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ATF Tries to Revoke "Montana Made" State Sovereignty Laws

Roni August 29, 2009 18:44:20
August 26, 2009

ATF Tries to Revoke "Montana Made" State Sovereignty Laws
We all predicted this would happen.

In a move typical for that fear-mongering organization with an ever-swelling acronym, the BATFE recently wrote gun dealers in the states of Montana and Tennessee to let them know the BATFE will be disregarding the state sovereignty gun laws of each state.

The "Montana Made" law, just like Tennessee's Firearms Freedom Act, is very simple.

Much of federal authority to regulate firearm sales and transfers stems from a liberal interpretation of every American tyrant's favorite subterfuge, the "interstate commerce" clause. In essence, this is what gives the BATFE its nasty teeth.

With this in mind, Montana correctly understood that any weapon made in Montana by Montana residents and sold in Montana to Montana residents is Montana's business and Montana's business only.

Montana thus sought to take charge of its firearms industry with the application of a simple truism:

Any gun made in Montana by Montana residents and sold in Montana to Montana residents is intrastate commerce, not "interstate commerce," and thus does not full under the purview of the federal government.

Potentially, the state would be able to say goodbye to NICS checks; Brady background checks; NFA taxes, bans and NFA databases -- and most importantly, federal "assault weapons" bans, which Montana and Tennessee rightly anticipated.

In effect, the "Montana Made" law would have permitted Montana gun companies to manufacture any kind of weapon banned by federal law -- including so-called "assault weapons" -- and sell them to fellow Montana residents.

Moreover, in this scenario, no one -- neither the manufacturer nor the dealer nor the buyer -- would have to kowtow to the BATFE by paying them a $200 tax and surrendering one's privacy to their notoriously inaccurate and oft-abused National Firearms Registry.

It was a new day for freedom -- and other states besides Tennessee were thinking of following suit: Alaska, Colorado, Oklahoma and Texas.

Well, the BATFE -- never one to have its power downplayed (or acronym belittled)-- has written letters to both Montana and Tennessee gun dealers letting them know that they proceed at their own risk.

We can only guess what new horrors those words portend -- probably more dead housewives and children as disgruntled ATF thugs shoot-to-kill anyone suspected of perhaps owning a firearm not properly taxed and regulated by Washington, D.C., power brokers.

What else would be new.

A few of our members expressed interest in contacting the BATFE to vent some righteous anger -- the same thing we did when the Department of Defense said they were going to ban all once-fired military brass for resale.

Remember how the DoD reneged on that commitment after just a few days due to the widespread backlash from gun owners and law enforcement?

Well, this is a bit different. Writing the ATF and providing them with your information is akin to giving thieves your home address and the hours you won't be home.

We're going to take a different, less dangerous approach. We've been talking to state officials from both Montana and Tennessee today to try to figure out the best way we can help these state laws succeed.

Please stay tuned to updates on this supremely important issue in our next email.

For now, click here to read Luke's commentary on his blog and leave a comment as this development unfolds.

But before I leave you, would you consider a donation to the National Association for Gun Rights as we continue to fight for the right to keep and bear arms? If you're feeling particularly generous today, please click here to contribute.

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Dudley Brown
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  • Larson Whipsnade August 29, 2009 20:59:07 (edited)
    Larson Whipsnade
    +12
    I live in Montana and i can say with conviction that most Montanans are ready to gun the ATF down like Custer at Little Bighorn if they so much as think about forcing us to abandon sovereignty laws. We love our guns, we use our guns, and we are going to keep our guns, and the Government be damned if they think they are going to force us to do otherwise.
    abandon sovereignty laws love guns guns guns government damned force
    abandon sovereignty laws love guns guns guns government damned force

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  • steven December 03, 2009 19:08:47
    steven
    +1
    God bless these folks for their efforts! I support them in any way I possibly can. And when you need great training that rivals and EXCEEDS what even the military gives, consider looking into http://frontsight.com.
  • David P October 30, 2009 21:48:43
    David P
    +1
    Marxist suck and I'm ready for revolution.
  • Carpefriggingdiem August 31, 2009 12:17:14
    Carpefriggingdiem
    +3
    I love this concept. Damn. Imagine a Made in Montana .50 cal automatic belt-fed deer rifle. Just what's needed for that varmints of all sorts, four-legged and two.
  • Roni Carpefr... September 02, 2009 01:36:44
    Roni
    +1
    I like it!
  • jscusmc69 Carpefr... September 02, 2009 03:50:14 (edited)
    jscusmc69
    +1
    CARP---Cap must have been pulled from NV or HE quit!!
    Was posting in his article about this sh*t-----
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/...
    AND POOF HE was gone!!

