Barack Obama supports gay marriage. Do you?

by Inquisitve Kat Posted 2012/05/09 20:04:56

Related Topics: Gay Marriage, Obama, Barack Obama, Sex, Same-sex, Married, Same-sex Couples, Couple, Marriage, Gay

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	I stand behind Obama's support of gay marriage!	187 votes	45%
	I disagree with Obama's support of gay marriage!	192 votes	46%
	I'm not sure if I agree or disagree with Obama's support of gay marriage.	34 votes	8%

Barack Obama's views on gay marriage have finally fully evolved. He announced that he believes same-sex couples should be allowed to get married.
What about you? Do you think same-sex couples should be allowed to marry?

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Nat™ 2012/05/09 20:07:51

I stand behind Obama's support of gay marriage!

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Edible_... to Iamfree 2012/05/11 22:18:28

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The point is why should they be left in churches if they aren't a religious institution?
The example I used, specifically /Ancient/ Greece didn't have religion let alone their marriages solemnized by a religious ceremony. Two people decided they were going to be married and that was that. There wasn't even always a ceremony.
Nor are all marriages solemnized by a religious ceremony even today. Hence a civil marriage, you know, that document you sign so the government recognizes you're married and you get all the fun benefits that come from that. Yeah, not religious either.

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Iamfree to Edible_... 2012/05/14 01:27:29

Why are we even arguing about this? Civil unions for all would be a good compromise. Or do you not think compromise is a good thing sometimes?

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Edible_... to Iamfree 2012/05/14 12:05:43

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Take the legal benefits away from a marriage and I'm all for civil unions for all.
But I don't think that one should have to 'compromise' by not being given equal rights and instead just given a cheap cop-out.

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Iamfree to Edible_... 2012/05/14 17:00:11

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The point is, when good people strongly disagree about something like this, the best thing to do in order to continue to have a civilized society is to come to some kind of compromise. If religious people would be willing to give up state-sanctioned marriage and instead agree to state-sanctioned civil unions, with all of the benefits formerly given in marriage, why can't the gay community agree to the same? Each side would be giving up something. It isn't a "cheap cop-out"...it's simply finding a way to live together peacefully.

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Inquisi... to Iamfree 2012/05/14 18:24:39

That would be ideal, but I can't see religious people being willing to give up the name of 'marriage'.
There was this much conflict over interracial marriage... sometimes things just have to be challenged and we need to put things through and move on.

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Iamfree to Inquisi... 2012/05/14 18:27:42

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I'm religious, and I would be willing. And I know many other religious people who would be willing too. Wouldn't it be at least worth trying instead of this constant, endless bickering?

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Inquisi... to Iamfree 2012/05/14 19:44:21

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I think it would, yes.

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Edible_... to Iamfree 2012/05/16 07:52:05

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Ah, my mistake I was under the impression you meant marriage would stay, but that civil unions would be offered as a compromise.
If the legal benefits are taken from marriage, and in order to gain them everyone needs a civil union then fair enough. As long as everyone is entitled to the same benefits and the same thing, be it marriage or civil unions, then s'all good.

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Inquisi... to Edible_... 2012/05/16 08:13:18

Sorry, I was the one who was wrong... turns out what you said is exactly that they said. :-)

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Edible_... to Inquisi... 2012/05/17 06:15:57

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S'all good :)

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Iamfree to Edible_... 2012/05/16 17:28:38

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Cool. See, if we could talk this through and come to an agreement on a compromise, wouldn't it be great if our politicians could do the same on this issue? I suspect that if it were framed the right way, alot of people would be willing to lay down their swords and put this issue to rest. Thanks for the good conversation.

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Edible_... to Iamfree 2012/05/17 06:15:44

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If only they could, unfortunately I think the debate will go on for quite a while yet.
And same to you, was a nice chat.

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William... to Iamfree 2012/05/10 11:01:14

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It is today just as much of a legal agreement as a ceremony, and even then it came long before christianity and was re-defined many times. So why not now?

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Iamfree to William... 2012/05/11 05:33:02

If the majority of residents of a state choose to redefine it, I suppose that it their right to do so. I just don't see the point in alienating a large segment of the population when the simplest solution is simple to go to civil unions.

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William... to Iamfree 2012/05/11 10:07:45

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Yes, because "separate but equal" worked so well before.

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Iamfree to William... 2012/05/11 15:45:57

Who said anything about "separate but equal"? My thought is that if civil unions were the method of legalizing all partnerships between two lover, no one would be left out. Then if people want to have a religious "marriage" ceremony afterward, they could if their faith recognized such things. How is "separate but equal" involved here?

