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Are you OK with a TSA proposal will require airlines to let passengers to fly with pigs and other uncontroversial service animals,for 'emotional support'?

Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/07/10 12:26:06
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Pot-bellied pigs must be granted passage on airplanes if they are used for “emotional support” by their owners, states the Department of Transportation’s (DOT) draft manual on equity for the disabled in air travel.

The DOT published its “Nondiscrimination on the Basis of Disability in Air Travel: Draft Technical Assistance Manual” in the Federal Register on July 5, providing guidance that allows swine on airplanes if they are determined to be service animals.

The manual is designed to "help carriers and indirect carriers and their employees/contractors that provide services or facilities to passengers with disabilities, assist those passengers in accordance with" the Air Carrier Access Act. The manual open for public comments until Oct. 3.

Under the “Service Animal” section, the department lays out a scenario for airline carriers entitled “Example 1.”

The manual states: “A passenger arrives at the gate accompanied by a pot-bellied pig. She claims that the pot-bellied pig is her service animal. What should you do?”

“Generally, you must permit a passenger with a disability to be accompanied by a service animal,” reads the manual. “However, if you have a reasonable basis for questioning whether the animal is a service animal, you may ask for some verification.”

The manual instructs airline carriers and their employees to begin by asking questions about the animal, such as, “What tasks or functions does your animal perform for you?” or “What has its training been?”

“If you are not satisfied with the credibility of the answers to these questions or if the service animal is an emotional support or psychiatric service animal, you may request further verification,” the guidebook states. “You should also call a CRO [Complaints Resolution Official] if there is any further doubt as to whether the pot-bellied pig is the passenger's service animal.”

If the answers are satisfactory, pot-bellied pigs, which can weigh as much as 300 pounds, must be accepted aboard the plane.

“Finally, if you determine that the pot-bellied pig is a service animal, you must permit the service animal to accompany the passenger to her seat provided the animal does not obstruct the aisle or present any safety issues and the animal is behaving appropriately in a public setting,” the manual states.

Last November, ABC News reported that a 300-pound pot-bellied pig flew on a US Airways flight from Philadelphia to Seattle because the animal was deemed a therapeutic companion pet.

Wendy Ponzo, vice president of the North American Potbellied Pig Association, said that the pigs can be used as service animals and can be trained to open and close doors and use a litter box. “They also seem to have a sense if the owner is not feeling well to stay by them,” said Ponzo, who has multiple sclerosis.

“They help me a great deal when I feel at my worst,” she said.

The DOT’s technical assistance manual is designed for airlines and passengers with disabilities under the Air Carrier Access Act (ACAA). The ACAA was passed in 1986 and bars discrimination against the disabled in air travel.

“It is designed to serve as an authoritative source of information about the services, facilities, and accommodations required by the ACAA,” the manual states. The DOT says that the manual “does not expand carriers' legal obligations or establish new requirements under the law.”

In its definition of service animal, the DOT includes creatures that provide “emotional support.” The manual defines a service animal as an “animal individually trained to perform functions to assist a person with a disability; Animal that has been shown to have the innate ability to assist a person with a disability…or Emotional support or psychiatric service animal.”

“You should be aware that there are many different types of service animals that perform a range of tasks for individuals with a disability,” the manual states.

"Be aware," it says, "that people who have disabilities that are not apparent may travel with emotional support, psychiatric service, or other service animals," it says.

Though pot-bellied pigs are permissible, the DOT forbids some animals from aircraft. “As a U.S. carrier, you are not required to carry certain unusual service animals in the aircraft cabin such as ferrets, rodents, spiders, snakes and other reptiles,” it states.

Miniature horses and monkeys, which the manual describes as “commonly used service animals,” are also permitted.

On a case-by-case basis, the DOT says, animals can be turned away if they are “too large or heavy to be accommodated in the aircraft cabin; would pose a direct threat to the health and safety of others; would cause a significant disruption in cabin service; or would be prohibited from entering a foreign country at the aircraft's destination.”

As CNSNews.com previously reported, under new Americans with Disabilities Act guidelines businesses also must permit miniature horses for use as service guide animals on their premises.

According to the DOT guidebook, if an animal is not accepted, the carrier must document the decision in writing and provide it to the passenger within 10 days.

Foreign carriers only have to accommodate dogs as service animals, unless the flight is code-shared with a U.S. carrier.

