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Are you a Pervert on Gay Marriage?

mwg0735 2012/05/16 14:54:18
Pervert - To lead somebody away from good: to lead somebody or something away from what is considered good, normal, moral, or proper.

This pretty much describes all Democrats...

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  • Jack's Pearl 2012/05/16 15:08:34
    Jack's Pearl
    +14
    You obviously don't understand that we don't all agree on what is considered normal and good. To me two people that love each other is good and their sexual orientation doesn't matter. To you it's all wrong if you see a woman who loves a woman or a man a man. I just see two people in love who should have equal rights to that love as anyone else.

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  • Random 2012/07/19 06:38:36
    Random
    Meh, it doesn't affect my life, so I won't put my nose in theirs.
  • dustin.oubre 2012/06/22 04:33:16
    dustin.oubre
    +1
    So, two people who love each other is considered perversion now? I never knew that. Thanks for setting me 'straight' on the issue. Get it?

    But anyway, there's nothing wrong with gays and lesbians getting married, as it allows two people to share in their love and let others know they chose to unify themselves through marriage.

    Granted, I don't care about marriage, heterosexual or homosexual, as I don't see a point to it other than some of the legal benefits one would receive from it. But if people wish to marry, let them.

    And for the record, yes, I am gay myself.
  • mwg0735 dustin.... 2012/06/22 15:07:00
  • dustin.... mwg0735 2012/06/23 19:12:56
    dustin.oubre
    +3
    Explain why gays and lesbians shouldn't marry. And if your reason has anything to do with religion, then your argument is invalid and makes no sense. Take away religion, and there is no actual reason to ban marriage equality. Plus, the United States is not a theocracy and religion cannot and should not have any effect on governmental decisions.
  • mwg0735 dustin.... 2012/06/24 07:14:25
  • dustin.... mwg0735 2012/06/25 18:24:56
  • mwg0735 dustin.... 2012/06/25 18:29:29
  • dustin.... mwg0735 2012/06/25 18:36:05
    dustin.oubre
    The only reason marriage equality(the proper term here)is even an issue, is because we should already be allowed to marry. Marriage is a legal act, not a religious one. I don't want to get married in a Church, as I'm not religious. Gays and lesbians want to have the same rights, which we are denied by 30 states simply because they don't like us, or are using screwed up Bible verses to say God hates us. Well, if God did hate all gays and lesbians, explain why we are still here. If we are the biggest abomination of your religion, why doesn't your God ensure no one is ever anything other than heterosexual?

    Look, I'm not here to actually argue this, as there shouldn't be an argument. Marriage is a legal union of two people, and under the Constitution, no person shall be denied their civil rights by anyone. I guarantee you, in a few years, those 30 states who denied us our civil rights, those numbers will change, and then the entire country will legalize marriage equality because it's wrong to deny someone their rights.
  • mwg0735 dustin.... 2012/06/26 01:57:12
  • dustin.... mwg0735 2012/06/26 02:48:42
    dustin.oubre
    Gays and lesbians 'advertise,' as you call it, because they are denied their rights. Now, while not all the things some lgbt activists do or say are entirely right to do or say, they do it because it gets attention. The more people's attention they get, the more people know how wrong it is to deny gays and lesbians their natural rights. And no one is trying to say gay is the norm. We know we are a minority. However, that doesn't mean it's ok to deny us our civil rights.

    I'm baffled you're arguing this. Your not even making any sense half the time. Gay teachers cannot make kids gay. Allowing gay people to marry will not make other people gay, or even change society much. The only thing that would change, is that more people will get married. That's about it.

