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As if more proof was needed, that this administration is crazy: Obama's Department of Homeland Security, tell Border Patrol if confronted by an *ACTIVE SHOOTER*, to "run away" and "hide", and as a last resort: *THROW THINGS* like books!

Marvelous Wildfire 2012/07/05 13:10:27
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Patrol union blasts Homeland Security instructions to 'run away' and
'hide' from gunmen

By Perry
Chiaramonte


Published June 29, 2012


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    A pocket card handed out to Homeland Security employees in April
    detailing how they should handle an "active shooter"
    situation.


Border Patrol agents in Arizona are blasting their bosses for
telling them, along with all other Department of Homeland Security
employees, to run and hide if they encounter an "active
shooter."


It's one thing to tell civilian employees to cower under a desk if
a gunman starts spraying fire in a confined area, say members of
Tucson Local 2544/National Border Patrol Council, but to give armed
law enforcement professionals the same advice is downright insulting.
The instructions from DHS come in the form of pamphlets and a
mandatory computer tutorial.


“We are now taught in an ‘Active Shooter’ course that if we
encounter a shooter in a public place we are to ‘run away’ and
‘hide’" union leader Brandon Judd wrote on the website of
3,300-member union local. “If we are cornered by such a shooter we
are to (only as a last resort) become ‘aggressive’ and ‘throw
things’ at him or her. We are then advised to ‘call law
enforcement’ and wait for their arrival (presumably, while more
innocent victims are slaughtered)."


The FEMA-administered computer course, entitled “IS-907- Active
Shooter: What You Can Do,” is a 45-minute tutorial that provides
guidance to all employees on how to recognize indicators of possible
workplace violence and what to do should their office be invaded by
gunmen and focuses around three main options; either evacuate, hide
out, or in dire circumstances, take action.


Main Points of the "Active
Shooter" training course


  • Evacuate: If there is an accessible escape path, attempt to
    evacuate the premises.


  • Hide out: If evacuation is
    not possible, find a place to hide where the active shooter is less
    likely to find
    you.


  • Take action: As a last resort, and only when your life
    is in imminent danger, attempt to disrupt and/or
    incapacitate the
    active shooter.


Once the course is completed, employees are urged to download
additional materials including a summary booklet and pocket-sized
card outlining protocol, which was also handed out to employees two
months ago.


One DHS employee told FoxNews.com the instruction cards were
handed out to employees six weeks ago. At the time, he assumed they
were only for civilian employees, not armed law enforcement officers
within the department, which oversees the U.S. Customs and Border
Protection.


"Requiring BP agents to follow the same steps is egregious,”
he said.


DHS officials maintain that the Active Shooter course was designed
for all employees—civilian and law-enforcement officers-- and no
one should rush into a situation where they, or others around them,
could get hurt.


“The Department of Homeland Security takes very seriously its
responsibility to protect all of its employees from threats that may
surface in the workplace,” U.S. Customs and Border Protection
spokesman Michael Friel said in a written statement to FoxNews.com


“CBP workforce training is designed to prepare all employees,
including leaders, managers, supervisors, law enforcement personnel
and non-law enforcement personnel, to understand their own roles and
the roles of their fellow employees in responding to threats. In an
active shooter scenario, employees are taught to take actions that
keep them alive.”


But members of Local 2544 say they are obligated to protect the
public in such a situation, whether they are on duty or not. Given
the instructions, some wonder if they would be disciplined for taking
down a gunman in a situation like the Fort Hood shooting or the
January, 2011 case in Casa Adobes, in which a deranged gunmen shot 19
people, including Democratic Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. Six people were
killed.


“It is always comforting to know that for those of us who carry
a weapon when we are off-duty, if we should encounter such a
situation, stop a shooter and save countless lives, we can look
forward to being disciplined or fired by the Border Patrol because we
should have run away to hide and then maybe thrown objects at the
deranged killer instead of taking action and stopping him with a
firearm,” the union local's website says.

Read More: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/29/border-patrol...

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  • Marvelous Wildfire 2012/07/05 13:14:24
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    Marvelous Wildfire
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    Cowardice is *NOT* a virtue!