Carriers must also provide “relief areas” for service animals. “With respect to terminal facilities you own, lease, or control at a U.S. airport, you must, in cooperation with the airport operator, provide relief areas for service animals that accompany passengers with a disability who are departing, arriving, or connecting at an airport on your flights,” the manual states.

The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) of the Department of Homeland Security prohibits many items from being carried onto airplanes, including sporting goods, liquids over 3 ounces, and snow globes. The TSA has faced criticism after several incidents involving its treatment of the mentally disabled.

In June 2011, for example, at Detroit’s McNamera Terminal, the TSA confiscated a 6-inch plastic toy hammer from Drew Mandy, a severely mentally handicapped man who carried the toy for security. Mandy, who is 29-years old but has the mental capacity of a 2-year-old, was subject to a thorough pat down by TSA agents, who then threw away the toy after they considered it to be a weapon.

From: CSN News
By: Elizabeth Hamington

Read More: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/feds-airlines-must...

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  • maggiemay Charles E 2012/07/10 18:16:30
    maggiemay
    I didn't travel with my dog for "comfort." She suffers from separation anxiety, and I took her home with me to visit "family." Airlines have very strict guidelines for traveling with a pet on board their planes. Only certain airlines will even allow you to bring a pet on board. They have to be a certain weight, and their carrier has to fit under the seat to even be considered.
    If I was terrified of a dog that small I would be traveling on an Airlines that don't allow pets at all.
  • Charles E maggiemay 2012/07/10 18:57:57
    Charles E
    +1
    TSA rules will not allow airlines to ban animals.
    And the rule they imposed was for animals required for the "comfort" of the traveler, not the animal.
  • maggiemay Charles E 2012/07/11 15:36:12
    maggiemay
    +1
    That's what I said in my original comment! Read my comments.
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾ 2012/07/10 13:53:24
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    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    +2
    if you want to bring a Pig on a plane its fine with me
    Doesn't bother me any if the plane Crashes then at least I will have one last BBQ before I die
  • whitewulf--the unruly mobster 2012/07/10 13:36:52 (edited)
  • Philo-Yep, I Reckon So 2012/07/10 13:30:55
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    Philo-Yep, I Reckon So
    +7
    I think they should REQUIRE pigs on all flights - it might keep the mooslems off...
  • NoName Philo-Y... 2012/07/10 14:33:16
    NoName
    +1
    Um... you know that not eating or touching pork is not the same as being outright abhorred by it, right?
  • Marek Philo-Y... 2012/07/10 15:43:56
    Marek
    +2
    My sentiment as well. Whatever will keep them out. They can fly magic carpet.
  • Charles E Philo-Y... 2012/07/10 17:43:35
    Charles E
    Not all Muslims, Jews, or anyone else familiar with the book of Laviticus rejects pork.
    I understand that in much of Indonesia (the most populated Muslim nation on earth) pork is as popular as dog.
  • Joe61 2012/07/10 13:15:29
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    +5
    it will be practise for you....when you become a third world tin pot republic. If Obama wins re-election Obama and the third world republic of USA
  • Israel 2012/07/10 12:55:45
    This TSA proposal is nuts because....
    Israel
    +4
    Bloody rediculous. Although I doubt there would be any terrorism on the planes given muslimes would not go near one. Might turn out to be quite a deterrent.
  • LadyBGood Israel 2012/07/10 13:03:34
    LadyBGood
    +5
    Now that you put it that way...it sounds like a good idea! the muslims would most likely get "outraged" and sue!
  • Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/07/10 12:46:19
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    Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +4
    I like to see the progressives who have no problems with pigs,miniature horses & monkeys,posing as service animals,on airline passenger cabins.Be required to sit next to those passengers!
  • LadyBGood Stevern... 2012/07/10 13:04:20
    LadyBGood
    +4
    riiiiight! That would be "real" class warfare then!
  • whitewu... Stevern... 2012/07/10 13:38:48
  • FeedFwd whitewu... 2012/07/10 14:14:48
    FeedFwd
    +5
    The TSA wants them to fly, I think the TSA should take responsibility for cleaning up after them.
  • Charles E FeedFwd 2012/07/10 17:48:29
    Charles E
    +2
    And for once I will say not the poor schlep at the gate.
    Get one of the supervisors out of their air conditioned office to do that job.
  • pamela whitewu... 2012/07/10 15:16:37
    pamela
    +2
    Bet they didn't think of that one. Service animals, just do it when the feel the need, unlike us, we know when to excuse ourselves and go to the bathroom. If this really happens, maybe then they need larger planes, with a section for those people who need their service animals. I don't feel i want to sit next to/ smell, or step in some sort of animal excrement.
  • Charles E pamela 2012/07/10 17:47:14
    Charles E
    +2
    Just put both animals in the cargo hold.
  • Bill G5... whitewu... 2012/07/10 15:17:01
    Bill G53  ~PWCM~JLA
    +4
    Most likely they would wear Pampers. The problem then is their rude and obnoxious owners would be droping a diaper full of pig crap in the comode and blocking it up or in the waste can in the restroom. Either way, the restroom will be unpleasent to use.