    Belt-fed deer rifle---WHAT ARE you trying to do SKIN,CLEAN and Package all at once!!1 ROFLMAO-----SOUNDS like something the COYOTE would use from ACME!!

    belt-fed deer rifle---what skinclean packageall once1 roflmao-----sounds teh coyote acme
  • fed up August 30, 2009 05:42:44
    fed up
    +6
    It was just a matter of time. I think the Feds are going to get some serious resistance on this one though.
  • Roni fed up September 02, 2009 01:38:17
    Roni
    +2
    If this administration keeps pissing off the CIA, the FBI, and our military, Pelosi and Reid are going to find themselves going door to door, trying to collect America's guns by themselves!
  • Sioux August 30, 2009 03:31:34
    Sioux
    +6
    We must all stand together as Americans. This is an attack on our country and it's freedoms. Talk to people on the left and they deny our freedoms are being taken away, yet when Bush did certain things, they agreed our freedoms were being taken away. It's a double standard they have. The same with the right during Bush's administration. This is not a left nor a right thing.
    We must all take a stand together and tell them we will not budge and we will not give up our rights.
    Don't forget this is how Hitler eventually gained power. Think of all the founding fathers and how they told us to take care of our Republic. They warned us this would happen, now we have allowed our rights to be taken away.
    We let our government do this to us time and time again, all in the name of watching soaps, or wondering who Britney Spears is dating next, or what sport's team is going to win the pennant.
    We need to focus on protecting our freedoms, and do it together as a country.
    If we don't our country will be hijacked and we will be America no more.
    Remember this from childhood?
    United we stand, divided we fall.
    Truer words were never spoken.
  • Kelly August 30, 2009 03:17:24
    Kelly
    +7
    Why am I not surprised? We will be seeing more of this sort of nitpicking as they try to chip away our freedom, hoping we won't notice. We must bombard them with our outrage!
  • Roni Kelly September 02, 2009 01:39:24
    Roni
    +1
    September 12th, they'll hear our outrage!
  • Kelly Roni September 02, 2009 12:01:11
    Kelly
    +2
    Indeed!
  • tiotom77 August 30, 2009 02:26:51 (edited)
    tiotom77
    +8
    One fact is true. If people want guns, they will have guns..legally or illegal. I lived in Montana for 16 years.. I wouldn't want to be the person to tell a Montanan to give up their gun.
  • Roni tiotom77 September 02, 2009 01:39:48
    Roni
    +1
    Me either!
  • Shane August 30, 2009 02:23:01
    Shane
    +8
    It will come down to a Waco scenario, where one of three things will happen.

    A) the events of Waco will be relived.
    B) either the people of Montana will have to form a people's militia, and throw the ATF out of Montana, or the Montana governor will have to raise state troops to do the same
    C) the Montana government will kowtow to the ATF, and they will have their way anyhow.

    Personally, I'd like to see option B. Its about time the federal government bureaucrats realize that we will not put up with their intrusions into our lives. We are a collection of soveriegn states. The second ammendment forbids the federal government from infringing upon the right of the people to keep and bear arms. It is time the federal government gets its nose, out of our business.
  • Carpefr... Shane August 31, 2009 12:21:06
    Carpefriggingdiem
    +3
    California has essentially circumvented the marijuana laws-----and those laws don't have to rely on a liberal interpretation of the inter-state commerce clause. The state simply ignores what is likely to be solid Constitutional law-----wrong-headed, maybe, but Constitutional.

    In contrast, Montana has simply found an overlooked "loophole." You'd think the libs would love it, wouldn't you?

    I'm with you, Shane. Option B.
  • Roni Shane September 02, 2009 01:41:56
    Roni
    Option D: This administration will inevitably tick off the ATF, just as they have the CIA, the FBI, and our troops, and Pelosi, Reid, and Frank will have to go door to door in MT, trying to take guns away from the people.
  • Shane Roni September 02, 2009 02:17:19
    Shane
    +2
    I like that idea, but I fear that without the ATF to do their dirty work, they will just start another bureaucracy or organization that is willing to go door to door and try to take our guns.

    I truly despise the people that say things along the lines of, 'they'll have to shoot me in the head before...'. Because when they get the power and the desire to come for our our guns, our children, or our lives, I fear that they will.

    Then what? There are a lot of dead bodies, stolen children, and seized guns. Their deaths will have meant nothing to the people that killed them, they will continue the suffering of their children, and they will dig us all that much further into the ground. All because, as stated in the Declaration of Independence, "...all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."