    Oh, and again, whoever claims we are trying to make ourselves the norm is a bit of a moron. It's ridiculous to think that's what we're fighting for, and it's even more ridiculous to think that could even happen. I hate repeating myself, but we know we're a minority.
  • mwg0735 2012/08/26 15:06:23
    +3
    Absolutely right, that is why homosexuals advertise so much. There has been continued indoctrination over many years to try to establish the acceptance of homosexuality as normal. There is censorship of opposing views and the right to freedom of speech by the pro-homosexual lobby from many quarters. It will never be accepted as the norm though, as you can't indoctrinate and force your ideas on to everybody.
  • rustex782 2012/05/28 16:48:25
    rustex782
    +2
    I guess its normal since it keeps reoccurring throughout time all across the world. its a natural variation to be gay. besides. . . .gays getting married doesn't "lead somebody away from good: to lead somebody or something away from what is considered good, normal, moral, or proper" so gay marriage isn't perverted by this definition.
  • mwg0735 rustex782 2012/05/28 17:13:31
  • mwg0735 rustex782 2012/05/29 02:26:42
  • rustex782 mwg0735 2012/05/29 15:55:04
    rustex782
    +1
    now your just saying stuff just to say something. how is gay marriage going to spread exactly. if you're not gay. . . . you're not gay . . . . . are you worried that you might like being gay
  • mwg0735 rustex782 2012/05/29 16:06:10
  • rustex782 mwg0735 2012/05/29 17:16:03
    rustex782
    +1
    First of all, nearly all Christians don't know what it means to be a christian in the first place. Jesus wants you to love and accept others not judge and condemn. But you should know that as a christian. Second, nobody can MAKE your child not be a christian. . . that's your child's choice to be christian NOT YOURS nor do I or anyone else have control over that. Telling people they shouldn't get married or be gay because YOU deem it to be unholy because YOUR faith is what matters is an insult to God (who I think has control over the situation just fine on his own) who is watching you speak and act in his place in HIS name. You are not qualified for such a position and are equally as damned as everyone else on the planet. Forcing your religious beliefs on others is not Christian or what Jesus wanted. Gay people getting married doesn't make your kid gay or a pervert or a pagan heathen either. Your kid will be gay or straight regardless of gay marriage and they will develop their own relationship with god regardless of you or any one else s influence. Also, this is not a christian country. You are free to be christian and raise your children christian however, but nobody can infringe on your beliefs. . that's logically impossible. . . . . and nobody is infringing on your rights in any way either..
  • mwg0735 rustex782 2012/05/29 17:31:09
  • rustex782 mwg0735 2012/05/29 17:43:35 (edited)
    rustex782
    +1
    you know what else is funny. . . Jesus never said "i want marriage between a man and a woman" and the way you think shows how you are not a real christian. . .maybe you should be Jewish since you abandon Christs teachings.
  • mwg0735 rustex782 2012/05/29 18:03:33
  • rustex782 mwg0735 2012/05/29 18:17:48
    rustex782
    +1
    yeah. i read it. . .lots. . . . . .please point me to where Jesus spoke of such things. . Oh Holy scholar of Gods wisdom. . .

    The only place Jesus really addressed or even hinted at sexuality is found in Matthew chapter 19. Here you find Jesus, the disciples and the Pharisees discussing this very topic of marriage between males and females. It is true that God created males and females and instituted marriage. But in Matthew 19 Jesus adds another thing that many ignore or overlook because it doesn't apply to them:

    Matthew 19:11-12

    Jesus replied, "Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it."

    Typically a eunuch is defined as a castrated male. This is incorrect. Castration means to remove the testicles (that were already there) or emasculate. If all eunuchs were castrated males then why would Jesus say that "some were born that way?" A eunuch is a man who has no desire or ability to have sexual relations with a woman. These men were commonly used to protect the harems. Since the Word of God is for everyone we can apply t...









    yeah. i read it. . .lots. . . . . .please point me to where Jesus spoke of such things. . Oh Holy scholar of Gods wisdom. . .

    The only place Jesus really addressed or even hinted at sexuality is found in Matthew chapter 19. Here you find Jesus, the disciples and the Pharisees discussing this very topic of marriage between males and females. It is true that God created males and females and instituted marriage. But in Matthew 19 Jesus adds another thing that many ignore or overlook because it doesn't apply to them:

    Matthew 19:11-12

    Jesus replied, "Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it."

