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Are you aware of the Mexico-United States Social Security Treaty and will effect this nation catastrophically over next 75 years?

roger 2008/01/15 18:43:42
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Stop the US-Mexico Social Security Totalization Agreement:
Illegal Aliens Could Collect Valuable Social Security Benefits
Should we pay $1 Billion a year in Social Security Retirement benefits to ILLEGAL aliens from Mexico?
http://www.congress.org

Also, copy this text and forward to all your personal friends accross this country.

That's EXACTLY what will happen if Congress doesn't act to stop the U.S.-Mexico Social Security Treaty.

If the Treaty is allowed to go into effect, the fallout will be CATASTROPHIC – plunging Social Security further into debt and putting YOUR retirement security in jeopardy. Send a message to Congress today (http://www.congressweb.com/cweb4/index.cfm?orgcode=RS&hotiss... and tell them to say No to the U.S.-Mexico Totalization Treaty.

Currently our government has entered into 20 some totalization agreements with nations – mostly in Europe and Asia – that have economic parity to the U.S. They are designed to ensure that U.S. workers in other countries are not inflicted with burdensome double taxation and are eligible for Social Security credits based on years worked abroad.

The agreement with Mexico is different:

It will reward Mexican citizens who came to our country and worked illegally by allowing them to collect valuable U.S. Social Security benefits. The Social Security Administration admits that those who worked here using fake Social Security numbers would be rewarded with credits for years of illegal work.
It is projected to be the most costly totalization agreement – more than $300 billion over the next decade. The General Accounting Office admits that the cost of the agreement is highly uncertain and does not consider the millions of current and former unauthorized workers and their families.
It sets a dangerous precedent for encouraging illegal immigration. The Census Bureau estimates that there are as many as 11 million illegal aliens from Mexico living and working in the U.S. The Mexican government has made no secret of the fact that it encourages its workers to travel to the U.S., find work, and send money back to Mexico. Income from Mexicans living abroad is the second highest contributor to the country’s GDP.
It is crucial that Congress act now and stop this potential giveaway of billions of valuable Social Security dollars to illegal aliens from Mexico. Hard-working Americans pay taxes each and every day to support our Social Security system. At a time when Social Security is ill-prepared to keep its promise to Americans, it makes no sense allow illegal immigrants to reap the benefits.

Send a message to your Members of Congress today! http://www.congressweb.com/cweb4/index.cfm?orgcode=RS&hotissue=1
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  • Mantlemom 2008/01/15 19:05:29
    Yes
    Mantlemom
    +11
    I am aware and am unbelievably angry about it. I don't even think we should be educating them, providing welfare assistance for them, or treating them in our emergency rooms (other than to stabilize life threatening situations - then the cost of it should be deducted from US aid to Mexico), etc. I just don't "get" what it is about "illegal" that folks do not understand! OMG!

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  • DADDYFATS61 2009/08/08 21:47:55
    Yes
    DADDYFATS61
    +1
    Their stealing from America just never stops,jobs,welfare,medical care.and now they want social security,and to put the icing on the cake BHO's health care plan includes "ILLEGAL ALIENS" securityand icing cake bhos health care plan includes illegal aliens ......
  • Myst 2009/01/06 23:14:17
    Yes
    Myst
    +1
    This is the first I've heard of this treaty. If true and this treaty is signed into law we the people, legal residents of this country suffer. Our taxes are already inflated to pay for the health care and education of the illegal immigrants in our country. Already members of Congress want to grant amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants because it's easier than finding and deporting them.
  • roger Myst 2009/01/06 23:17:20 (edited)
    roger
    Our goverment at work...but not for us...pay attention to the Congressional Record...interesting read...boring at times...but a wealth of knowing what they're up too!
    http://www.gpoaccess.gov/crec...
  • ScooterballUSA 2008/12/07 09:28:58
    Undecided
    ScooterballUSA
    +1
    Why cant the illegals pay interest for claiming residence here. The Problem with illegals is that their presence with out residency is bankrupting all 50 states. The Solution is to have permits like the nation of china has. If your here illegal you have to pay for a permit to stay.
  • me 2008/03/31 18:14:00
    Yes
    me
    +2
    What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens Vacated America?
    What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens Vacated America?


    Tina Griego, journalist for the Denver Rocky Mountain News
    wrote a column titled, "Mexican Visitor's Lament" -- 10/25/07.

    She interviewed Mexican journalist Evangelina Hernandez while visiting Denver last week. Hernandez said, "They (illegal aliens) pay rent, buy groceries, buy clothes...What Happens to your country's economy if 20 million people go away?" That's a good question - it deserves an answer.

    Over 80 percent of Americans demand secured borders and illegal migration stopped. But what would happen if all 20 million or more vacated America?

