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Fef 2012/07/20 22:00:00
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Obama administration for Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack said at a White House press briefing that he prays for rain to end the drought. Vilsack said, “I get on my knees every day. And I’m saying an extra prayer now. If I had a rain prayer or a rain dance I could do, I would do it.”

Tom Flynn, the executive director of the Council for Secular Humanism, accused Vilsack of crossing the as a government official. Flynn accused Vilsack of violating the Constitution. “...praying for rain? That’s not just government entangling itself with religion, that’s government publicly practicing it, and wallowing in superstition.”

Flynn said Vilsack "sends the wrong message to distraught farmers when the Agriculture Secretary suggests that the best response is to pray. For a Cabinet official to recommend prayer as a solution or call attention to his own devotions may violate the Constitution’s prohibition against establishment of religion. Most important, though, is that prayer doesn’t work. But if you want to test the power of prayer yourself, consider this. Apparently Secretary Vilsack’s been praying for rain every day; how’s that working out?”

Video of 7/18/12: White House Press Briefing with Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack:


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  • Gregaj7 2012/07/22 05:52:12
    No, I disagree with the Atheists
    Gregaj7
    +1
    The man stated: "I can only speak for myself". Flynn is out of line, and spewing demonic venom.
  • Nimitz Gregaj7 2012/07/22 07:07:11
  • Charles R. Anderson 2012/07/22 05:34:41
    Yes, I agree with the Atheists
    Charles R. Anderson
    +3
    It is silly to pray for rain, but it is no big deal that Vilsack is praying, so it is also rather strange to think much of it. But, I will note that because some atheists are giving him a hard time, this hardly means that all or even most atheists are giving him a hard time. For example, I am not giving him a hard time.
  • clyde 2012/07/22 04:52:31
    No, I disagree with the Atheists
    clyde
    +1
    Don't let them fool you, the Obama administration does not have a rain maker or a job creator. They are praying for campaign donations as hard as they can. What god they are praying to I have no idea.
  • wutever 2012/07/22 04:18:41
    No, I disagree with the Atheists
    wutever
    +1
    There is nothing wrong with prayer, we need the rain allover, and it probably wouldng be a big deal if it wasnt the seperation of church and state
  • Just me ♥ 2012/07/22 03:09:57
    No, I disagree with the Atheists
    Just me ♥
    There is nothing wrong with Vilsack saying he's been praying for rain. He made a statement...he didn't order everyone in America to pray for rain. Flynn needs to get over himself already.
  • Old Salt 2012/07/22 02:36:09
  • America... Old Salt 2012/07/22 17:41:11
    American☆Atheist
    it is both
  • Old Salt America... 2012/07/22 18:58:10
  • America... Old Salt 2012/07/22 21:09:47
    American☆Atheist
    the part where you can't force it on me. You are from TX so you wouldn't understand the constitution.
  • Old Salt America... 2012/07/23 00:31:24
  • mark 2012/07/22 02:04:36
    No, I disagree with the Atheists
    mark
    +4
    I am an Athiest. However , noone should be attacked for a positive prayer. Some Athiests have a "better than you" mentality just as some Christians do. Ignore those whose noses are stuck so far in the air that they have to look down upon everyone with whom they disagree.

    Flynn needs to learn to build bridges instead of constantly burning them.
  • Faith ~... mark 2012/07/22 07:02:17
    Faith ~American Patriot~
    +1
    Excellent comment
  • Ledford 2012/07/22 02:03:30
    No, I disagree with the Atheists
    Ledford
    +1
    I am an Atheist but do whatever they hell you want if it makes you happy. If you believe that telepathically asking an imaginary sky daddy that is apparently listening to over a billion people at the same time, and that out of those billion he will listen to your request and actually make rain occur than so be it. But the fact that the weather is going to do what it does based on scientifically proven events, kind of makes prayer pointless. But, like I said if it does make you happy then do it.
  • Lisa 2012/07/22 01:55:03
    No, I disagree with the Atheists
    Lisa
  • socokid Lisa 2012/07/22 03:02:14
    socokid
    +5
    Oh stop. Not one line in that makes any sense.

