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SENATE DEMOCRATS SET TO REJECT RYAN, OBAMA BUDGETS

Are You Upset With Do Nothing Senate Democrats


Senate Democrats are poised to continue their impressive streak of budgetary negligence on Wednesday by unanimously rejecting as many as five different budgets, including the one offered by President Obama. Republicans, meanwhile, are hoping that voters will pick up on the disturbing trend.

The Democratic-led Senate has not formally proposed a federal budget resolution in more than three years, and is not expected to offer one Wednesday. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) and Budget Committee chairman Kent Conrad (D., N.D.) have made explicitly clear that they have no intention of doing so before the November election.

Senate Republicans plan to offer four GOP budgets—authored by Sens. Mike Lee(R., Utah); Rand Paul (R., Ky.); Pat Toomey (R., Pa.); and House Budget Committee chairman Paul Ryan (R., Wis.)—as well as the president’s budget. None of them are expected to draw any support from Democrats.

It would mark the second year in a row that Senate Democrats have unanimously opposed the White House budget proposal. The House of Representatives hasalready voted to reject Obama’s budget 414-0.

In total, members of Congress have cast more than 500 votes in favor of what is widely seen as the official Republican budget (Ryan’s) and zero in support of the president’s plan.

It is a sign, Republicans say, that Democrats are not serious about solving what experts have called “the most predictable economic crisis in history.”

“They simply don’t want to be held accountable,” Sen. Ron Johnson (R., Wis.) told theWashington Free Beacon. “Either they don’t have a plan, or they are totally unwilling to tell the American people what their plan is.”

Sen. Jeff Sessions (R., Ala.), the ranking Republican on the Senate Budget Committee, said he thought the latter was true. “I actually think they do have a plan,” he told the Free Beacon. “Their goal is to increase spending and increase taxes. But that plan will be rejected by the American people.”

“If they believed their plan was popular, they’d want to put it out in front of people, vote on it, and brag about it,” said Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform. “That’s not what they’re doing. They’d rather run for reelection without the American people knowing what their vision of the budget would look like. It’s one thing for me to say their plan is unpopular. That’s what they’re saying.”

Democrats have been particularly reticent to propose a credible plan to reform federal entitlement programs such as Medicare and Medicaid, despite the fact that these programs are the primary drivers of the national debt. Medicare’s trustees project that the program will be insolvent by 2024.

Earlier this year, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner admitted that, even if Congress were to enact President Obama’s latest budget, “We would still be left with … what are still unsustainable commitments in Medicare and Medicaid.”

Obama pledged to make entitlement reform a priority as a candidate in 2008. “We’re going to have to take on entitlements, and I think we’ve got to do it quickly,” he said during a debate moderated by NBC. “I can’t guarantee that we’re going to do it in the next two years, but I’d like to do it in my first term as president.”

Nearly four years later, the closest thing to Medicare reform the president has offered is the Independent Payment Advisory Board, a council of appointed “experts” given sweeping power to reduce federal reimbursements to healthcare providers. Medicare’s chief actuary, Richard Foster, has raised doubts about the board’s ability to control costs.

Ryan’s budget, on the other hand, proposes to save trillions of dollars by gradually transitioning Medicare from a “fee-for-service” model to a market-oriented “premium support” plan modeled after a bipartisan proposal co-authored by Sen. Ron Wyden (D., Ore.).

Democrats have countered by accusing Republicans of trying to “end Medicare as we know it”—a charge the nonpartisan fact-checking site PolitiFact rated “Lie of The Year” in 2011—and in one case by portraying Ryan as literally throwing the elderly off a cliff.

Geithner summed up the Democratic position on entitlement reform during a House Budget Committee hearing in February when he told Ryan, “we’re not coming before you today to say we have a definitive solution to that long-term problem. What we do know is, we don’t like yours.”

President Obama and his Democratic allies have been far more resolute in their determination to raise taxes. Obama’s most recent budget calls for nearly $2 trillion in tax increases over the next decade. Conrad, the Senate budget chairman, has indicated that a similar amount would be appropriate.

Raising taxes is not something on which many politicians are eager to base their re-election campaigns. Studies have also shown that it is a particularly ineffective way to solve a nation’s debt and deficit problems. One report produced by the American Enterprise Institute examined data from a variety of countries between 1970-2007 and found “strong evidence that expenditure cuts outweigh revenue increases in successful consolidations.”

The findings echo those of a recent report from the Organization for Economic Co-Operation and Development, which concluded: “International experience shows expenditure-based fiscal consolidation tends to be more successful.”

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office recently concluded that the president’s budget, if enacted, would have a negative impact on long-term economic growth.

Ryan’s budget, on the other hand, simplifies the notoriously complex federal tax code by eliminating various loopholes and tax shelters while lowering tax rates.

