Before 1960 The Republican party had 90% of the black vote. What happened? what did the Republican Party do to lose it?
BlackSouth
2012/07/13 18:30:04
All I hear nowadays is how over 90% blacks vote for Obama. It must be because he is black. or it must be how they want "free stuff", handouts or welfare. First of all even Bill O'Reilly knows and have stated that " Everyone knows that there are more whites on welfare than blacks." ( It must be true because it came from Fox News. The only News Network that is fair and balanced.) but I digress. It is also a fact that from before the Emancipation proclamation that 90% of blacks voted Republican and the Republican party continued to have their support up until the 1960's. What I want to know is what did the Republican party do to loses 90% of the black vote? I would love to have a conservative view on this, but all views are welcome.
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MidnightCowboy 2012/07/13 18:48:47+6I will be happy to explain. The shift of the Black vote to the Democratic Party began in 1964 when Barry Goldwater, then running for President, voted against the Civil Rights Act.






















It's really easy to see really.
If there are only 12% blacks in this country (assume no other races) then there are 88% whites.. so naturally there are many more people that are white on welfare but as a percentage of the black population .. there are nearly twice as many blacks on welfare as whites.. You can research the figures if you like...it is correct. No.. we don't agree..what you are saying is an obvious conclusion.. you could apply it to anything.. there are more whites driving cars.. there are more whites who smoke.. there are more whites who drink, more whites who go to university.. it doesn't matter what you say.. there are more whites.. the only thing that is intelligent is to say " although there are more whites on welfare in the US the percentage of blacks on welfare is double that of whites." Now.. there is the FACT and I am done arguing with you.
While the majority of poor people in America are Black, the majority of Black people are NOT poor. Of the 33.7 million Blacks in this nation, 8.1 million have incomes below the poverty line.
Out of that 8.1 million who live below the poverty line work. Now let's go to welfare:
>>The number of Medicaid recipients has surged in recent years because of high unemployment and a weak economy, but the majority of recipients are white. Nationally, 43 percent of those who received Medicaid in 2009-2010 were non-elderly white Americans, compared to Hispanics, who comprised 28 percent Hispanics and blacks at 22 percent. African-Americans make up only about 12 percent of the total population.<<
>>SS is bankrupt and is now the nations leading welfare: The government writes retirement and disability benefit checks to 35.4 million recipients of whom 88.7 percent are White and 9.6 percent are Black. The reason behind this shocking disparity is perhaps the most lamentable of all: The life expectancy rate for Blacks is...<<
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While the majority of poor people in America are Black, the majority of Black people are NOT poor. Of the 33.7 million Blacks in this nation, 8.1 million have incomes below the poverty line.
Out of that 8.1 million who live below the poverty line work. Now let's go to welfare:
>>The number of Medicaid recipients has surged in recent years because of high unemployment and a weak economy, but the majority of recipients are white. Nationally, 43 percent of those who received Medicaid in 2009-2010 were non-elderly white Americans, compared to Hispanics, who comprised 28 percent Hispanics and blacks at 22 percent. African-Americans make up only about 12 percent of the total population.<<
>>SS is bankrupt and is now the nations leading welfare: The government writes retirement and disability benefit checks to 35.4 million recipients of whom 88.7 percent are White and 9.6 percent are Black. The reason behind this shocking disparity is perhaps the most lamentable of all: The life expectancy rate for Blacks is six years shorter than that of Whites, meaning Black workers spend years paying into a retirement system only to have White retirees reap the benefits for a longer time.<<
>>>Among the poorest of the poor--single mothers, living below the poverty line with minor children to support 39.7 percent of AFDC clients are Black single mothers and 38.1 percent are White women with children. Food stamp recipients are 37.2 percent Black and 46.2 percent White. Medicaid benefits are paid to 27.5 percent Black recipients compared to 48.5 percent White clients.<<<
>>Turning welfare reform into a "Black issue" makes racial scapegoating easy and allows stereotypes, like the Reaganera "welfare queen," to go unchallenged, public aid supporters say. Rightwing reformers cast Whites as "deserving" clients who are legitimately unable to pay their own way through no fault of their own. Blacks are labeled "undeserving" recipients who are looking for the feds to subsidize their slothfulness.<<
Erroneous stereotypes don’t present the truth, tell the real story about public assistance clients: Some 61 percent of welfare recipients are White, while 33 percent are Black.
