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As many of you may know Obama has read Ronald Reagan's writings. What has Obama learned from Reagan ?

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  • paul 2012/05/16 03:55:05 (edited)
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    Ronald Reagan is probably turning in his grave over this clown we have in the White House.

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  • Carl 2012/05/16 05:30:34
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    First he has to read the book, not just the jacket.
  • Chi~Cat Carl 2012/05/16 13:14:37
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    Hahaha, good one!
  • Evan Carl 2012/05/17 15:27:33
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    LOL, Carl. Nice.
  • paul 2012/05/16 03:55:05 (edited)
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    Ronald Reagan is probably turning in his grave over this clown we have in the White House.
  • Chi~Cat paul 2012/05/16 13:14:48
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    As our FFs.
  • Evan paul 2012/05/17 15:27:52
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    No doubt, Paul.
  • DFA 2012/05/16 03:08:18
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    Reagan raised taxes. fyi
  • Soundstorm DFA 2012/05/17 03:42:04
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    Reagan cut the budget.
  • Uranos7 2012/05/16 02:55:11
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    That reagan was a lot smarter than him.
  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/05/16 02:39:09
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    Not a thing. Not a blessed thing.
  • Dagon 2012/05/16 02:38:55
  • Stacie Dagon 2012/05/16 12:27:52
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    Excellent point. :)
  • Diana 2012/05/16 02:36:59
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    He has learned absolutely nothing.he hasn't learned to love this country or it's people.
    But that's something you don't learn.You have to have that in your heart.i don't think
    he has one.
  • Chi~Cat Diana 2012/05/16 13:20:00 (edited)
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    Not when this is in ITs stoned coal of nothingness

    And, She's back!!!! Right on!

    IT definitely would never sing this:

  • Diana Chi~Cat 2012/05/16 18:54:22
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    Thank You for putting that video on.Every Liberal on Soda Head should watch it
    to see what kind of a man Obama is.
  • Chi~Cat Diana 2012/05/16 19:00:40
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    True. However, I believe the video is far too long for their attention span.
  • Diana Chi~Cat 2012/05/16 22:21:43
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    I agree.If they like him so much.They can't be too bright..
  • Chi~Cat Diana 2012/05/16 22:39:16
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    Check this one out! It's a goodies, Diane.

    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...
  • Evan Chi~Cat 2012/05/17 15:29:06
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    Chi-Cat, that is probably true.
  • Soundstorm Chi~Cat 2012/05/17 03:50:52
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    The first vid's creepy.

    The second.....tooooo cuuuute!
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2012/05/16 02:21:42
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    Only raising taxes (Reagan raised them 11 times) can help pay down the debt and that the wealthy should not pay less in taxes than a bus driver. He also learned the supply-side economics DOES NOT WORK.
  • Alex ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2012/05/16 02:42:23
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    "Only raising taxes (Reagan raised them 11 times)"

    You're forgetting the part where he CUT [income] taxes ACROSS THE BOARD to 28% in 1981 and 1986.
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ Alex 2012/05/16 02:44:12
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    He gave a big tax cut and immediately followed it by increasing taxes, 4 times in two years and another 7 times thereafter. I can see you've swallowed the Reagan myth.
  • Alex ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2012/05/16 02:51:25
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    Thanks for acknowledging the tax cuts, you seemed to have missed them in your first comment. As for your second, Reagan signed legislation that produced base-broadening of the tax system, ending tax breaks and closing loopholes in the tax code. Surely, if someone who was paying no taxes before now had their tax break cut, they would now be paying taxes. Whether that constitutes to being "tax INCREASES" to you is your own opinion.
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ Alex 2012/05/16 03:07:54 (edited)
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    It's certainly true that Reagan entered office as a full-throated conservative vowing to cut both spending and taxes. And he quickly followed through on part of that promise, passing a major reduction in marginal tax rates. (According to author Lou Cannon, the top marginal rate fell from 70 percent when he came into office to 28 percent when he left.)

