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  • ruralntex IraqVet35 2010/07/20 21:57:32
    ruralntex
    huh?
  • IraqVet35 ruralntex 2010/07/21 14:32:05
    IraqVet35
    Look it up!
  • ruralntex IraqVet35 2010/07/21 16:00:04
    ruralntex
    Who was defeated badly because of a dumb ass statement? Who lost her court case and election? Kool aid? for having the gumption to ask hard questions? Or the lack of respect to refuse to follow blindly without thinking? The following blindly without thinking is the the kool-aid drinkers forte' and that appears to be you here. There are still a number of questions in regards to his eligibility for the office. Kenyan dual citizenship, the fact that Indonesia doesn't allow dual citizenship, which might serve to imply that his US citizenship may have been surrendered, and then there is Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178 which allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the child’s birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence. The only way you can have the answer as to actual birtplace is by digging into Hawaii's official documents. The long form bc would solve the last thing, but that will evidently require a judges decision as will the other things, yet no judge has had the resolve to answer any of the hard questions. If that is due to legal wrangling then 2 million in legal fees isn't hard to beleive, however, I can find no specific accounting on the subject, so your denial in that department is safe. The doubts survive.
  • IraqVet35 ruralntex 2010/07/27 20:13:19
    IraqVet35
    You are being laughed at by millions of people. The government, Congress, everyone, but you birthers, knows Obama is a citizen of the U.S.
  • ruralntex IraqVet35 2010/07/28 01:55:08
    ruralntex
    laughed at by millions of sheep who follow their Obama blindly.
  • IraqVet35 ruralntex 2010/07/28 14:43:04
    IraqVet35
    Read my above post...........fool.
  • ruralntex IraqVet35 2010/07/28 16:16:20
    ruralntex
    Questions linger, but you don't acknowlege them. You are so emamored with his greatness and odorless poop that citizenship status is perfectly irrelevant to you! Dual citizenship is a real possibility, as is surendered citizenship and the Hawaii statute that allows parents to register children born abroad, based on the residence of the parents. All are legitimate questions. There are not near enough answers to acompany the questions. We need a GOP congress so we can find out! The Dem congress loves him like you do.
  • IraqVet35 ruralntex 2010/08/02 16:49:26
    IraqVet35
    What questions linger? Who is searching for the unsolved, self-perpetuated answer to Obama's original birthplace?

    FOOLS, I SAY!! "What say you, "good American"?
  • ruralntex IraqVet35 2010/08/02 21:04:30
    ruralntex
    +1
    So you know huh? OK, tell me, are you absolutely certain that Obama was born here, considering that Hawaii state law allows parents to register foreign born children, if the parents are residents of Hawaii? Are you sure? Now, let's assume for a minute that he has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was for sure born in Hawaii. This is a hypothetical, I concede nothing. But, assuming such has been proven, are we absolutely certain that he is still not a dual citizen? Is a dual citizen eligible to be president? TELL ME, are you absolutely sure or are you running cover for your guy? Be honest! Those questions are still lingering .
  • IraqVet35 ruralntex 2010/08/03 15:20:58
    IraqVet35
    Here is my response to your request:

    1. Sate of Hawaii confirms birth of Obama.
    2. Three independent sources confirms Obama's birth.
    3. The Advertiser reported that the first published mention of the future president appeared in a Sunday Advertiser birth announcement on Aug. 13, 1961:

    "Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4."

    The identical announcement ran the following day in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin.

    Birthers wave off those birth announcements, saying that Obama family members 48 years ago could have phoned in false information to both newspapers.

    Such vital statistics, however, were not sent to the newspapers by the general public but by the Health Department, which received the information directly from hospitals.

    Birth announcements from the public ran elsewhere in both papers and usually included information such as the newborn's name, weight and time of birth.

    Birthers have failed to get state and federal courts in Hawai'i, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, California, Georgia and Mississippi to force Hawai'i officials to produce a copy of Obama's birth certificate, with many of the courts agreeing that birth records are confidential.

    In October, the Hawai'i Supreme Court denied a writ of mandamus on behalf of Internet columnist Andy Martin. The court r...












































    Here is my response to your request:

    1. Sate of Hawaii confirms birth of Obama.
    2. Three independent sources confirms Obama's birth.
    3. The Advertiser reported that the first published mention of the future president appeared in a Sunday Advertiser birth announcement on Aug. 13, 1961:

    "Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4."

    The identical announcement ran the following day in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin.

    Birthers wave off those birth announcements, saying that Obama family members 48 years ago could have phoned in false information to both newspapers.

    Such vital statistics, however, were not sent to the newspapers by the general public but by the Health Department, which received the information directly from hospitals.

    Birth announcements from the public ran elsewhere in both papers and usually included information such as the newborn's name, weight and time of birth.

    Birthers have failed to get state and federal courts in Hawai'i, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, California, Georgia and Mississippi to force Hawai'i officials to produce a copy of Obama's birth certificate, with many of the courts agreeing that birth records are confidential.

    In October, the Hawai'i Supreme Court denied a writ of mandamus on behalf of Internet columnist Andy Martin. The court ruled that Martin did not have a "direct tangible interest" in seeking Obama's birth certificate.

    In December, the U.S. Supreme Court — without comment — declined to hear arguments in another case alleging Obama did not meet the Constitution's citizenship requirements.

    NO RECORD HAS BEEN PRESENTED THAT SHOWS OBAMA TO HAVE DUAL CITIZENSHIP, OR ANY CLAIM ON HIS BEHALF.