Wednesday’s vote encapsulates what ought to be central issue in the 2012 campaign, Republicans say.

“This is an opportunity for the American people to assess the differences between the two parties,” a GOP budget committee aide told the Free Beacon. “We’re headed for financial disaster, and Senate Democrats are making no effort to take us off that path.”

“Republicans are actually putting forward proposals that are serious, that address the major challenges—on tax reform, entailment reform, spending reductions,” said another Republican aide. “Democrats have punted on all these issues.”

Few things better illustrate this lack of leadership more than unwillingness of Democratic lawmakers to support the president’s plan, Republicans say. Senate Democrats in all likelihood will vote in lockstep against every budget proposal, including Obama’s, and quickly move to change the subject.

“It’s a tear-off-the-Band-Aid kind of moment for them,” the GOP budget aide said. “They want to get it over with quickly so they can avoid a serious conversation about the budget.”

Even though Ryan’s budget, or any other GOP plan, has no chance of passing the Senate, Republicans want to use the moment to lay the groundwork for a winning political agenda.

“This is preparation for a Romney presidency,” Norquist said. “Republicans can line up and vote for an actual, written down budget. If Romney wins, they can turn and say, ‘I was elected to do this.’ That’s not something Obama could say about anything he did.”

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  • Tinka123 2012/05/17 14:48:16
    I think the problem is....
    Tinka123
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    I'm upset with the greater majority of our representation Dems/Repubs alike. They've abdicated the most basic obligations as representation (i.e. drafting a budget) and aren't fit to hold office.

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  • Murph 65 2012/06/02 20:30:40
    I'm ready to remove these do-nothing Senate Democrats because....
    Murph 65
    ...they are just that, do nothing. They are sitting around hoping that they can blame everything that is wrong or not working in this great country of ours on the republican party. I love Nevada, LV is my favorite place to go, but why in the God's good name they keep electing that complete cretin Reid is beyond me.
  • Tedster 2012/05/26 06:09:03
    I think the problem is....
    Tedster
    +1
    When the Repubs have been responsible for 136 filibusters and 125 clotures which is more than the last 20 some Congressional sessions combined, it's clear who the obstructionists are.

    Biotch McConnell said it best when he said, "Our number one goal is to make Obama a one term president". He didn't say it was to create jobs or fix the economy.

    It was their plan to sit this one out on the sidelines, block everything and then claim, "Obama didn't fix it so vote us back into office"! And since they were voted back in in 2010 show me one bill they've approved or submitted?
  • Barbara Hasler 2012/05/24 00:21:08
    I'm ready to remove these do-nothing Senate Democrats because....
    Barbara Hasler
    +1
    Whiney Scarey Harry, has more excuses that Obama. The House has sent over several bills, but Scarey is afraid to bring them up for a vote. Unfortunately he doesn't come up for re-election for four more years. He is definitely the poster child for the Democratic party. No guts, and no glory. Just a sniveling idiot that needs to be replaced.
  • peggy 2012/05/23 01:42:35
    I'm ready to remove these do-nothing Senate Democrats because....
    peggy
    +1
    They bow to the Do nothing Presidents whims
  • Phyl *In God i Trust* 2012/05/23 01:05:33 (edited)
    I'm ready to remove these do-nothing Senate Democrats because....
    Phyl *In God i Trust*
  • Beccy 2012/05/23 00:55:54
    I think the problem is....
    Beccy
    +1
    Both sides are at fault because they are playing to their bases during an election year.
  • ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM 2012/05/23 00:39:32
    I'm ready to remove these do-nothing Senate Democrats because....
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +1
    There is bad Representation from Both sides of the aisle, However, the DEM's are Not doing a Thing to stop Run away Spending, Bigger Gov, No Budget, Much Less Stopping ODUMBO from Issueing EO, without Congressional Approval...
    Yes House responsibility as well, But, SENATE has the Control Over Congress...
    REID, Has the Control Over the Senate and IS the Stumbling Block to the Whole Process...
  • Hamilton 2012/05/18 23:16:44
    I'm ready to remove these do-nothing Senate Democrats because....
    Hamilton
    +2
    Well, they are Democrats... what else do you need to know?
  • Arel 2012/05/18 22:15:14
    I think the problem is....
    Arel
    +1
    all those regardless of political affiliation that have allowed greed to take over what their acutal job is. Service of those they represent has long been ignored for power and money. The U.S. Constituion has been ignored for too long it is time to vote all Progressives out.
  • Doc 2012/05/18 21:27:08
    I think the problem is....
    Doc
    +1
    I actually LIKE the fact that the senate Dems are so Do-nothing. It's keeping them from screwing up the country even more.
  • texasred 2012/05/18 02:47:35
    I'm ready to remove these do-nothing Senate Democrats because....
    texasred
    +3
    .....they're helping Obama ruin this nation. Harry Reid should be tried for treason along with Eric Holder, et al.
  • ReconMa... texasred 2012/05/23 00:34:36
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +2
    You Got that Right...
    He, ACORN and SEIU stole the Election from Sharon Engle....
    She was ahead by double numbers on Polling day, and early returns..Low and Behold..He won...
  • texasred ReconMa... 2012/05/23 00:40:19
    texasred
    +2
    Yep... there were two things that happened:

