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ATF is out of their minds.. It is ok to export thousands of guns to be used by the cartels.. but it is against the law to stockpile chore boy scrubbers.. as gun silencers

iamnothere 2011/11/27 13:05:01
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No joke! ATF bans scrub-pad stockpiles


Feds warns kitchen staple considered part of 'silencer'




Posted: November 26, 2011
6:50 pm Eastern
By Bob Unruh © 2011 WND






"Put down the Chore Boy and back away from the weaponry!"

It's an order that actually could be heard, given that a letter
has surfaced from the federal government warning against consumers
stockpiling Chore Boy household scrubbers because they can be considered a component of a gun silencer and, therefore, regulated by federal gun laws.

The letter is from the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the ATF. It was obtained by David Codrea, who publishes online as the Gun Rights Examiner.

And it comes from a federal agency that earlier determined a
14-inch-long piece of shoestring must be regulated under federal gun
laws and restrictions because it is a "machinegun."

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The latest unusual determination from the agency is found in a letter submitted to the agency on behalf of a client. The letter is dated Nov. 26, 2010, and Codrea said it was obtained recently.

In it, an attorney was asking about a repair that a client wished
to make on an already-registered silencer for a .22 caliber rifle.

"Does sound/gas absorbing materials manufactured from Chore Boy
copper clean pads, along with fiberglass insulation, constitute a
silencer part as defined in 18 U.S.C 921(a)(24)?" he asked.

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"Yes," confirmed the letter signed by John R. Spencer, the chief of
the Firearms Technology Branch. "Gas/sound-absorbing material is the
same as a baffle in that it is designed to reduce/trap hot gases within
the expansion tube to allow cooling before they are released from the
silencer, subsequently reducing sound."

Spencer, responding to a question about whether such material
which becomes worn in a silencer could be replaced, said it would be a
violation of federal law.

"Replacement of any component part or parts of a registered
silencer, other than a silencer wipe, would be a violation of the NFA if
performed by a non-licensed manufacturer," the letter said.

The correct procedure would be for the owner of the registered
silencer to submit an application to the ATF and pay a $200 tax, the
letter said.

"Further, he would have to submit a 'no-marking' variance to FTB
since there is no viable area in which to apply a serial number to the
sound-absorbing material," Spencer wrote.

He also noted that it would not be lawful for the owner of the
registered silencer to "have a stockpile of sound-absorbing materials
for his own use in replacing deteriorated sound-absorbing material."

Here's Page 1 of the letter, which is available online:










Codrea pointed out that not even two years ago, ATF seized toy guns designed to shoot plastic BBs and said it would take only a "quick retooling" to make them fire live ammunition.

The "retooling" would involve replacing the barrel, bolt, upper and lower receivers and trigger assembly, he said.

Here's the letter, from 2004, describing the string as a "machinegun:"










The letter from Sterling Nixon, then-chief of the branch, said
any part designed and intended for use in converting a weapon into a
machinegun is a machinegun.

"The FTB examined and classified a 14-inch long shoestring with a
loop at each end. The string was attached to the cocking handle of a
semiautomatic rifle and was looped around the trigger and attached to
the shooter's finger. The device caused the weapon to fire repeatedly
until finger pressure was released from the string. Because this item
was designed and intended to convert a semiautomatic rifle into a
machingun, FTB determined that it was a machinegun as defined in 26
U.S.C. 5845(b)."



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Codrea said the Chore Boy letter just became available to him, and he blacked out the name of the attorney to keep identities confidential.

The ATF declined a request from WND to comment on the letter.

Codrea told WND that the government's responses to the questions were "ridiculous."

"They have created a condition where a Chore Boy pad can be considered a silencer," he said.


The agency also has classified
the M1 Garand, a rifle used by the U.S. military for two decades and
issued to thousands of soldiers and Marines during World War II and
Korea, as a "threat to public safety in the U.S."

States already have begun rebelling against federal rules for guns, with eight formally adopting laws that exempt guns made, sold and kept within the states from federal regulations.

A court case over that law is in the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.


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  • ed 2011/11/27 14:32:13
    ed
    +7
    do we even need the ATF ? They have become a problem that needs to go away.

