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Are you Impressed, The First Time Gay Students Graduate Openly at Military Academies?

BIG BAD JOHN R. 2012/05/27 14:07:45
Yes, it is about time , they could be themselves and not hide.
NO, they should have stayed in hiding.
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At all three Military academies, Gay students don't have to hide that they are gay no longer. The first time a midshipman could openly take his same-sex partner to a dance. The Military is changing and waking up to the dawn of a new day!


Gay students at America's military service academies are wrapping up the first year when they no longer had to hide their sexual orientation, benefiting from the end of the "don't ask, don't tell" policy that used to bar them from seemingly ordinary activities like taking their partners openly to graduation events.

For the first time, gay students at the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis were able to take a same-sex date to the academy's Ring Dance for third-year midshipmen. The U.S. Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs, Colo., officially recognized a club for gay students this month. And gay cadets at the U.S. Military Academy in West Point, N.Y., are relieved they no longer have to worry about revealing their sexuality.

Several gay students from the nation's major military academies said the September repeal of "don't ask, don't tell," an 18-year-old legal provision under which gays could serve as long as they didn't openly acknowledge their sexual orientation, meant significant change.

"For the most part, it allows us to be a complete person, as opposed to compartmentalizing our lives into different types of boxes," said newly commissioned Air Force 2nd Lt. Dan Dwyer, who graduated from the Air Force Academy on Wednesday. West Point held its graduation Saturday, and the Naval Academy's was set for Tuesday.

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  • Timbini 2012/05/28 16:32:24
    Yes, it is about time , they could be themselves and not hide.
    Timbini
    It's about time. I served with people who were gay, one admitted it to me and several hinted at it in moments of alcohol-fueled comments. It's great that people who serve don't have to hide anymore.
  • Lynn DC 2012/05/28 14:49:24
    NO, they should have stayed in hiding.
    Lynn DC
    +1
    We need mentally and emotionally stable men and women leading our children in battle.
  • Timbini Lynn DC 2012/05/28 16:24:11
    Timbini
    And you think sexual orientation determines mental and emotional stability? Now that's funny!
  • Zuggi 2012/05/27 17:13:37
    Yes, it is about time , they could be themselves and not hide.
    Zuggi
    +1
    Good for them.
  • Richard Hungwell AKA Relent... 2012/05/27 16:47:37
    NO, they should have stayed in hiding.
    Richard Hungwell AKA Relentless
    +2
    Not that they should have stayed in hiding. No, I'm not impressed by it.

    Gay people have been graduating the academy for a long time now. I don't see how this is any different.
  • OddPlatano 2012/05/27 15:49:40
    Undecided
    OddPlatano
    +1
    I don't see why sexuality even should play a role in this but sure, yeah, good for them.
  • Ira 2012/05/27 15:39:48
    Undecided
    Ira
    I do not think a persons sexual identify needs to be or ought to be part of a commencement address in any way shape of form. However, after the address, going to the ball as a gay person is perfectly acceptable.
  • rustyshackelford 2012/05/27 15:30:50
  • Timbini rustysh... 2012/05/28 16:24:59
    Timbini
    Maybe you think too much.
  • Daniel 2012/05/27 15:16:14
    Undecided
    Daniel
    I'm not impressed.
  • Schläue~© 2012/05/27 15:02:37 (edited)
    Undecided
    Schläue~©
    +2
    And yet they don't understand the problem they're already creating. What's up with "The U.S. Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs, Colo., officially recognized a club for gay students this month."?

    Why is there any need for some specific 'club'?
    If their claim was they just wanted to be treated as equal where's the rationale for segregating into clubs? Would an anti-gay or we are 'straight only' club be embraced with open arms? (pun intended)

    This is the same thing that happened in our Congress with the establishment of the Congressional Black Caucus. It never ceases to amaze me that those who screech about 'equality' are the first to promote segregation.
  • Timbini Schläue~© 2012/05/28 16:19:27
    Timbini
    Do you have any clue how many different caucuses there are in Congress that are exclusionary? Do you have any clue how many clubs there are in the military academies that are exclusionary?

    It never ceases to amaze me to see ignorance so proudly displayed in public.
  • Schläue~© Timbini 2012/05/28 16:31:12
    Schläue~©
    +1
    Do you have any clue how little I care about how MANY there are?

    The fact that there are ANY is a joke to begin with, and the whole point.

    You may want to brush up on some reading comprehension and spend a bit less time airing your own, chronic ignorance with such enthusiasm.
  • Farnsworth 2012/05/27 14:56:56
    Undecided
    Farnsworth
    +4
    it's an embarrassment to the nation.
  • john Kills 2012/05/27 14:54:45
    NO, they should have stayed in hiding.
    john Kills
    +3
    Disgraceful
  • SteveMarine- JLA 2012/05/27 14:39:07
    Undecided
    SteveMarine- JLA
    +1
    Im just not cool with it... Im glad they want to serve our nation....but I just dont think its right to force gays on straights. If gays are allowed then there should be no separation of men and women anyore....let men and women share barracks...sense gays can.
  • Timbini SteveMa... 2012/05/28 16:29:04
    Timbini
    +1
    Nobody is forcing anyone on others. Unless you're completely unconscious, you should have noticed that (if you are currently active duty) you've been serving with gays since the moment the barber shaved your head in boot camp. Now no one has to keep their lives a secret. You are free of course to keep your life secret.
  • NPC 2012/05/27 14:33:23
    Undecided
    NPC
    +2
    A question of morality is the real subject here. Open homosexuality does not belong in the United States Military. There will be eventual trouble with this ruling. Hiding is not the word. Homosexuality is not a good thing in our military. Close quarters in combat is stressful enough. Why should the troops have to deal with LWNJ social justice to satisfy some Liberal or Progressive ? The troops deserve better.
  • Timbini NPC 2012/05/28 16:21:53
    Timbini
    Yeah, that whole equality and liberty thing, it should only apply to the chosen few.
  • Gunner NPC 2012/05/29 01:08:14
    Gunner
    I share your thoughts. 1) The military as an entity is NOT the appropriate grounds for "social experimentation." "Esprit de corps", "unit integrity", and "good order and discipline" are absolutely vital to military cohesion and success on the battlefield. Open homosexuality is a distractor from these principles; 2) The military is NOT the same as Microsoft, Walmart, Pizza places, etc. We are not a civilian business in any way, shape, or form - not even close. We have an entirely different and unique mission; thus, civilian socialization issues and standards have no place in the military; and 3) No open homosexuals in the military IS discriminatory - damned right. (see #2 above again) We also discriminate on the bases of height, weight, medical conditions, police records, education, intelligence (the lack thereof), family size, etc. etc. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
  • Wahvlvke 2012/05/27 14:25:31
    NO, they should have stayed in hiding.
    Wahvlvke
    +1
    There's gonna be a whole lotta fragging goin' on.
  • BIG BAD JOHN R. 2012/05/27 14:13:53
    Yes, it is about time , they could be themselves and not hide.
    BIG BAD JOHN R.
    +2
    If they can live, fight and die for this country, then they have earned the right to live their own lives as they choose. Equal to anyone else, in this great country. Military cadets graduation

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