    1. There were quite a few reports of voting machines automatically coming up with Reid's name.

    2. The Unions rented buses and made the Casino union workers go and vote... and probably threatened them it they didn't vote for Reid.
  • ReconMa... texasred 2012/05/23 00:54:23
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +2
    Most definitely did, Pluse alot of crap with ACORN...the Head Honch and 2-stooges are doing time in Prison, but the State Atty Gen, did not see a reason for a recount..
    I was still Living in Las Vegas during the 2010 Election..and there was all kinds of stuff on the news nightly...SEIU, ACORN, Black Panthers, Union Thugs, You Name it...
  • texasred ReconMa... 2012/05/24 00:13:43
    texasred
    +2
    Yep... and it really ticked me off. Mainly because I'm sure it's going to happen again.
  • ReconMa... texasred 2012/05/24 12:16:28
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +2
    Oh, You Bet it Will...
  • Of Thee I Sing... 2012/05/18 01:09:38
    I'm ready to remove these do-nothing Senate Democrats because....
    Of Thee I Sing...
    +3
    they wont be the majority for long......
  • jdemme 2012/05/17 23:13:58
    It's all the Senate Republicans fault because....
    jdemme
    +1
    All the bills in the senate have been PASSED 51-49. The Republicans filibuster, and then the bill doesn't pass.
  • texasred jdemme 2012/05/18 02:53:45
    texasred
    +3
    25 House-Passed Jobs Bills Stuck in the Democratic-Run Senate

    http://www.speaker.gov/genera...
  • Live Fr... texasred 2012/05/18 05:00:50
    Live Free Or Die
    The bills went through the Republican-Run House of Representatives first though, all 25.
  • texasred Live Fr... 2012/05/19 04:33:17
    texasred
    +2
    Right... the House passed them and the Senate won't even discuss them, much less vote on them.
  • Live Fr... texasred 2012/05/19 07:29:44
    Live Free Or Die
    +1
    I thought your argument was that the Republicans didn't use the filibuster for bills that passed in the Senate, my bad.
  • texasred Live Fr... 2012/05/19 16:53:43
    texasred
    +3
    Reid won't even let the bills come up for discussion, much less a filibuster or a vote. That and the fact that the Senate refuses to create a budget make me sick.
  • Live Fr... texasred 2012/05/20 04:21:21
    Live Free Or Die
    The House and the Senate are supposed to both pass budget resolutions based on the President's proposed budget.

    Instead the Republicans passed a budget resolution that was in stark contrast to the President's.

    Any Senate resolution would require 60 votes for cloture to avoid a filibuster if the resolution is not approved by the House, and it wouldn't be. So I don't find the Democrats at fault.
  • texasred Live Fr... 2012/05/23 00:11:00 (edited)
    texasred
    +2
    Every budget the President has provided has been voted down, 100%, by both Dems and Republicans. The Senate rejected by a 0-97 vote the 2012 budget proposed by Barack Obama. A budget resolution based on President Obama’s 2013 budget failed to get any votes in the Senate, 0-99.

    "Instead the Republicans passed a budget resolution that was in stark contrast to the President's." Sounds like that's a good thing. The House has at least provided a budget for the Senate to work with, which they absolutely refuse to do.

    And you are wrong about 60 votes... The Senate only requires 51 votes (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/... There are 57 Democrats in the Senate and 40 Republicans in the Senate. There are also two independents who caucus with the Democrats.

    Sorry. You need to wake up. The Democrats - especially the Senate and Harry Reid - are definitely at fault.
  • Live Fr... texasred 2012/05/23 01:26:29
    Live Free Or Die
    Discretionary budgets have already gone through. We're talking about appropriations resolutions, which have been continued and not brought to the Senate Floor because they will not pass without being filibustered. So they have been and are continued resolutions until further notice.

    The Republicans (in case you did not read the first time) are ALSO supposed to make their budgets BASED on the President's budget, which they in no way did.....and you say without the House passing them the Democrats can. You need to go back to civics class.

    .
  • texasred Live Fr... 2012/05/24 00:29:15
    texasred
    +2
    "supposed to make their budgets BASED on the President's budget"

    Nowhere does it say their budget has to be based on the President's budget... They can start with it and they can trash it if they think it needs to be trashed.