Although the numbers show that Whites get the biggest chunk of public aid dollars, welfare critics still charge that Blacks shouldn't collect 33 percent of welfare benefits when they only make up 12 percent of the general population. They say the imbalance proves their case that Blacks are too busy complaining and blaming racism for their plight to look for a job.
In addition Black Americans are now 14.2% of the population and those stats are pretty much the same. He is right; making welfare a Black issue when it is such a small percentage out of 42 million is distorting the facts.
Now.. the person I WAS talking to.. brought up a statment that there are many more whites on welfare than blacks.. but that is an irrational statement.. as I tried to point out to him .. there are more whites drive cars.. more whites in school more whites that travel and so on.. simply .. there are more whites.. so to make it mean anything.. you have to make a comparison.. that is what I did.. there ARE nearly twice the percentage of blacks on welfare as whites. That is it.. and it is a fact.. I did not say it was a white issue or black issue.. I was simply making his statement meaningful.
The math is so simple. Using your logic. Take the total number of the us population and deduct 12 percent from that. That is the Black population
The calculate 38% from that and that will be the number of blacks on welfare.
Do the same with the much larger number that represents whites the 88%. and deduct 37 percent from that. Then I want you to compare and tell me which is the larger of the two. As of mid 2011 the total US Population was 311,800,000. There is your base whole number please do the math and post it.
Smart Lady. Please prove me wrong.
Yes it is a fact percentage wise that there are more blacks on welfare, but only in percentages. Blacks make up 12-15 percent of the total US population Whites circa 72% There are far, far more whites as blacks. As of the 2010 census there was 38 % blacks on welfare and 37 %whites on welfare. That's a lot of black people on welfare, but if you look at the numbers behind the percentages you will see that there are a much larger number of whites on welfare. not percentages. Whole numbers actual numbers.Now I am going to smash another myth for you. Most welfare recipients don't vote Democratic. They vote Republican. You see the poor states, the states that receive the most welfare are red states. States that vote overwhelmingly Republican...
The math is so simple. Using your logic. Take the total number of the us population and deduct 12 percent from that. That is the Black population
The calculate 38% from that and that will be the number of blacks on welfare.
Do the same with the much larger number that represents whites the 88%. and deduct 37 percent from that. Then I want you to compare and tell me which is the larger of the two. As of mid 2011 the total US Population was 311,800,000. There is your base whole number please do the math and post it.
Smart Lady. Please prove me wrong.
Yes it is a fact percentage wise that there are more blacks on welfare, but only in percentages. Blacks make up 12-15 percent of the total US population Whites circa 72% There are far, far more whites as blacks. As of the 2010 census there was 38 % blacks on welfare and 37 %whites on welfare. That's a lot of black people on welfare, but if you look at the numbers behind the percentages you will see that there are a much larger number of whites on welfare. not percentages. Whole numbers actual numbers.Now I am going to smash another myth for you. Most welfare recipients don't vote Democratic. They vote Republican. You see the poor states, the states that receive the most welfare are red states. States that vote overwhelmingly Republican.Red States take the cake at being the welfare queens. According to the findings, “seventy percent of counties with the fastest-growth in food-stamp aid during the last four years voted for the Republican presidential candidate in 2008 according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data compiled by Bloomberg. They include Republican strongholds like King County, Texas, which in 2008 backed Republican John McCain by 92.6 percent, his largest share in the nation; and fast-growing Douglas County, Colorado.”
Douglas County Republican Party’s Mark Baisley thinks that the republican voter will be on Mitt Romney’s side, even though they are largely the majority of the ’47%’ that Mitt seems to want to scrape off his shoe like dog droppings. Mr. Nicholas Colas, chief market strategist at ConvergEx Group LLC thinks President Obama will command the more [risk averse] educated voter who takes the less risky and longer road to success.
Romney had [unintelligently] suggested transferring control of food stamps and other federal programs to states but that would just end in disaster when nature unfurls her fury on states; like we saw happen with Hurricane Sandy last week and with Hurricane Katrina before. The states hit by disaster do not have the capability to deal with these programs while they are reeling from natural or other disasters, this would mean families would starve for weeks or months if this were to happen.
With that lack of intelligent thinking on the part of Romney, it is pretty scary to think that a 1%er will make compassionate decisions where the 47% are concerned.
Maybe it will do the country good to have so many peoples eyes opened at once when Mitt Romney pulls the welfare rug from under so many people that voted for him. That's what I would call "chickens come home to roost."