Teen Shoots School Official: Pipe Bombs Found in Backpack
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    Antidepressant
    2003-05-31
    Michigan
    **Teen Threatens School Shooting: Charge is Terrorism
    School Stand-Off
    Zoloft Antidepressant
    1998-04-13
    Idaho
    **Teen [14 Years Old] in School Holds Police At Bay: Fires Shots
    School Shooting
    Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL
    2007-10-12
    Ohio
    **Teen [14 Years Old] School Shooter Possibly on Antidepressants or In Withdrawal
    School Threat
    Antidepressants
    2008-03-20
    Indiana
    **Teen [16 Years Old] Brings Gun to School: There Is a Lockdown
    School Suicide/Lockdown
    Med For Depression
    2008-02-20
    Idaho
    **Teen [16 Years Old] Kills Self at High School: Lockdown by Police
    School Threats
    Prozac Antidepressant
    1999-10-19
    Florida
    **Teen [16 Years Old] Threatens Classmates With Knife & Fake Explosives
    School Stabbing
    Med For Depression
    2008-02-29
    Texas
    **Teen [17 Year Old GIRL] Stabs Friend & Principal at High School
    School Hostage Situation
    Prozac/ Paxil Antidepressants
    2001-01-18
    California
    **Teen [17 Years Old] Takes Girl Hostage at School: He is Killed by Police
    School Knife Attack
    Treatment For Depression & Strattera
    2009-03-10
    Belgium
    **Three Dead in School Day Care: Two Children & a Caregiver: Happened Jan 23, 2009
    School Shooting Plot
    Antidepressants
    2009-09-22
    England
    **Two English School Boys Plot to Blow Up High School
    School Arson Incidents
    Paxil
    2002-04-12
    Michigan
    **Unusual Personality Change on Paxil Caused 15 Year Old to Set Fires inside High School
    School Bomb Threat
    Med For Depression
    2009-06-29
    Australia
    **Vexed Father Makes Bomb Threat Against Elementary School
    School Violence
    Antidepressant
    2005-11-19
    Arizona
    **Violent 8 Year Old GIRL Handcuffed by Police at School
    School Violence
    Celexa Antidepressant
    2002-01-23
    Florida
    **Violent 8 Year-Old Boy Arrested At School
    School Threat/Lockdown
    Lexapro*
    2008-04-18
    California
    **Violent High School Student Shot to Death on Campus by Police
    School / Child Endangerment
    Antidepressants
    2008-02-27
    Canada
    **Wacky School Bus Driver Goes Berserk: Also Involved Painkillers
    School Violence
    Paxil
    2004-10-23
    Washington DC
    **Young Boy, 10 Year Old, Has Violent Incidents at School
    School Threat
    Wellbutrin Antidepressant
    2007-04-24
    Tennessee
    **Young Boy, 12, Threatens to Shoot Others at School
    School Hostage Situation
    Med for Depression
    2006-03-09
    France
    **Young Ex-Teacher Holds 21 Students Hostage
    School Shooting/Suicide
    Celexa
    2002-10-07
    Texas
    **Young Girl [13 Years Old] Kills Self at School With a Gun
    School Hostage Situation
    Paxil
    2001-10-12
    North Carolina
    **Young Man Holds Three People Hostage in Duke University President's Office
    School Murder Attempt
    Med For Depression
    1995-03-04
    California
    **Young Woman Deliberately Hits 3 Kids with Her Car at Elementary School: Laughed During Attack
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  • skowcog 2013/01/28 22:29:00
    Joe Biden
    skowcog
    Mainly his mental health is off because his real purpose in life is clowning.
  • Cora 2013/01/27 23:45:29
    Joe Biden
    Cora
    The man needs to check his Family past, on how they survived the Wars.
  • Captain-Morgan 2013/01/27 19:45:26 (edited)
    Joe Biden
    Captain-Morgan
    OBAMA, AS A FORMER COCAIN USER WOULD NEVER PASS A FEDERAL GUN BUYING BACKGROUND CHECK.. MANY IN CONGRESS AND OUR JUDGES WOULD FAIL IT ALSO..