    On a blog written by flight attendants they listed the worst things they had seen. One was a passenger left their soiled adult depends sitting on top of a comode. It's sad that just a few slobs can make travel so unpleasant for everyone else.
  • Stevern... whitewu... 2012/07/10 16:01:16
    Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    I'm not sure the TSA hasn't worked out those "details".
  • Charles E Stevern... 2012/07/10 17:53:01
    Charles E
    +1
    Their solution is to make it someone else's problem.
  • Charles E Stevern... 2012/07/10 17:45:36
    Charles E
    +1
    Excellent suggestion. If there are no progressives on that flight just grab one off another flight. We must be fair!
  • Stevern... Charles E 2012/07/10 19:05:18
    Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Also make them set with their face placed a foot or two from that "service animal".
    After a hour of the flight,the frighten animal should be producing some excessive waste products...lol
  • wolf sloan 2012/07/10 12:43:54
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    +10
    It might be preferable to some of the people I've flown with
  • LadyBGood wolf sloan 2012/07/10 13:04:41
    LadyBGood
    +6
    yeah..you have a point
  • gldynmd wolf sloan 2012/07/10 15:08:40
    gldynmd
    +2
    lol for sure!
  • Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning 2012/07/10 12:40:23
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    Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning
    +3
    Oh I'm sorry I thought this post was about my wife lol! (swine)
    I love animals and have had many diverse pets but would and have not flown with them. This involves good judgement and most airline personel cannot make this judgement in a few minutes. If someone is moving or being away for a lengthy time then they should crate their pet as many do with their dogs when they fly.
  • LadyBGood Flash,a... 2012/07/10 13:05:59
    LadyBGood
    +4
    OK I gotta ask..is she still your wife after that comment?
  • Flash,a... LadyBGood 2012/07/10 17:33:26
    Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning
    +2
    She left last week after being unfaithful.
  • TheTailor 2012/07/10 12:38:07 (edited)
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    +5
    Screw the TSA, get rid of it. Let the private industry handle the screenings of people and luggage.

    Edit:, and no, no pigs on planes, good grief.
  • jimmy TheTailor 2012/07/10 12:51:33
    jimmy
    +3
    that'll work
  • Charles E TheTailor 2012/07/10 17:55:26
    Charles E
    +2
    Two good suggestions.

    And people who want to travel with their animals just need to take alternate transportation.
  • LadyBGood 2012/07/10 12:37:41
    This TSA proposal is nuts because....
    LadyBGood
    +4
    I think that says it all.. it's nuts! Maybe they'll let chickens, sheep and goats on the flights too. Some people get really emotional over sheep and goats!
  • Israel LadyBGood 2012/07/10 13:00:11
    Israel
    +2
    Snakes and spiders too. Do not forget creepy crawlies, bees too.
  • LadyBGood Israel 2012/07/10 13:02:24
    LadyBGood
    +2
    heyyyy sweetie how are you doing?
  • Israel LadyBGood 2012/07/10 16:35:01 (edited)
    Israel
    +2
    Hi lady, ok thanks. I would need to bring my service dog for sure.

    Muslim Guide Dog

    muslims would love it because it is wearing a barka.
  • LadyBGood Israel 2012/07/10 17:17:02
    LadyBGood
    +2
    LOL I've seen that before...funny
  • Israel LadyBGood 2012/07/10 17:40:03
    Israel
    +1
    I love it. Whoever did it, is a genius.
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... LadyBGood 2012/07/10 13:55:39

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