    The answers may surprise you!

    In California, if 3.5 million illegal aliens moved back to Mexico, it would leave an extra $10.2 billion to spend on overloaded school systems, bankrupt hospitals and overrun prisons. It would leave highways cleaner, safer and less congested. Everyone could understand one another as English became the dominant language again.

    In Colorado, 500,000 illegal migrants, plus their 300,000 kids and grand-kids - would move back 'home', mostly to Mexico.
    That would save Coloradans an estimated $2 billion (other
    experts say $7 billion) annually in taxes that pay for schooling, medical, social-services and...










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    What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens Vacated America?
    What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens Vacated America?


    Tina Griego, journalist for the Denver Rocky Mountain News
    wrote a column titled, "Mexican Visitor's Lament" -- 10/25/07.

    She interviewed Mexican journalist Evangelina Hernandez while visiting Denver last week. Hernandez said, "They (illegal aliens) pay rent, buy groceries, buy clothes...What Happens to your country's economy if 20 million people go away?" That's a good question - it deserves an answer.

    Over 80 percent of Americans demand secured borders and illegal migration stopped. But what would happen if all 20 million or more vacated America?

    The answers may surprise you!

    In California, if 3.5 million illegal aliens moved back to Mexico, it would leave an extra $10.2 billion to spend on overloaded school systems, bankrupt hospitals and overrun prisons. It would leave highways cleaner, safer and less congested. Everyone could understand one another as English became the dominant language again.

    In Colorado, 500,000 illegal migrants, plus their 300,000 kids and grand-kids - would move back 'home', mostly to Mexico.
    That would save Coloradans an estimated $2 billion (other
    experts say $7 billion) annually in taxes that pay for schooling, medical, social-services and incarceration costs. It means 1
    2,000 gang members would vanish out of Denver alone.

    Colorado would save more than $20 million in prison costs,
    and the terror that those 7,300 alien criminals set upon local citizens. Denver Officer Don Young and hundreds of Colorado victims would not have suffered death, accidents, rapes and
    other crimes by illegals.

    Denver Public Schools would not suffer a 67% drop out / flunk-out rate because of thousands of illegal alien students
    speaking 41 different languages. At least 200,000 vehicles
    would vanish from our gridlocked cities in Colorado.

    Denver's four percent unemployment rate would vanish
    as our working poor would gain jobs at a living wage.

    In Florida, 1.5 million illegals would return the Sunshine
    State back to America, the rule of law, and English.

    In Chicago, Illinois, 2.1 million illegals would free up hospitals, schools, prisons and highways for a safer, cleaner and more crime-free experience.

    If 20 million illegal aliens returned 'home', the U.S.
    Economy would return to the rule of law. Employers would
    hire legal American citizens at a living wage. Everyone would
    pay their fair share of taxes because they wouldn't be working
    off the books. That would result in an additional $401 Billion
    in IRS income taxes collected annually, and an equal amount
    for local, state and city coffers.

    No more push '1' for Spanish or '2' for English. No
    more confusion in American schools that now must contend
    with over 100 languages that degrade the educational system
    for American kids. Our overcrowded schools would lose more
    than two million illegal alien kids at a cost of billions in
    ESL and free breakfasts and lunches.

    We would lose 500,000 illegal criminal alien inmates at a cost
    of more than $1.6 billion annually. That includes 15,000 MS-13 gang members who distribute $130 billion in drugs annually
    would vacate our country.

    In cities like L.A., 20,000 members of the '18th Street Gang' would vanish from our nation. No more Mexican forgery gangs
    for ID theft from Americans! No more foreign rapists and child molesters!

    Losing more than 20 million people would clear up our crowded highways and gridlock. Cleaner air and less drinking
    and driving American deaths by illegal aliens!

    America's economy is drained. Taxpayers are harmed.
    Employers get rich. Over $80 billion annually wouldn't return to the aliens' home countries by cash transfers. Illegal migrants earned half that money untaxed, which further drains America's economy - which currently suffers an $8.7 trillion debt.

    At least 400,000 anchor babies would not be born in our country,
    costing us $109 billion per year per cycle. At least 86 hospitals
    in California, Georgia and Florida would still be operating instead of being bankrupt out of existence because illegals pay nothing via the EMTOLA Act.

    Americans wouldn't suffer thousands of TB and hepatitis cases rampant in our country-brought in by illegals unscreened at our borders.

    Our cities would see 20 million less people driving, polluting and grid locking our cities. It would also put the 'progressives' on the horns of a dilemma; illegal aliens and their families cause 11% of our greenhouse gases

    Over one million of Mexico's poorest citizens now live inside
    and along our border from Brownsville, Texas to San Diego, California
    in what the New York Times called, "colonias" or new neighborhoods. Trouble is, those living areas resemble Bombay and Calcutta where grinding poverty, filth, diseases, drugs, crimes, no sanitation and
    worse. They live without sewage, clean water, streets, electricity, roads or any kind of sanitation.