    OBAMA & BIDEN, WHO DID THEIR MENTAL HEALTH BACKGROUND CHECKS?

    http://www.westernjournalism....
  • dheydrick 2013/01/26 21:24:10
    Joe Biden
    dheydrick
    +1
    This is all just feel good politics. This is just about control, not gun control. There's not a sane person on this planet that believes that preventing responsible gun owners from owning a certain type of gun or limiting the number of bullets that can be placed in a certain type of gun is going to prevent a criminal or mentally unstable person from going on a shooting spree. They're criminals, they do things illegally. They're mentally unstable, they do crazy illogical things.

    I think Biden (in his own goofy way) said it best . . .

  • Bill 2013/01/26 17:08:22
  • lm1b2 2013/01/26 16:36:10
    Joe Biden
    lm1b2
    I think if they give Biden a Mental Health check,they will take away his Shotgun!
  • Bill lm1b2 2013/01/26 17:02:35
    Bill
    +1
    They would probably take away his pencil and any other sharp object within his reach.
  • Wahvlvke 2013/01/26 15:30:20
    Joe Biden
    Wahvlvke
    don't think brainless joe is crazy ... he's just incredibly stupid.
  • Jeff Smith 2013/01/26 14:54:39
    Joe Biden
    Jeff Smith
    +1
    Whacko
  • Lady Whitewolf 2013/01/26 14:32:02
    Gun Owners
    Lady Whitewolf
    Tighter background and mental health checks.
  • Jeff Smith Lady Wh... 2013/01/26 14:54:26
    Jeff Smith
    Who sets the standard for mental health checks?
  • Bucky Jeff Smith 2013/01/26 17:17:53
    Bucky
    +2
    "Sane" people with "AUTHORITAH"!

    sane people authoritah
    sane people authoritah
  • Jane Lady Wh... 2013/01/27 17:03:23
    Jane
    Since when do we as a nation address mental health? We only seem to care about mental retardation, not illness. Most dangerous mental illness is somewhat obvious, but you can do nothing about it. Of course, in Texas you can find ways to have them incarcerated. Prison is our mental health hospital, therefore sometimes really bad things have to happen in order for a mentally ill person to get any kind of attention. Also, Ronald Reagan put and end to mental heath in our country. We actually had a good start in the 70's before Reagan.
  • Straud1976 2013/01/26 13:20:46
    Gun Owners
    Straud1976
    Anyone that thinks they need a gun as an extension of their man/womanhood has issues.. Side note anyone that think that it is a bad idea to have a mental assessment to get a gun deserves what they get.
  • Jeff Smith Straud1976 2013/01/26 14:52:55
    Jeff Smith
    What about people who shoot guns for competition purposes? Or to have fun. Guns aren't really necessary but neither is the NHRA for drag racing and neither is NASCAR for track racing but people do it anyway because they enjoy doing it. People don't need to sky dive but they do it because they enjoy it we don't need Disney land and we don't need hollywood but we have them because people enjoy them we don't need anything except food and water to survive as a matter of fact we don't need cell phones we don't need the internet we don't need cars we don't need music we don't need computers we don't need candy we don't need soft drinks we don't need cigarettes we don't need politicians we don't need tree's we don't need boats we don't need knives we don't need spoons we don't need forks we don't need plates we can eat from the ground we don't need clothes we don't need lipstick we don't need deodorant we don't need anything but food and water. we have all these things because we want them and we can have them because we want them.
  • Straud1976 Jeff Smith 2013/01/26 19:07:21
    Straud1976
    +1
    lol Thar was simplistic and silly. Comparing apples to Oranges.
  • andy15554 2013/01/26 13:09:51
    Joe Biden
    andy15554
    Joe Biden is a kook, he proves it every time he opens his mouth.
  • phil.olding.3 2013/01/26 12:47:22
    Joe Biden
    phil.olding.3
    The mental health check was already performed on the shooter at Virginia Tech. Cho was already a prohibited person that was supposed to be on the no-guns list.