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  • Katherine 2011/12/24 16:44:07
    Katherine
    +1
    ** Have they lost their damn minds?!!
  • mary E 2011/12/02 05:07:50
    mary E
    +1
    The beasts are circling and about to hem us in.
  • Todd *RP 2012* 2011/11/27 23:38:16
    Todd *RP 2012*
    +1
    and this is one reason why the ATF should be on the chopping block.
    Alcohol, tobacco, and firearms should be the name of a convenience store.
  • jubil8 BN-0 PON 2011/11/27 21:52:41
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +1
    What minds lol?

    But you can stockpile all the beanbags you want, so life will go on.
  • morning40oz~mad as hell 2011/11/27 19:54:40
    morning40oz~mad as hell
    +1
    Of course, when those of us tried to warn of these things some years ago, we were called conspiracy theorists. Don't you people see the hammer is finally coming down????? It's been up in the air for quite some time, looming there until the time is right. Well, it's happening, people! Time to wake up!
  • WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA 2011/11/27 19:25:22
    WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    Another bloated and inefficient government agency that we would be better off without.
  • Hobbitt / Oldsquid 2011/11/27 18:35:30
    Hobbitt / Oldsquid
    +4
    Time to disband the ATF
  • iamnothere Hobbitt... 2011/11/27 19:08:54
    iamnothere
    +4
    time to disband 90% of the DOj
  • dave b 2011/11/27 17:05:55
    dave b
    +4
    I dont know about the rest of you, but between Janet Napolitano warning Americans about the dangers of deep frying turkey, and this scrubbie crap from the ATF, I'm fed up with this meddling, agenda driven leftwing government.
  • iamnothere dave b 2011/11/27 19:13:22
    iamnothere
    +2
    hum one might think you are about done.. stick a fork .. I keep asking that same thing.. when will people have enough of these fools?
  • Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮ 2011/11/27 17:04:15
    Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +3
    The ATF has been insane since it's inception, and has only gotten worse as the constitution is eroding...
  • DDogbreath 2011/11/27 16:23:12
    DDogbreath
    +4
    It looks like they are "grasping at straws".

    grasping straws

    Elect a true Patriot and this will never happen.

    grasping straws elect true patriot
  • Matt 2011/11/27 16:21:10
    Matt
    +4
    I have an alternate use for "Chore Boys" !
    Chore Boy
  • Richard Hungwell AKA Relent... 2011/11/27 16:03:51 (edited)
    Richard Hungwell AKA Relentless
    +4
    But I like the ATF

    ATF store



    Oh, my bad. wrong atf. I hate those guys, I'd like to remind them why we have the second amendment in the first place.
  • dave b Richard... 2011/11/27 17:17:17
    dave b
    +4
    Sweet.....one stop shopping!
  • Richard... dave b 2011/11/28 20:00:03
    Richard Hungwell AKA Relentless
    +1
    There should be one in every town!
  • ed 2011/11/27 14:32:13
    ed
    +7
    do we even need the ATF ? They have become a problem that needs to go away.
  • Seonag 2011/11/27 14:06:38
    Seonag
    +5
    All part of the overall plan to fully disarm law abiding citizens by 2016 if Obama is re-elected.
  • turnright 2011/11/27 13:59:39
    turnright
    +5
    Tin and beer cans may also be banned because you can... oops! I said too much.
  • ManBearPig turnright 2011/11/27 18:22:30
    ManBearPig
    +2
    2L bottles as well... ruh roh looks like the soda companies will take a hit on that too
  • S. Gompers 2011/11/27 13:47:34
    S. Gompers
    +4
    Rest assured that the government will use any excess scrub pads or surplus weaponry to continue arming Mexican cartels...
  • Cognito22 2011/11/27 13:45:56
    Cognito22
    +6
    OK, obviously these guys have way too much time on their hands.

    We could probably add this whole bureau to the list of what the gov't needs to cut back on or cut out entirely.
  • iamnothere Cognito22 2011/11/27 13:51:14
    iamnothere
    +2
    yup.. and that would be a positive.. we need to disarm the feds entirely
  • Someone Else 2011/11/27 13:40:48
    Someone Else
    +4
    Chore boy is also used for smoking crack cocaine in glass pipes. Has Obama been stock piling chore boy?
  • iamnothere Someone... 2011/11/27 13:41:25
    iamnothere
    +2
    no he just sends out for it weekly LOL
  • Someone Else 2011/11/27 13:38:49
    Someone Else
    +4
    Don't forget something as simple as a potato can also be used although it's a one shot deal but if you carry more than one potato. Then you can also sing the potato song.One potato two potato three potato four,five potato six potato seven potato more.
  • Hsmagst 2011/11/27 13:28:52 (edited)

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