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Inquisi... to Iamfree 2012/05/11 17:43:18

Marriage licences are done by the state, not the church, and church and state are separate, therefore religion has no say on who can and cannot marry.

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Iamfree to Inquisi... 2012/05/11 18:31:36

Are you paying any attention at all to what I said, not once but two or three times? I advocate for state-sanctioned civil unions for all, with religious "marraige" ceremonies to follow at churches if people with.

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Inquisi... to Iamfree 2012/05/11 20:35:37

But 'marriage' is in the state's hand, not only the church.

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Iamfree to Inquisi... 2012/05/11 20:39:35

I'm asking you one more time, please go back and read what I've written. I am suggesting that the state should go strictly to legal civil unions for everyone. Then people could follow up with religious marriage ceremonies through their churches if they wish.

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Inquisi... to Iamfree 2012/05/11 21:18:38

"Marriage" is not a word that can be claimed by religion... I fully understood what you wrote.

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Iamfree to Inquisi... 2012/05/11 21:24:45

That is your opinion. I have a different opinion. And since that is the case for most of America (differing opinions), why can't we just eliminate the problem by going strictly to civil unions for legal purposes, and save "marriage" for religious purposes. Everyone's problem would then be solved, wouldn't it? This seems like a very reasonable compromise to me.

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William... to Iamfree 2012/05/11 18:32:31

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In that case I would agree, replace the legal part of marriage with civil unions and make the marriage part a religious ceremony completely separate from the legal civil union. Sounds great to me!

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Inquisi... to William... 2012/05/11 20:36:29

Religion should have no freedom to dictate who can and cannot have a marriage ceremony.

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mrdog 2012/05/10 06:43:01

I disagree with Obama's support of gay marriage!

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Absolutely disagree too...bark

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Arianne 2012/05/10 05:39:01

I stand behind Obama's support of gay marriage!

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Equal rights under law.

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Answer Ops 2012/05/10 05:22:54

I disagree with Obama's support of gay marriage!

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Supporting gay marriage is gay.

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FRED 2012/05/10 04:55:00

I stand behind Obama's support of gay marriage!

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Marriage equality for every American. http://emaildiva.net/latina/w...

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FGomez 2012/05/10 04:43:48

I disagree with Obama's support of gay marriage!

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I am gay but I think gay marriage is just a plot by divorce lawyers to make a lot of money from us.

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JL to FGomez 2012/05/10 09:18:39

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NICE STAND!

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Eris La... to FGomez 2012/05/10 09:21:19

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That may be your opinion, but don't wreck it for the rest of us.

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bluelady 2012/05/10 04:43:36

I disagree with Obama's support of gay marriage!

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and unlike Mr Obamination....I am not going to flip flop around on this

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Wayne 2012/05/10 04:41:55

I disagree with Obama's support of gay marriage!

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Civil unions are the answer for the minority, Changing the definition for the majority is not being fair to traditional Americans that are the majority.

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William... to Wayne 2012/05/10 11:02:35

Yes, during Loving V. Va we shouldn't have redefined marriage but made marriage between blacks and whites "civil unions" right?

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Wayne to William... 2012/05/10 13:40:41

Skin color has nothing to do with it.

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William... to Wayne 2012/05/10 18:42:07

It is almost identical otherwise though.

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Llesenia 2012/05/10 04:37:20

I disagree with Obama's support of gay marriage!

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As a lesbian, I appreciate his support for gay people, but it is not bright in an election year to do it publicly.

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redhorse29 2012/05/10 04:34:38

I'm not sure if I agree or disagree with Obama's support of gay marriage.

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I trust this is a distraction; noise; slight of hand. How will all the media hype on this subject resolve any the core financial issues confronting us? How does this address foreclosures, student debt, meaningful job creation, failing infrastructure, over priced medical coverage, bankrupt local state federal governments, exploding public sector unfunded benefits and salaries? No this is a media play.

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Party of One 2012/05/10 04:18:40

I stand behind Obama's support of gay marriage!

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I've always been up for this part of the equal human rights mindset...people in love who want to be together 'forever' should have equal rights to regardless of gender

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JustTheFacts 2012/05/10 04:07:21

I disagree with Obama's support of gay marriage!

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Marriage always was, is and should be between a man and a woman. If you doubt where the country is just look up the election results in North Carolina Tuesday.

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