    The failure of the background check system is not a problem with gun owners - it is a problem with the background check system.
  • edjusted 2013/01/26 12:21:25 (edited)
  • gregory.brown.5030 2013/01/26 11:54:59
    Joe Biden
    gregory.brown.5030
    A mental check might have stopped Biden from becoming VP, and a backgroud check would have stopped Obmam from becoming POTUS.
  • KCurtis 2013/01/26 11:31:31
    Joe Biden
    KCurtis
    joe biden nuts
    Crazy Uncle Joe
  • AL 2013/01/26 10:20:59
    Joe Biden
    AL
    LMAO! I can't think of anyone that needs more Mental help,then crazy old Uncle joe himself!
  • bman~AVA~BTTB 2013/01/26 08:06:04
    Joe Biden
    bman~AVA~BTTB
    Easy answer here. Ole Joe is the one that is in desperate need of a mental health check!
  • gary 2013/01/26 07:23:28
  • Troy 2013/01/26 06:26:10
    Gun Owners
    Troy
    +2
    Alas no option for " a government who allows its citizens to buy machine guns, assault rifles and other related Weapons of WAR from their local walmart" What next "I will be home late tonight honey, just popping out to pick up a new missile guidance system for the tank?
  • gregory... Troy 2013/01/26 11:56:29
    gregory.brown.5030
    Since none of these weapons you mention can be bought at Walmart, I find your post to be untrue.
  • Troy gregory... 2013/01/26 20:10:53
    Troy
    OK perhaps walmart was an exageration for effect, lets just say over the counter!
  • gregory... Troy 2013/01/27 11:30:56
    gregory.brown.5030
    Nope, can't buy any of those over the counter. Most states even require the presence of the state version of and ATF agent to be present at any such transfer. Any such weapons have to be inspected at the time of transfer.
  • brutusi... Troy 2013/01/26 14:17:29
    brutusin~ Proud Apetheist
    But what if you really want a missle guidance system for your tank?
  • Troy brutusi... 2013/01/26 20:12:42
    Troy
    +1
    I have no doubt you'd be able to buy one - with ease and no questions asked - good ole USA!
  • brutusi... Troy 2013/01/26 20:48:59
    brutusin~ Proud Apetheist
    +1
    Still trying to find my Domsday Device. lol
  • Troy brutusi... 2013/01/27 02:26:58 (edited)
    Troy
    I bet this guy could get you one!

  • Tic-Toc 2013/01/26 06:11:44
    Joe Biden
    Tic-Toc
    He doesn't even remember voting for Both Wars....
  • Brandon 2013/01/26 05:49:19
    Joe Biden
    Brandon
    +1
    Though I think you do need to be mentally checked before getting a gun license, I think Biden needed to be checked before becoming Vice President even more.
  • Cat 2013/01/26 05:07:56
    Joe Biden
    Cat
    +1
    Joe reminds me of the character "Uncle Buck" played by John Candy. Uncle Buck
  • Scotty 2013/01/26 04:47:24
    Gun Owners
    Scotty
    +2
    The idea that you should be checked to be mentally able is just weird. Nothing should prevent crazies from access to gun which can be used to slaughter innocent people. It is their 2nd amendment right after all!
  • Aqua Surf BTO-t-BCRA-F 2013/01/26 04:39:51
    Joe Biden
    Aqua Surf BTO-t-BCRA-F
    +1
    Obama's court jester, I don't know but something is wrong with him. And he's only a heart beat away from the presidency.
  • jumpboots 187th PIR 2013/01/26 04:30:04
    Joe Biden
    jumpboots 187th PIR
  • FlyGalsMom 2013/01/26 04:11:29
    Joe Biden
    FlyGalsMom
    Yeah, Biden needs one ok, but I would make sure from now on that ppl applying for a permit get some sort of psych eval~ even if it is a written test~
  • gregory... FlyGalsMom 2013/01/26 11:59:05
    gregory.brown.5030
    The problem that most Americans have with that is who decides the tolerances of the test. Biden?

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