    But following his party's losses in the 1982 election, Reagan largely backed off his efforts at spending cuts even as he continued to offer the small-government rhetoric that helped get him elected. In fact, he went in the opposite direction: His creation of the department of veterans affairs contributed to an increase in the federal workforce of more than 60,000 people during his presidency.

    And while Reagan somewhat slowed the marginal rate of growth in the budget, it continued to increase during his time in office. So did the debt, skyrocketing from $700 billion to $3 trillion. Then there's the fact that after first pushing to cut Social Security benefits - and being stymied by Congress - Reagan in 1983 agreed to a $165 billion bailout of the program. He also massively expanded the Pentagon budget.

    Meanwhile, following that initial tax cut, Reagan actually ended up raising taxes - eleven times. That's according to former Republ...




    It's certainly true that Reagan entered office as a full-throated conservative vowing to cut both spending and taxes. And he quickly followed through on part of that promise, passing a major reduction in marginal tax rates. (According to author Lou Cannon, the top marginal rate fell from 70 percent when he came into office to 28 percent when he left.)

    But following his party's losses in the 1982 election, Reagan largely backed off his efforts at spending cuts even as he continued to offer the small-government rhetoric that helped get him elected. In fact, he went in the opposite direction: His creation of the department of veterans affairs contributed to an increase in the federal workforce of more than 60,000 people during his presidency.

    And while Reagan somewhat slowed the marginal rate of growth in the budget, it continued to increase during his time in office. So did the debt, skyrocketing from $700 billion to $3 trillion. Then there's the fact that after first pushing to cut Social Security benefits - and being stymied by Congress - Reagan in 1983 agreed to a $165 billion bailout of the program. He also massively expanded the Pentagon budget.

    Meanwhile, following that initial tax cut, Reagan actually ended up raising taxes - eleven times. That's according to former Republican Sen. Alan Simpson, a longtime Reagan friend who co-chaired President Obama's fiscal commission that last year offered a deficit reduction proposal.

    Reagan also raised the gas tax and signed the largest corporate tax increase in history, an act Joshua Green writes would be "utterly unimaginable for any conservative to support today."

    But the reality is that Reagan was a president who held firm beliefs but was also willing to work with his ideological opponents. And that's the sort of thing that doesn't much lend itself to mythmaking.
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  • Alex ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2012/05/16 04:42:39
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    Your copy and paste skills are so good! But please, if you're going to do that instead of writing your own arguments, then don't cherry-pick the lines that suit your point and neglect the ones that don't. In that display of high intellect by doing a couple of right clicks, you seemed to have missed this bit in between the fourth and fifth paragraph of your post:

    "It's important to note that Reagan's tax increases did not wipe out the effects of that initial tax cut. But they did eat up about half of it. And as Peter Beinart points out, the 1983 payroll tax hike went to pay for Social Security and Medicare."

    As well as neglecting to include this portion afterward:

    "Reagan was not happy about raising taxes or expanding government, and we certainly shouldn't forget that he had to work within the constraints placed upon him by a non-compliant Congress."
  • Uranos7 ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2012/05/16 02:54:09
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    Yes he cut taxes till the economy began to recover then began closing loopholes as it got better, then lowered them again once he had the economy under control. That is why he was so smart doing the right thing at the right time instead of a blanket aproach.
  • JP ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2012/05/16 02:57:16
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    Alex just handed your entire liberal lying arse to you on Obama's silver plate!
  • Alex JP 2012/05/16 04:43:11
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    When they don't tell you the whole truth, the libs don't count that as lying!
  • Oaces_b... JP 2012/05/16 09:52:36
  • Stacie JP 2012/05/16 12:29:46
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    Amen to that!
  • goatman112003 2012/05/16 02:18:53
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    He learned squat or he would of given up the communism.
  • Deere Guy 2012/05/16 02:15:58 (edited)
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    Obviously not very much......Reagan would contest Obama's every move..... crying eagle
  • Stacie Deere Guy 2012/05/16 12:20:36
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    Without a doubt.
  • Deere Guy Stacie 2012/05/16 14:05:53
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    Thank you:-)
  • Stacie Deere Guy 2012/05/16 15:47:57
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