    NO BUDGETS have gone through from the Senate. If you can show me where you found that piece of crap information, I'd be highly surprised.

    And I did not say" without the House passing them the Democrats can." I said the bills, the jobs bills and the budget, that have been passed by the House can go to the Senate for negotiation and discussion. They can also go to the Senate for vote. The Senate can also generate a budget to go to the House for negotiation and discussion. If they use their 51 votes to approve sending it to the House for discussion, they will have then proposed a budget.

    Talk about needing to go back to civics class. You need intense remedial classes in civics and how the Congress works.
  • Live Fr... texasred 2012/05/24 16:53:10 (edited)
    Live Free Or Die
    The President, himself, is supposed to use the guidelines from the OMB and the largest portion of that is discretionary spending, which unless there is some reason why he shouldn't, he does. That budget is then sent to Congress with the understanding that appropriated spending budgets are to be voted on after approval by various commissions.

    These resolutions have to be passed by both houses in order to make it back to the President's desk.

    Sure, the House CAN completely ignore what is in the President's budget (which is based on recommendations by the subcommittees) for some other alternative like phasing out medicare/social security and getting rid of the health care bill, while refusing to negotiate on military spending cuts or tax increases, but THEY are the ones not negotiating.

    So ANYTHING the Senate offers will be very much like what the President is offering and without APPROVAL from the House would face a filibuster or a 60 vote majority for cloture, and then there is NO agreement at all anyway. Now, unless you think those are good ideas for our country you must consider that a great many people think not. The Democrats are as obligated to their constituents as the Republicans. So, no, it's you who needs to go back to civics class and try educating yourself from something other than your own narrow point of view.
  • texasred Live Fr... 2012/05/24 20:58:52
    texasred
    +1
    I'm wasting my time with you. But... what should I have expected? You're a Dim.
  • Live Fr... texasred 2012/05/25 04:51:21
    Live Free Or Die
    Actually, the Senate has offered alternative budget proposals. Unlike you, I research or try to educate myself before I jump to conclusions and feign outrage.....who's the real dim?
  • texasred Live Fr... 2012/05/26 00:16:25
  • ReconMa... texasred 2012/05/24 12:20:38
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +2
    This Clown just does not get it...
  • texasred ReconMa... 2012/05/24 20:59:14
    texasred
    +2
    And never will. Mainly because he doesn't want to.
  • ReconMa... texasred 2012/05/24 21:40:28
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +2
    No, he does Not...
  • ReconMa... Live Fr... 2012/05/23 00:19:46
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +2
    The House HAS Passed a Budget, Bi-Partisan, and Reid Refuses to accept it because HE does not approve it's contents...
    Until He accepts it into the Senate, it cannot be presented to the Floor for a Vote...ODUMBO, has come out when it passed the House in support and Urged th Senate to act upon it.....that Has Not Happened...
  • Live Fr... ReconMa... 2012/05/23 01:29:05
    Live Free Or Die
    You have to both Houses pass a budget resolution, and they don't agree. I will bet dollars to donuts you have no idea what democrats have done. I'll give you links if you insist, but you can do the research yourself. How can Democrats accept dismantling the health care plan and / or phasing out social security/Medicare. Now you will probably say you're not worried...because deep down you know you've got a democrat holding your back.
  • ReconMa... Live Fr... 2012/05/24 12:25:18
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +2
    You are not comprehending...
    The HOUSE, Has Passed a Budget, Bi-Partisan, and Presented it to The Senate...Harry Reid, Has Refused to Accept the Bill, Has Not Read it, since he has Not accepted it to read...
    ODUMBO, did say, he would Support the House Budget and urged the Senate to Review it and Vote on it...That was at Beginning of year..Reid has Not accepted it...
  • Live Fr... ReconMa... 2012/05/24 16:59:10
    Live Free Or Die
    No, YOU don't comprehend. It takes BOTH houses, THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND THE SENATE (not just a bipartisan bill in the House) to pass a budget resolution.

    To say that the President favors phasing out social security/Medicare, repeal of the health care bill, whilst ignoring his own budget cut requests and tax increases is JUST BULLSH*T.
  • ReconMa... Live Fr... 2012/05/24 17:41:34
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +2
    We Know It Takes BOTH...
    The Senate, Has NOT Passed It Yet
    ONLY the House Has Passed It....
    Until the Senate Passe It...It cannot be Forwarded to the President...
  • Live Fr... ReconMa... 2012/05/24 18:14:55 (edited)
    Live Free Or Die
    Exactly, but it isn't because they never came up with any resolutions of their own, or because they didn't allow it to come up for a vote, or because they don't agree with the President.

    It's because the House plan isn't in keeping with the recommendations made by the subcommittees or in keeping with the debt ceiling bill or the Congressional Budget Act.....so they were right to vote it down.

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