    These people must not be allowed to get the power to do so, because as history often shows: when they get that power, they use it.
  • Roni Shane September 02, 2009 02:23:26
    Roni
    +1
    Unfortunately, you may be right! Let's keep our voices raised against them. For now, that's the best weapon we have.
  • jscusmc69 Roni September 03, 2009 20:02:48
    jscusmc69
    +1
    Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
    "If you seek peace, prepare for war"
  • Roni jscusmc69 September 04, 2009 01:32:10
    Roni
    +1
    I seek peace, and to retain my freedom, so I will be prepared!
  • patpottsy August 30, 2009 00:28:48
    patpottsy
    +7
    I swear to you I will not turn over my gun to anyone.
    If that crap starts you will see states secede from the federal government.
  • Magic Twanger August 29, 2009 21:34:10
    Magic Twanger
    +11
    OK Boys and Girls, The Fed is working their plan to confiscate all guns from freedom loving Americans. This is right out of their bible, the Communist Manifesto, by Karl Marx and Joseph Engels, and the book by another Leftist Adolph Hitler, in Mein Kampf,

    karl marx joseph engels book leftist adolph hitler mein kampf
  • Socalgal Magic T... August 30, 2009 00:07:09
    Socalgal
    +8
    This may be a bit off topic by way to "Progressives" call Conservative thinkers Nazi's? Isn't it the "Progressive" that are closer to that type of thinking? Oh I was called a Reich thinker today, I really really laughed at that one.
  • Magic T... Socalgal August 30, 2009 00:25:15
    Magic Twanger
    +6
    Actually, the Socialist party in Germany were the Nazi's. Progressives are much closer to Marxists & Leninism and totalitarians rule than any group of American haters on the planet. They are my sworn enemy.
  • Carpefr... Magic T... August 31, 2009 12:21:32
    Carpefriggingdiem
    +2
    Where's Obanana's picture?
  • Magic T... Carpefr... August 31, 2009 15:53:20
    Magic Twanger
    +2
    Right Here...
  • Edward August 29, 2009 21:06:22
    Edward
    +4
    they are trying lets hope they fail
  • Larson Whipsnade August 29, 2009 20:59:07 (edited)
    Larson Whipsnade
    +12
    I live in Montana and i can say with conviction that most Montanans are ready to gun the ATF down like Custer at Little Bighorn if they so much as think about forcing us to abandon sovereignty laws. We love our guns, we use our guns, and we are going to keep our guns, and the Government be damned if they think they are going to force us to do otherwise.
    abandon sovereignty laws love guns guns guns government damned force
    abandon sovereignty laws love guns guns guns government damned force
  • Roni Larson ... August 29, 2009 21:06:56
    Roni
    +6
    That's the Montana I know and love!!! I use to live in Montana, and I remember it being just as you described! I was very surprised when I read this letter, but I'm not the least bit surprised to hear that the people of Montana won't stand for it! I wish them the best of luck, facing down the government....better yet, I wish the government the insight not to take on this task...they may not fare as well as they think they will!
  • jscusmc69 Larson ... August 30, 2009 02:50:47
    jscusmc69
    +3
    Heed HELP---Call I can be there in a flash!!----HAVE many GUNS and WILL travel!!---
  • Carpefr... Larson ... August 31, 2009 12:22:23
    Carpefriggingdiem
    +2
    Yep. There's a distinction to be made between "government" and "nation."
  • Daroach Larson ... September 04, 2009 13:54:35
    Daroach
    +1
    When will we start removing tyranny judges from our system?

    removing tyranny judges
  • jscusmc69 August 29, 2009 20:51:40
    jscusmc69
    +8


    MY answer to BATF!! COME GET SOME!!!
  • REFUSENICK jscusmc69 August 29, 2009 23:36:15
    REFUSENICK
    +3
    Nice stock...!!!!!!!!!
  • Shawn_i... jscusmc69 August 29, 2009 23:45:28
    Shawn_in_Maryland
    +6
    I can't afford that JSCUSMC! Very nice though!
    This is what I have currently. afford jscusmc
  • jscusmc69 Shawn_i... August 30, 2009 02:54:51 (edited)
    jscusmc69
    +4
    That'll getter done!!!
    I also have another ---well several OTHERS---but for really reaching out and TOUCHING someone I still like what I used in NAM----
    getter others---but reaching touching nam----
    complete with ALL the extras- switches and stealthiness (real quiet) YA it is the one I carried the pic is real close to it! MINE don't have a red nose price!!
  • Shawn_i... jscusmc69 August 30, 2009 02:59:05
    Shawn_in_Maryland
    +4
    I like anything that goes the "distance" if you know what I mean. distance
  • jscusmc69 Shawn_i... August 30, 2009 03:20:08
    jscusmc69
    +4
    Roger that!
  • Carpefr... jscusmc69 August 31, 2009 12:25:41
    Carpefriggingdiem
    +2
    What do you think of a 7.62 x 54, the old Mossan Nagant? My neigbor has a crate of them. All brand new, never fired. Crate never opened until recently. Cosmoline still on the damned things. Easy to put a bipod on them. A little 4x scope could get you out to 500 yards. (This is the scope the Russians were using on them, and with good effect.)
  • jscusmc69 Carpefr... August 31, 2009 15:13:03
    jscusmc69
    +1
    NOW How do I get a hold of HIM!! I'll take one!! hold ill

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