Arizona Shooter Pleads Guilty to Avoid Death Penalty: Is Plea Deal Fair?

by AdriHead Posted 2012/08/07 20:05:14

Related Topics: Arizona Shooting, Gabrielle Giffords, Jared Lee Loughner, Death Penalty, Jared Loughner, Rampage, Guilty, Gabrielle Gifford, Prison, Arizona, Sentence, Murderer, Killed, Mass, Image

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Jared Lee Loughner, the Arizona shooter who killed six people and wounded 13 others -- including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords -- pleaded guilty to his charges Tuesday. Loughner won't be executed because of his plea deal, but he will face a life sentence in prison without the opportunity for parole. Do you think the plea deal is fair? Or did you want Jared Loughner to get the death penalty?

NYDAILYNEWS.COM reports:
Mass murderer Jared Lee Loughner pleaded guilty Tuesday in the 2011 Arizona shooting rampage that left six dead and 13 wounded — including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.

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wilsonmja 2012/08/08 02:21:10

Yes

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He shot and killed a child in cold blood...we'll see how long he lasts in prison.
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Boss 2012/08/08 20:10:41

Yes

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since this is what we, ve come to...but..they should have shot him on sight...and saved TONS of $$$$

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Ekua 2012/08/08 20:07:22

No

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Not that I am in favor of the death penalty, but I am really tired of 25% of my income going to support among other things the antiquated penal/justice system in this country. I do not have the funds to support this person living in prision, being educated in prison, not suffering from hunger or a lack of shelter when I have students who are homeless, and hungry. Stop rewarding the negative and get it correct. Shoot; this creature may live to be 80 years old or older with the TLC he and others like him garner.

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Captain... to Ekua 2012/08/08 20:16:04

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It costs more to put someone to death than it does to hold them for the rest of their lives.

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Lindsay to Captain... 2012/08/08 20:52:02

Are you sure? I thought the fatal injection only costs about 150$.

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Captain... to Lindsay 2012/08/12 16:29:11

In California the cost to keep their lifers in prison is 11.5 Million. The cost to put as many people to death as they do per year is 137 Million per year.

So yes, it does cost more overall to put someone to death than it does to keep them in prison for life.

More info on costs:
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.o...

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Lindsay to Captain... 2012/08/13 18:10:00

Haha alright. Thanks.

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Ekua to Captain... 2012/08/10 15:31:23

Where is your data to support such a claim. In 2011 the average cost, nationally, to hold someone in prison was about $31,000 dollars per year. This figure includes those locked in frderal, state and local prisons. Some states spent more per prisoner, some of couse spent less on them; hence the 'average' amount spent. The rare and one time expense executition is made more expensive via the process of appeal within the judicial system. The judiciary is another governmental system that is broken. The millions no billions wasted on this broken system would be much better spent keeping teachers, police and firefighters on their jobs.

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Captain... to Ekua 2012/08/12 16:29:27

In California the cost to keep their lifers in prison is 11.5 Million. The cost to put as many people to death as they do per year is 137 Million per year.

So yes, it does cost more overall to put someone to death than it does to keep them in prison for life.

More info on costs:
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.o...

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Ekua to Captain... 2012/08/15 14:42:58

As i stated the cost for those who are waiting to be put to death is where the $$$$ add up. Eliminate the appeal process for those who are guilty of the crime like this here 'fella' and watch the cost drop.

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Captain... to Ekua 2012/08/16 16:55:23

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So you want to get rid of the fairness of the legal system that ensures that innocents are not put to death just because of people like this? It has been proven that of the people put to death in the United States, nearly 45% of them (after new evidence comes out after their execution) are innocents of the crimes that they were put to death of.

So yes. Lets get rid of the Appeals Process and put more innocents to death because YOU don't like the costs.

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Ekua to Captain... 2012/08/18 12:15:47

I do't like the set-up. You can can presume that I am advocating for the elimination of the U.S. Justice system if it suits you. Changes are needed inside and outside of the court system. No more discussion please.

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Nameless 2012/08/08 19:56:47 (edited)

Yes

Loughner is, imo, mentally ill, and the plea deal gives him life in prison and avoids a very emotional and expensive trial. It was a very prudent decision by all concerned.

(Edit: and no true jewish individual would agree with putting Loughner to death. So, if you claim to be jewish, think again - and reconsider whether you are wanting revenge or justice. You are a poor example of what it is to be a Jew.)

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Roger47 2012/08/08 19:55:56

Yes

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Killing the mentally ill demeans us all.

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graham.... to Roger47 2012/08/08 20:56:04 (edited)

Not killing them weakens the gene pool. You are not above nature.

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sha_lyn68 to graham.... 2012/08/08 22:58:12

He's behind bars for life. He won't be procreating.