    Atheism = no belief in a God. Nothing more. The rest are merely thing religious apologist must assume. Strangely, it is usually a religious person that claims everything was poofed here by magic. Not scientists, not atheists.
  • Lisa socokid 2012/07/22 03:40:08
    Lisa
    +2
    i know, i just remembered that picture when i read this article, so I posted this. If i offended you or anybody in anyway i sincerely apologize
  • socokid Lisa 2012/07/22 03:51:39
    socokid
    +4
    Meh. Not offended, just seemed silly.

    Thank you, at any rate.
  • Cheeseu... Lisa 2012/07/22 08:53:12
    Cheeseus Christ
    To be honest, that's exactly what atheism is, just worded better. Anything worded like that makes no sense.
  • ★Calliope★ 2012/07/22 01:20:54
    No, I disagree with the Atheists
    ★Calliope★
    +2
    Why can't people just leave it alone?

    Why does it bother atheists so damn much? I think it's the same with the idiots at the gay pride parades that act out, not caring who sees them acting like idiots. Kids, old folks, doesn't matter. Same with these evangelical atheists.

    And PETA.

    Ugh.
  • Old Salt ★Calliope★ 2012/07/22 02:06:36
  • ★Calliope★ Old Salt 2012/07/22 14:01:54
    ★Calliope★
    +1
    Very true. I stand corrected OS.
  • Old Salt ★Calliope★ 2012/07/22 15:58:01
  • ★Calliope★ Old Salt 2012/07/22 22:18:48
    ★Calliope★
    You are a darling too!
  • mark ★Calliope★ 2012/07/22 02:08:45
    mark
    +2
    It doesn't bother me at all. I think Fef unfairly lumped all Athiests into one pile just as some Athiests do to Christians.
  • ★Calliope★ mark 2012/07/22 14:06:35
    ★Calliope★
    +1
    Mark, most people it wouldn't bother, only those with another agenda scream about it.

    I believe Fef was referring to the 'screaming' variety.

    Here on soda, it seems the vast majority (the truly strident ones and screamers) feel it is their cosmic duty to 'educate' those dumb Christians. Not the dumb Jews, or Muslims, or Pagans but the dumb Christians.

    I did qualify my statement with 'evangelical atheists'. :P
  • mark ★Calliope★ 2012/07/22 16:00:37
    mark
    +1
    :D
    If you ever catch me preaching Atheism ,please elbow me HARD.;)
  • ★Calliope★ mark 2012/07/22 22:19:34
    ★Calliope★
    +1
    Never happen!

    Good talking with you.
  • bob h. 2012/07/21 23:48:58
    Yes, I agree with the Atheists
    bob h.
    +3
    Obama went to that Church for 20 yrs; Reagan became what he thought is Christian 2 weeks before he started campaigning. Wake up
  • ray bob h. 2012/07/22 00:40:15
    ray
    +2
    Obama also allowed abortion. Wake up.
  • Ledford ray 2012/07/22 02:00:00
    Ledford
    +4
    Abortion was allowed by Roe v Wade Obama has nothing to do with it.
  • bob h. ray 2012/07/22 03:51:17
    bob h.
    What's that got to do with your question?
  • Faith ~... bob h. 2012/07/22 07:04:10 (edited)
    Faith ~American Patriot~
    +1
    obama went to a hateful, racist and vile church.
  • bob h. Faith ~... 2012/07/25 03:31:23
    bob h.
    Christian, it's a Christian Church.
  • Faith ~... bob h. 2012/07/25 05:22:20
    Faith ~American Patriot~
    You're joking, right?
  • bob h. Faith ~... 2012/07/26 01:31:18
    bob h.
    Sooo a black church is not a Christian church? Is that the message?
  • Faith ~... bob h. 2012/07/26 01:42:55
    Faith ~American Patriot~
    The race card? Really? It has nothing to do with race. It's the disgusting and hateful message preached there.
  • 4gotten Israelite 2012/07/21 23:25:27
    No, I disagree with the Atheists
    4gotten Israelite
    +1
    If you don't believe in God, then why let some one praying bother you. Atheist don't believe so they should keep their mouth closed so other's who do believe can pray in peace.
  • America... 4gotten... 2012/07/22 17:43:46
    American☆Atheist
    That is like me saying "well, you don't believe in Allah so let the government pray to Allah".
  • 4gotten... America... 2012/07/22 20:54:32 (edited)
    4gotten Israelite
    Allah! are you mistaking me as a Muslim? well I'm not

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