    The New York Times reported them to be America's new
    "Third World" inside our own country. Within 20 years, at their current growth rate, they expect 20 million residents of those colonias. By enforcing our laws, we could repatriate them back to Mexico.

    We should invite 20 million aliens to go home, fix their own
    countries and/or make a better life in Mexico. We already invite a
    million people into our country legally more than all other countries combined annually.
    We cannot and must not allow anarchy at our borders, more anarchy within our borders and growing lawlessness at every level in our nation. It's time to stand up for our country, our culture, our civilization and our way of life.

    Interesting Statistics. Here are 14 reasons illegal aliens should
    vacate America, and I hope they are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them:

    1. $11 billion to $22 billion dollars are spent each year on welfare
    to illegal aliens. http://...com/zob77

    2. $2.2 billion dollars are spent each year on food assistance
    programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis..org/articles/...

    3. $2.5 billion dollars are spent each year on Medicaid for illegal
    aliens. http://www.cis..org/articles/...

    4. $12 billion dollars are spent each year on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English. ttp://transcripts.cnn.com/TRA...

    5. $17 billion dollars are spent each year for education for the
    American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TR...

    6. $3 Million Dollars PER DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal
    aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TR...

    7. 30% percent of all federal prison inmates are illegal aliens.
    http://transcripts.cnn..com/T...

    8. $90 billion dollars are spent each year on illegal aliens for
    welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TR...

    9. $200 billion dollars per year in suppressed American wages are
    caused by the illegal aliens.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TR...

    10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's
    two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their
    children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TR...

    11. During the year 2005, there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our southern border with as many as
    19,500 illegal aliens from terrorist countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine, and marijuana crossed into the U.S. from the southern border. http://...com/t9sht

    12. The National Policy Institute, estimates that the total
    cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion, or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.
    http://www.nationalpolicyinst...

    13. In 2006, illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general7...

    14. The dark side of illegal immigration: Nearly one million sex crimes are committed by illegal immigrants in the United States!" http://www.drdsk.com/articles...

    The total cost is a whopping $338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR!!!

    If this doesn't bother you, then just delete the message.
    Otherwise, forward this to everyone you know!
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  • lady bear 2008/03/30 22:06:01
    Yes
    lady bear
    +2
    I know I sent them something on this earlier in the year but thought I would go in and do it again. Dont know if I am past time on it to be effective this time. There is NO WAY that we should be giving any benifits to the illegals, whether it is Social Security, the tax rebates, health care, free babies as anchor babies, free tuition for public, private Universities and colleges. housing, welfare, food stamps. If we quit handing them the country with benifits they would have no reason to come here. Send them back,
  • Maria 2008/03/08 07:05:59
    Yes
    Maria
    +1
    Mexico suck us dry to bone. really not right.
  • roger Maria 2008/03/08 20:23:43
    roger
    well we allow it...when it is all gone we'll put our foot down...and it'll be too late.
  • Bitwise Operator 2008/03/03 21:03:37 (edited)
    Yes
    Bitwise Operator
    +1
    Doesn't surprise me a bit. Imagin if we forced the funding for this to come out of the Congressional Benefits and Retirement fund - this little bit of legislation would go away really, really fast!
  • ronnie 2008/01/16 20:57:37
    No
    ronnie
    +2
    I was unaware of such a treaty, but now that I know about it, my senators and congressman will hear from me!!!
  • dnanna 2008/01/16 18:19:50
    No
    dnanna
    +1
    should we work illegally in other countries an exspect l them to pay us,no if we are citazens yes . Any country not just Mexico
  • Seonag 2008/01/15 23:19:02
    Yes
    Seonag
    +3
    Clinton, Obama and McCain all voted for this. That is why none of them will ever get my vote. If it turned out that it was Clinton or Obama against McCain and there was no other choice, I might just have to NOT vote for the first time in my life. I just can not support anyone who wants to give my hard earned money away to illegals! By the way, legal immigrants who are here due to marriage to a U.S. Citizen, are NOT entitled to ANY Federal or State benefits for 10 years, unless the person sponsoring them (the spouse) reimburses the government. Now tell me, is that fair? I sure don't think so. In fact, my husband has to work 40 quarters (like everyone else) in order to receive any retirement SS.
  • Kitten 2008/01/15 19:25:10
    Yes
    Kitten
    +4
    This is really a terrible thing to do to all of us that worked so hard for all these years. Our government is not run under a democracy. Did anyone ask US if this is acceptable? NO. We don't have a voice in any decision that the current administration makes. Illegal immigrants are not entitled to anything.
  • Bunny Gurl ♥ 2008/01/15 19:20:42
    No
    Bunny Gurl ♥
    +3
    I have been too caught up in the election. Have to get back on track. O'man! ;)
  • Ihr Hase ~ Radix Libertas 2008/01/15 19:11:50
    Yes
    Ihr Hase ~ Radix Libertas
    +8
    This is F__KING rediculous....