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bob 2012/08/08 19:54:23

No

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I hope the other prisoners deal him the justice he deserves

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Nameless to bob 2012/08/08 19:58:22

He'll likely be in protective custody and justice was served. You want revenge and that is just an indication of you as a person...

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Iamfree 2012/08/08 19:38:47

No

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I would have preferred an "Other" answer. I'm only okay with it if the families of his victims are okay. If this deal was made over the objections of even one family, it's wrong. He's a stone cold killer and does not deserve to be breathing air. It's a shame he wasn't killed at the site.

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angel face 2012/08/08 19:37:26

No

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He should have gotten the death penalty. He kinda resembles Rafael from Supernatural and that dude was a douche bag

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mk, Smartass Oracle 2012/08/08 19:25:38

Yes

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I'd like to see him boiled in oil , but the plea deal was a pragmatic approach

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Frank 2012/08/08 19:23:17

Yes

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Personally I can think of nothing worse than spending my life in a prison, I would rather get the death penalty myself is why I voted yes.......

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graham.... to Frank 2012/08/08 20:58:20

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You can never know until you are put in that situation. Your drive for life might surprise you.

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Frank to graham.... 2012/08/08 21:24:03

True for a lot of people, but I am not the kind of person that could do prison time. Besides I don't plan on harming anyone, and I do abide by the law........

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theprothinker 2012/08/08 19:21:45

Yes

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As long as the prison isn't some "country club" with recreational facilities, tv's, etc. He deserves bread, water, and a toilet . . . . and that's all.

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yogamartial 2012/08/08 19:20:09

Yes

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Give him the Bullet Now!

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Earl Hickey 2012/08/08 19:18:32

No

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put a bullet to his brain dead head - that;s what he deserves
piece of scum

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Tom Camfield 2012/08/08 19:08:02

No

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I can't see leaving this guy alive to brag about it. Hopefully, he'll get shanked in prison. Also, there are times that using the death penalty as a deterrent screams out for application. There are other nut jobs out there who would enjoy being "martyred" by a lifetime in prison.

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Atlas 2012/08/08 18:57:46

Yes

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Life in prison without parole is more excruciating than a painless, humane, slumber. He was not so considerate thus does not deserve to be put out of his lifetime of misery.

The only unfortunate aspect of his sentence is that he is not pretty enough to fully enjoy all of the comforts and community prison has to offer.

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Wendy 2012/08/08 18:53:19

No

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I'm sorry but I think its a bs excuse he just happend to be mental during the time before and the day of the shooting. Nevermind the outburst during his court appearances. I'm not a great supporter of the death pen but he knew what he was doing!

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Doc 2012/08/08 18:53:00

No

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Not unless the deal was approved by the families of the victims.

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rebel5871 2012/08/08 18:50:07

No

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he needs to be put to death. the people he killed did not have a choice or chance to keep livingbe put to death by firing squad. let him feel what the people he shot felt in their last moments. not be kept alive for yrs at tax payers expense.

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Mathmn to rebel5871 2012/08/10 17:45:03

So taxpayer expense is the basis for your argument? It costs ten times more to process a death penalty conviction than to keep a murderer in prison for life.

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nightowl 2012/08/08 18:40:39

Yes

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Death is too quick for a bag of feces like him. Let him suffer for the rest of his life. But I think he should be cut off from the world...no communication with anyone, no letters, no books, no nothing. Let him rot and languish.

I advocate the death penalty, but I think it should be public, maybe if the pussies of this country actually saw what death really looks like instead of a clean embalmed body in a casket or Hollywood gore, they might think twice about their actions, even if they are crazy. But then again maybe they wouldn't...some loons want to be famous.

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Matt 2012/08/08 18:40:10

Yes

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10-20 years of appeals just make the death penalty much too expensive to pursue. It is much, much, cheaper to house a convicted killer for life without parole.

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Bob 2012/08/08 18:38:23

Yes

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Yes, because of the money it will save the state to prosecute him, and go thru the appeal process. The death penalty is a joke in most states in this country. It takes years before it's carried out. And there is a better chance of him dying in prison at the hands of other inmates, which I think is better.

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CODE 11 2012/08/08 18:34:02

Yes

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The death penalty is a joke in this country..it should be carried out within 24 hours of the accused being found quility. He would have been in jail for the rest of his life anyway..with appeal after appeal

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Jesus Alba 2012/08/08 18:33:20

No

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Not with creepy smile

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Tre 2012/08/08 18:24:45

Yes

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He will pay after death. So until then, prison life will be the best he gets until he dies.

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Insanebane 2012/08/08 18:09:04

No

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Murderers should never be allowed to make any
deals for their miserable hides.

Next time show a picture of them looking like
the whipped dogs that they are.

Not with that hateful crazy ass grin.

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Frannin 2012/08/08 18:04:18

Yes

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I'll have to file this one under "acceptance." If I were him, I think I would rather be done
with my life than languish behind bars for the rest of my years.

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