    "I have a dream!
    A dream where instead of reading about a cute college coed left dead and naked out in a vacant lot or bloated and floating in a river, the story reads, “dead jack ass found double-tapped and dead on the curb as his soul wings its way to hell, all because he messed with the wrong mama.”
    -Doug Giles

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  • stayfrosty 2012/07/31 03:27:43
    Rather than worry about the deranged shooter's well being; I'd like what they...
    stayfrosty
    +1
    I'd rather be fired, than dead.
  • The Duke 2012/07/05 17:02:58
    Rather than worry about the deranged shooter's well being; I'd like what they...
    The Duke
    +2
    Cowards promote cowardice to deflect from THEIR cowardice. This "directive" in unbelievably asinine.
  • Marvelo... The Duke 2012/07/05 20:17:26
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +1
    Psychiatrist Sarah Thompson, M.D. wrote a paper titled:
    "Raging Against Self Defense: A Psychiatrist Examines The Anti-Gun Mentality"
    http://www.vcdl.org/new/ragin...

    That explains their feelings amazingly well.
  • Andy 2012/07/05 15:47:58
    Ooo! Don't forget that hiding under the desk works in almost all TV shows and...
    Andy
    +2
    Maybe wearing foil hats will stop radiation burns or aliens from stealing your thoughts. This is a joke!!!
  • Marvelo... Andy 2012/07/05 15:53:40
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +3
    You are correct: Homeland Security that refuses to sear the Border is a joke.
  • april 2012/07/05 14:08:39
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    april
    +3
    Wow! That is so asinine that I am still trying to process the whole idea, haha!
    Come on, if someone is aiming a gun at me, and I'm holding a gun as well, I sure know my first instinct would not be to run away while the "active shooter" shoots me in the back!!! Or how about I just grab any random item I can scramble for, and then throw it at him/her as I simultaneously get shot!
    Regardless of the situation, If someone is at a point where they are called an "active shooter", how can running or throwing books solve anything???!!!
    If an average citizen that owns a gun can lawfully choose to fire at an "active shooter" during a life-threatening home invasion, for example, than why does BORDER CONTROL have to run and hide???!!!
    I didn't think the world could get much crazier, but apparently I was mistaken!!!
  • Marvelo... april 2012/07/05 15:37:59
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +3
    The sad thing is, Liberal/Progressives have been teaching "Cowardice is a Virtue" for too many years.
    Now, when confronted by danger, they believe in running away.
  • april Marvelo... 2012/07/05 20:47:48
    april
    +2
    No wonder your comment started with "Cowardice is not a virtue". The whole message they've been sending out is not right and it is frustrating!
  • Marvelo... april 2012/07/05 21:38:20
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +2
    It's time those with loved ones worth protecting, assumed responsibility for their protection.

    “Law enforcement agencies and personnel have no duty to protect individuals from the criminal acts of others.” -Lynch vs North Carolina Department of Justice 1989

    This means that if you want protection from violent crime, for you and your loved ones; it’s up to YOU and YOU ALONE to provide it.

    But everyone should ask themselves this question, in their heart of hearts: Why should a cop risk his life to save something so insignificant (your life or the lives of your loved ones), that even the owner is unwilling to protect it?
  • april Marvelo... 2012/07/06 01:27:57
    april
    That really does give me more perspective. Everything you wrote makes so much sense, even if I hadn't seen the whole "big picture" yet. I like that you actually mention specific cases in some of your comments. Not only does it support your opinion, but it gives me the option of researching the details of the case. Thanks for being so informative!
  • Marvelo... april 2012/07/06 04:27:42
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +1
    Thank You!
    You are too kind!

    I never want people to simply "believe what I say", I want them to listen to what I say, then *PROVE* me right or wrong to their satisfaction.
    And if I'm wrong, I want to be corrected.