    Typically a eunuch is defined as a castrated male. This is incorrect. Castration means to remove the testicles (that were already there) or emasculate. If all eunuchs were castrated males then why would Jesus say that "some were born that way?" A eunuch is a man who has no desire or ability to have sexual relations with a woman. These men were commonly used to protect the harems. Since the Word of God is for everyone we can apply the spiritual concept found in Galatians 3:28 where the Apostle Paul says: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." Therefore, a eunuch can be male or female in this passage.

    Jesus addressed three types of eunuchs.

    1. Those born that way. (That's people like me who are born gay.)

    2. Those made that way by men. (Those castrated or those sexually abused people who choose to be gay as a result of this abuse rather than because it is their natural sexual affinity.)

    3. Those who elect not to have a sexual relationship for the sake of the kingdom. (For example a priest or nun. This group makes the decision on their own.)

    So here, our Lord Jesus states that not everyone will marry according to the custom as in male and female. He also said that not everyone can accept this. He says that those that can accept it should accept it. Can you accept what Jesus said? I can.
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  • ✞Knight... rustex782 2012/06/07 07:35:14
    ✞Knight of Honor
    +1
    Jesus told his followers to adhere to the laws of God. Many passages in the Holy Bible state that homosexuality is immoral. Here are two examples:

    Leviticus 18:22, "Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable."

    Romans 1:18-32, "18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

    21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

    24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather...



    Jesus told his followers to adhere to the laws of God. Many passages in the Holy Bible state that homosexuality is immoral. Here are two examples:

    Leviticus 18:22, "Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable."

    Romans 1:18-32, "18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

    21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

    24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

    26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

    28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them."
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  • Captain Bacon 2012/05/18 17:40:56
    Captain Bacon
    +4
    I guess I'm a pervert, never did like anything that was good, proper, moral and definitely normal....What is NORMAL anyways.....LMFAO!!!
  • mwg0735 Captain... 2012/05/19 16:02:00
  • Bibliophilic 2012/05/17 04:52:30
    Bibliophilic
    Definitely not!
  • Me 2012/05/17 03:35:23
    Me
    wow...no
  • littlebuffalo55TBA 2012/05/17 02:46:21
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    +2
    Whew....I am so glad the definition is there cause for a minute I thought you were gonna make me watch!
  • mwg0735 littleb... 2012/05/17 15:06:45
  • rustyshackelford 2012/05/17 00:33:35
  • Katherine the Renaissance W... 2012/05/16 23:19:56 (edited)
    Katherine the Renaissance Woman
    +5
    I'm sorry, but the only homosexuals I know who wanted the right for gay marriage were very good people, of high moral value. No perverts here.
  • mwg0735 Katheri... 2012/05/17 02:04:01
  • Katheri... mwg0735 2012/05/17 02:18:02
    Katherine the Renaissance Woman
    +6
    Can you provide proof of this "perversion"?
  • melly~t... Katheri... 2012/05/17 02:41:29
  • Katheri... melly~t... 2012/05/17 04:46:12
    Katherine the Renaissance Woman
    +3
    no feeding trolls

    I can not feed them? D:
  • mwg0735 Katheri... 2012/05/17 15:07:24
  • Katheri... mwg0735 2012/05/17 15:08:06
    Katherine the Renaissance Woman
    +3
    Now you're just being idiotic. Adios.
  • mwg0735 Katheri... 2012/05/17 17:03:29
  • Philo-Publius 2012/05/16 23:10:53
    Philo-Publius
    +8
    No, I'm against leading gays 'away from what is considered good, normal, moral, or proper' (i.e. wholesome, monogamous relationships, and sex inside the confines of marriage).

    The pervert is one who would use the force of law and pretensions to 'morality' to remove the hope of a segment of the population who is desirous of it to have such wholesome relationships, and to stand by idly -- nay, cheering -- as the ostracization and dejection they suffered at the pervert's hands lead them into baser lifestyles, if not into self-harm.
  • mwg0735 Philo-P... 2012/05/17 02:04:47
  • rustex782 Philo-P... 2012/05/28 16:55:14
    rustex782
    +2
    thats a good point
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