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As Bishop of the Ward for the LDS Church, Mitt Romney taught that PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE LOATHSOME.

FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX 2012/07/18 15:52:23


Romney held several specific positions in the local lay clergy, which generally consists of males over the age of 12. Around 1977, he became a counselor to the president of the Boston Stake. He served as bishop of the ward (ecclesiastical and administrative head of his congregation) at Belmont, Massachusetts, from 1981 to 1986. As such, in addition to home teaching, he also formulated Sunday services and classes using LDS scriptures to guide the congregation.

Personally, I could give a crap what a President's religion is. But when a candidate for the Presidency not only belongs to a religion, but has taught "scripture" to the congregation as a Bishop of the Ward, which has doctrine such as THIS.. YOU BET his religion matters. This is not someone I want in charge of the country. Teaching this from a pulpit under the guise of a religion is no different than screaming it from under a hood in front of a burning cross.

"And [God] had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them. And thus saith the Lord God; I will cause that they shall be loathsome unto thy people, save they shall repent of their iniquities." (Book of Mormon: 2 Nephi 5:21)

Now.. This was not written 2000 years ago.. This was written less than 200 years ago and is what Mormons actually believe. This teaching is fundamental in understanding Josephs Smith's scriptures. It is one of the basic principles of the Book of
Mormon and is what ties Native Americans to the Ancient Hebrews (Which
has now been proven impossible through Mitochondrial DNA research.)

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  • DiViews2014 2012/07/18 17:10:18
    DiViews2014
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    I know first hand that Mormons do not care for black/brown skin. They are as poison as they claim Muslims to be.

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  • jackolantyrn356 2012/07/18 18:52:50
    jackolantyrn356
    I like you. Why don't you say ontellegent things instad of playing the anti-religion stuff. You don't know if this is true or not. the "Paul" bandwagon aint pulling the Duck train around. YOU WANT PEROT TO WIN?????
  • Disside... jackola... 2012/07/18 19:43:12
    DissidentRage
    Two words: Russel's teapot.
  • FAWKES'... Disside... 2012/07/18 21:21:12 (edited)
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    I was thinking more along the lines of Moral Orel.

    Moral Orel - "Charity" from Orel Puppington on Vimeo.

  • DiViews2014 2012/07/18 17:10:18
    DiViews2014
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    I know first hand that Mormons do not care for black/brown skin. They are as poison as they claim Muslims to be.
  • gfreeman BN-0 2012/07/18 17:00:08
    gfreeman BN-0
    +2
    Don't open the Mormon closet, unless you want to die in an avalanche of skeletons.
  • DiViews... gfreema... 2012/07/18 17:10:56
    DiViews2014
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    Open the flood gates and let it rain...
  • Z 2012/07/18 16:08:11
    Z
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    First of all, that isn't even the worst part of the book of Mormon.
    Second, they have severely down played that, and it has been taught that it was a literal black skin, not African american black, but a near rotting black, since the 60's, and early in some churches. So Romney never taught it.
    Third, nothing about Romney's beliefs, policies or actions has suggested any racial bias, so this clearly hasn't had any impact on his beliefs.
    Fourth, Joseph Smith, the "prophet" who wrote/"translated," the book of Mormon was a strong abolitionist. He even had an ex-slave as one of his first clergy members. It wasn't until Brigham Young's presidency that the anti-black racial policies began, and most of his teachings (Adam-God, no black clergy, etc.) Joseph Smith even ran for president on an anti-slavery platform that would end slavery by 1850.
  • FAWKES'... Z 2012/07/18 16:19:28
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    +2
    2 Nephi 5:21 is fundamental in understanding Josephs Smith's scriptures. It is one of the basic principles of the Book of Mormon and is what ties Native Americans to the Ancient Hebrews. There must be an echo in here.

    Are you actually attempting to explain how this scripture does not exist?
  • Z FAWKES'... 2012/07/19 03:18:56
    Z
    No, nor did I say anything of the sort. First of all, do you see any native Americans with "a skin of blackness?" No. It isn't about any native Americans that exist now, and the Mormons themselves believe that it does not refer to a natural skin color, but a skin color caused by a disease, likely rotting of the skin. Maybe you should do a bit of research on the topic, instead of saying what ever you want. This was not their way of connecting the NA's to the Hebrews. There are many other verses that do that.

    This isn't even about the actual faith. This question is nothing more than an attack on Romney's religion, which would be unforgivable if he were a democrat. Because your a hypocrite.
  • FAWKES'... Z 2012/07/19 04:31:26
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    I am well aware of Mormon doctrine, this passage, what it means and the fact that Mitt Romney taught it. You, on the other hand, have no clue. I dated a Mormon on and off for 12 years. Sit though as many of their scripture studies as I have and then come back and babble your drivel.

    In the meantime perhaps you could compile for us passages from other religions where god deems inferiority upon a people based on skin color.
  • Z FAWKES'... 2012/07/19 04:53:29
    Z
    Islamic Hadith:
    Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks. Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African’s color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks.
    Al-Tabari, Vol. 2, p. 11, p. 11

    The curse of Ham in Christianity and Judaism that was used to justify racism for centuries.

    Hinduism frequently judged ponies solely by the color of their skin during early practices.

    Confusionism frequently encouraged both racism (sticking to ones racial group) and sexism.
  • FAWKES'... Z 2012/07/19 05:32:27
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    Its poetic that you equate Romney's Mormonism to Islam.

    Ponies? Really? LMAO!!!!!!
  • Z FAWKES'... 2012/07/19 06:16:48
    Z
    It's fascinating how you refuse to accept something solely because it is a political issue. I was pointing out that they all have racial issues. Every single religion has been used to further racist positions. That doesn't mean the religion is actually racist, just that the ponies teaching that particular lesson are racist. I have been to several RLDS lessons about the book of Mormon, (I frequent other religious groups meetings, Islam, Buddhism, etc) and have explained exactly what they believe about this verse. The Salt Lake CIty Mormons may think otherwise, but the RLDS mormons don't have any influence of Brigham young, and don't hold racists policies, which should say something fairly obvious. That said, again, the view you are saying is presented here hasn't been taught or believed by the majority LDS church since before Romney became a ward. He never taught such. Continuing to push this view proves you are intellectually bankrupt.
  • Jrogers FAWKES'... 2012/07/19 21:51:56
    Jrogers
    Just the fact that he buys into that whole boatload of bs makes him too gullible to be president if you ask me

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