    Thank You for your kind words.
    Have a GREAT day!
  • april Marvelo... 2012/07/06 10:34:44
    april
    +1
    You're Welcome! I find you to be very kind as well!
    Thank you for being so friendly!
    As a new user, because of you sharing your questions with me, it has prompted me to give more replies than I may have...that was really nice of you...I didn't realize I was going to like this site as much as I do, haha, although I've always been very opinionated, so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised!
    Well, I like the fact that you want to express your opinions without shoving them down people's throats, and that you are open to feedback whether you agree or disagree with that person. I know I like to say my piece, but I've always been open-minded to other people's views and opinions, especially if it adds some insight to a topic I'm interested in or passionate about.
    Thanks again for sharing your questions and opinions with me!
    Have a great day, too!!!
  • Marvelo... april 2012/07/07 04:40:06
    Marvelous Wildfire
    You make this site a better place!
  • Aurora 2012/07/05 13:55:35
    Rather than worry about the deranged shooter's well being; I'd like what they...
    Aurora
    +3
    This is what liberals do best, attack, run and hide and deflect, they attack character not problems.
  • Marvelo... Aurora 2012/07/05 14:00:21
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +3
    You are of course CORRECT!
  • zbacku 2012/07/05 13:43:28
    Rather than worry about the deranged shooter's well being; I'd like what they...
    zbacku
    +3
    Obama's administration is destroying the very fabric of our Nation and making a joke of our entire History of the greatest Nation ever conceived.
  • Marvelo... zbacku 2012/07/05 13:57:35
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +3
    He hasn't the intelligence to understand, that if it weren't for the Country he spent *MILLIONS* of taxPAYERS' dollars flying around the world on his “Apology Tour”: He would be living in poverty and squaller, just like his brother in Kenya.
  • april Marvelo... 2012/07/05 14:14:17
    april
    +1
    Good point....frustrating but so true.
  • cmdrbnd007 2012/07/05 13:33:37
    Rather than worry about the deranged shooter's well being; I'd like what they...
    cmdrbnd007
    +3
    WTF! Just blow his ass away.
  • Marvelo... cmdrbnd007 2012/07/05 13:58:42
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +2
    ABSOLUTELY!
    Why is that so hard to understand?
  • cmdrbnd007 Marvelo... 2012/07/05 15:34:25
    cmdrbnd007
    +1
    Really, so now the government is telling a law enforcement agency to run and hide from the bad guy. Good grief, what's next.
  • Marvelo... cmdrbnd007 2012/07/05 15:40:00
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +2
    It is an outrage!
    Just like elementary schools now, where they teach that defending yourself from a bully's attack is as wrong as the bully's action.
  • cmdrbnd007 Marvelo... 2012/07/05 15:42:37
    cmdrbnd007
    +2
    I've always told my kids that if they are attacked at school they have my permission to strike back. My eldest daughter did, got suspended but did not get into any trouble at home from her mother or me.
  • Marvelo... cmdrbnd007 2012/07/05 16:04:26
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +2
    My sister ask that I deal with the problem of her son being suspended for defending himself when he was attacked.

    So I asked his principal, what happens if he defends himself next time?
    "He'll be suspended again!"

    So I told him, in front of her: "Then, next time, beat your assailant until you are physically *RESTRAINED* so that you *CAN NOT* continue to pummel him!"

    She jumped up from her desk and shouted: "HE'LL BE SUSPENDED IF HE DOES!"
    I said: "And he'll be suspended if he *DOESN'T* as well. Beating or crippling a bully, will usually discourage future assaults."

    Word spread quickly, he was never bullied again.
  • cmdrbnd007 Marvelo... 2012/07/05 22:30:45
    cmdrbnd007
    +1
    Nice. I think that rule is so stupid. Do they really expect someone to just stand there while s/he is being beat up? And it's the same punishment for both the instigator and the one being picked on.
  • Marvelo... cmdrbnd007 2012/07/06 04:32:49
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +1
    Yes they do!
    Their cowardice knows no limits.

    But my thing has always been this: If the punishment is the same: "Take an Honor Guard of them with you."

    Gunner s Prayer
  • Marvelous Wildfire 2012/07/05 13:14:24
    Undecided
    Marvelous Wildfire
    +5
    Cowardice is *NOT* a virtue!

    "I have a dream!
    A dream where instead of reading about a cute college coed left dead and naked out in a vacant lot or bloated and floating in a river, the story reads, “dead jack ass found double-tapped and dead on the curb as his soul wings its way to hell, all because he messed with the wrong mama.”
    -Doug Giles

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