    When the hell are people going to wake up to realize that policies like this will make our nation a third world nation!!!
  • roger Ihr Has... 2008/01/15 19:13:21
    roger
    +5
    I fear my friend...we are probably closer than we've thought...ceases to amaze me.
  • Ihr Has... roger 2008/01/15 19:16:35
    Ihr Hase ~ Radix Libertas
    +2
    Fortunate for me that I have no fear.....

    our nation may need to be put into these circumstances to wake all the people up...
  • roger Ihr Has... 2008/01/15 19:36:13
    roger
    +3
    You know something...I have felt that a cataclysmic event was going to occur...and you know something all the signs have been there...I don't agree with everything Ayn Rand wrote... but I do agree with her that nothing but pure incompetence and ignorance would bring this country down...this is nothing but incompetance from the Ivory towers of business down to Congress...
  • Ihr Has... roger 2008/01/15 19:48:14
    Ihr Hase ~ Radix Libertas
    +2
    Luckily I have such a low acceptable level of survival that after a potential cataclysmic event, I would be able to fight....
  • roger Ihr Has... 2008/01/15 19:50:43
    roger
    +3
    chuckling...oh I can still survive...it's going to get interesting...I just emailed all my personal friends this Treaty and I guarantee if everyone on here did same thing...glass my start to rattle...but that's dreamin eh!
  • Ihr Has... roger 2008/01/15 19:56:55
    Ihr Hase ~ Radix Libertas
    +2
    I am certain that people like dusty and tBone will say that this is not true....

    they seem to live in some world that bills never become law....
  • roger Ihr Has... 2008/01/15 20:19:50 (edited)
    roger
    +2
    tBone's mother knows about it...and she's upset. She has made a comment which you read below...every American needs to be upset...no dam wonder there's no money in SS; and we've been accusing SSA...it's the Executive and Legislative Branches pissin it away on everything.
  • Mantlemom 2008/01/15 19:05:29
    Yes
    Mantlemom
    +11
    I am aware and am unbelievably angry about it. I don't even think we should be educating them, providing welfare assistance for them, or treating them in our emergency rooms (other than to stabilize life threatening situations - then the cost of it should be deducted from US aid to Mexico), etc. I just don't "get" what it is about "illegal" that folks do not understand! OMG!
  • roger Mantlemom 2008/01/15 19:06:17
    roger
    +5
    Write your representatives...I am
  • Mantlemom roger 2008/01/15 19:10:18
    Mantlemom
    +4
    I already have...you should see the answers I got back! Unbelievable!
  • roger Mantlemom 2008/01/15 19:11:58
    roger
    +5
    You ought to post them!
  • Ihr Has... Mantlemom 2008/01/15 19:12:19
    Ihr Hase ~ Radix Libertas
    +4
    Can you post them?
  • Mantlemom Ihr Has... 2008/01/15 19:17:36
    Mantlemom
    +3
    No, I forwarded them to all of my friends in disgust, but then deleted them. I'll save the next one I get and post it here. In the last year I've gotten 6 or 8 real jewels back! (and I am talking about both Democratic and Republican...Senate, House of Representatives and the White House...and I voted for some of these goof balls!)
  • roger Mantlemom 2008/01/15 20:22:30
    roger
    +4
    Now why would that surprise me...it's both sides of the aisle...neither one is any better than the other...they've got this nation at each others throats and they set up there laughing at us.
  • roger 2008/01/15 18:56:25 (edited)
    Yes
    roger
    +4
    That's the friggin reality of our pathetic Government, and to tell the truth that's they way HIllary and McCain would like it to be. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!
  • roger roger 2008/01/15 18:58:17
    roger
    +4
    That is the way 90% of the candidates are thinking
  • roger roger 2008/01/15 19:02:11
    roger
    +2
    I totally agree some are stronger for that than others!
    The part i can't understand is how people don't talk about it and there candidates are for this and they don't have a clue?
  • roger roger 2008/01/15 19:05:31
    roger
    +3
    The Senators running for President are'nt aware of anything, all their time is spent campaigning...everything they say to we'ins is two or three weeks old...we know before they do!...sad...very sad.
  • roger roger 2008/01/15 19:07:31
    roger
    +3
    None of those bastards are blind they just choose to act like it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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