    THIS REMINDS ME OF THE DEMOCRATS STARTING THE BS ABOUT JOHN MCCAIN IN 2008, BUT YOU SAW VERY LITTLE MEDIA COVERAGE BY THE FAR RIGHT.....ALMOST NONE.

    In the Constitution, the law contains one other section of historical note, concerning the Panama Canal Zone and the nation of Panama. In 8 USC 1403, the law states that anyone born in the Canal Zone or in Panama itself, on or after February 26, 1904, to a mother and/or father who is a United States citizen, was "declared" to be a United States citizen. Note that the terms "natural-born" or "citizen at birth" are missing from this section.

    In 2008, when Arizona Senator John McCain ran for president on the Republican ticket, some theorized that because McCain was born in the Canal Zone, he was not actually qualified to be president. However, it should be noted that section 1403 was written to apply to a small group of people to whom section 1401 did not apply. McCain is a natural-born citizen under 8 USC 1401(c): "a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person." Not everyone agrees that this section includes McCain — but absent a court ruling either way, we must presume citizenship. There was no argument on John McCain's Constitutional status, and I for one would never have supported any claim that he wasn't a legal resident.

    I'm sorry that you are part of a very small segment of the country that doubts the legality of President Obama. I have spoken personally to three Republicans that do not agree with the birthers, but one stated "let them have their fun, it keeps things fired up."

    Interesting side note......

    A congressional resolution introduced by Rep. Neil Abercrombie, D-Hawai'i, commemorating the 50th anniversary of Island statehood was temporarily postponed because birthers objected to a clause noting Obama was born in Hawaii.

    The line "Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961;" appeared to be construed by birthers as a thinly veiled attempt to get Congress to affirm Obama's U.S. citizenship.

    As the issue came to a vote, Minnesota Republican Congresswoman Michele Bachmann rose to object, saying there was not a quorum present.

    The House later voted unanimously 378-0 to approve the resolution. Bachmann voted in favor of the resolution.

    Why do you birthers continue to bring up this issue while House and Senate Republicans laugh at you?

    I don't think there is anybody who has researched these issues more than I have, but I hope that it the very near future you will put all the facts in front of you and accept the reality you are hoping against.

    Author of this is a Registered Republican .......... http://voices.washingtonpost....

    ONE OF THE MOST RELIABLE NON-BIAS SOURCES FOR THE TRUTH .............. http://www.politifact.com/tru...

    FROM SNOPES:

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    Want to see the actual document in question?
    http://www.factcheck.org/elec...

    NOW PROVE YOUR ARGUMENT!
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  • ruralntex IraqVet35 2010/08/03 16:06:19
    ruralntex
    "Sate of Hawaii confirms birth of Obama" Sort of true, they confirmed the authenticity of the certificate. However, that isn't the same thing as confirming he was born here, as the Hawaii statute says it isn't necessary to prove he was born in Hawaii in order to issue a certificate. Here is a link to the Hawaii statute:
    http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov...

    You say that the infomation was supplied to the newspaprer via the Health Department. I beleive that. Sort of similar to a newspaper running information about marraige licsences issued. The statement confirms that the certificate was issued, not that the birth happened in Hawaii. We already talked about the Kenyan constitution and who is considered a Kenyan citizen. B.H.O. is a dual citizen, I bet you. But we are never going to get all the information we need to show that until legislative clout is brought to focus on the issue and forces the release of a number of documents that could prove things one way or another.B.O. aint going to supply them, unless he is forced by congress. Maybe in the 112th cause that aint likely in the 111th.
  • IraqVet35 ruralntex 2010/08/04 20:56:22
    IraqVet35
    What is it that you fail to comprehend? It's apparent you don't understand the constitution.

    Why don't you just keep following the false emails and fabricated news by the talking heads. That site doesn't mean a darn thing when it comes to reporting births. By law all hospitals are require to send a certificate of birth, certified by the attending physician, to the Bureau of Vital Statistics.

    Please don't address me any further on this subject. It's obvious you don't have any ability to look at the facts. Call your congressman and ask him to tell you the truth. He/she might be able to help you.
  • ruralntex IraqVet35 2010/08/04 22:16:08
    ruralntex
    Yes hospitals do have the responsibility to send a completed certificate signed by the attending physician. THAT IS THE ONE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE!
  • IraqVet35 ruralntex 2010/08/04 21:04:43
  • DJL IraqVet35 2010/08/04 22:25:27
    DJL
    How would a certificate of live birth from 1961 be printed? A printed form would have the personal information typed in using a typewriter. Does the copy of the one that was put on the internet look like it is from 1961 or does it look like it is computer generated? The certificate also shows the fathers race as African,was that the term used in 1961?
  • One Second to Live 2010/07/15 12:16:32
  • The Electrician 2010/07/15 11:16:43
    The Electrician
    Dream on, "Birthers" are relentlessly stupid, just because they're so easily misled, they think the rest of the world is.
  • ♥Wild@H... The Ele... 2010/07/15 13:10:35
    ♥Wild@Heart♥
    +3
    Who is so easily misled?

    misled
  • The Ele... ♥Wild@H... 2010/07/15 21:42:57
    The Electrician
    Obviously anyone that believes Obama isn't a citizen. Legal experts, lawyers and courts have given proof. In all there are maybe 1000 lunatics nation wide, still pursuing this nonsense.
  • ruralntex The Ele... 2010/07/20 21:59:52
    ruralntex
    Do you think that a dual citizenship individual is eligible to be POTUS? Do you think the USSC will think the same thing?

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