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Tudie BN 2012/05/05 22:09:55
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  • SEA Jay 2012/05/05 22:30:52
    None of the above
    SEA Jay
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    Plutocracy (from Ancient Greek ploutos, meaning "wealth", and kratos, meaning "power, rule") is rule by the wealthy, or power provided by wealth. The combination of both plutocracy and oligarchy is called plutarchy

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  • Freedom4 2468 2012/05/07 22:59:17
    Freedom4
    +1
    What you do not get is that the rich generate opportunity for others. Attacking them only means less opportunity. A strong middle class is the ultimate goal of everyone, but it is unsustainable to do it by stealing from those that create opportunity for the middle class and use it to encourage people to not even try. You must be referring to socialism. When the government controls everything, only the politically connected get wealthy. Socialism destroys new businesses and opportunity for anyone not born rich. You are letting your jealousy of the rich get in your way of rational thinking and common sense
  • 2468 Freedom4 2012/05/06 17:05:40
  • jubil8 BN-0 PON 2012/05/06 01:27:09
    Republic
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +5
    That was the original idea anyway.

    God only knows what we are now.
  • 2468 jubil8 ... 2012/05/06 01:36:52
    2468
    +3
    We are somewhere between a Democratic Republic (representative democracy...people can vote), Oligopoly (a few large corps run most things), Plutocracy (the elite call the shots) and Constipation (where nothing moves through Congress).
  • Arizona... 2468 2012/05/06 01:40:59
  • jubil8 ... 2468 2012/05/06 01:55:12
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +3
    I'd lol that, but it's too depressingly accurate. :)
  • Arizona1950 2012/05/06 01:25:11
    Republic
    Arizona1950
    +7
    and to the Republic for which she stands ...

    To the Republic for which she stands
  • jubil8 ... Arizona... 2012/05/06 01:28:21
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +3
    Easy when you put it that way. :)
  • Arizona... jubil8 ... 2012/05/06 01:40:19
    Arizona1950
    +2
    Its a good way to remember. :-)
  • Kaleokualoha 2012/05/06 01:23:39
    None of the above
    Kaleokualoha
    +3
    The United States of America is both a democracy and a republic. They are not mutually exclusive.
  • Arizona... Kaleoku... 2012/05/06 01:28:08
    Arizona1950
    +3
    Rule by Law (Republic) vs. Rule by Majority (Democracy)

    We are a nation of laws ... We do have a Law of the Land and it is called the Constitution.

    http://www.c4cg.org/republic.htm
  • David Arizona... 2012/05/06 01:49:24
    David
    Don't democracies have laws too?
  • Arizona... David 2012/05/06 01:52:27
    Arizona1950
    +1
    Missed the point ... try reading the link it might help.
  • David Arizona... 2012/05/06 02:10:58
    David
    The point is quite simple you state that a Republic is "rule by law" , but democracies are also "rule by law".

    Canada and Australia are also nations of laws with constitutions!
  • Arizona... David 2012/05/06 02:13:34
    Arizona1950
    +1
    Democracries are more of a majority rule or mob rule. If you don't know why the United States is different than any other country in the world then there's nothing I can say that will convince you otherwise. I have learned to avoid people who like to argue for the sake of arguing ... if you're confused read the link.
  • les_gvt Arizona... 2012/05/06 02:41:16
    les_gvt
    +1
    I just found something I like immensely in a place I least expected-

    Article 12. In the U.S.S.R. work is a duty and a matter of honour for every able-bodied citizen, in accordance with the principle: "He who does not work, neither shall he eat."

    I guess they DID have their good points
  • David Arizona... 2012/05/06 02:44:58 (edited)
    David
    I think you have learned to avoid people with whom you disagree!

    You may know very little about the United States, but you know nothing about countries like Canada and Australia, if you believe that they are ruled by "mobs" without constitutions and laws!
  • Arizona... David 2012/05/06 04:43:45 (edited)
    Arizona1950
    +1
    Where do I disagree? You are looking to make an issue where there is none. There was a specific question and I answered. The question asked my opinion on whether we are a democracy or a republic and I gave my response. If you wish to know about countries such as Canada or Australia maybe you should write your own blog.

    "Republic and democracy are descriptions of two different things (one is a form of goverment, the other is the system of goverment). As an example you have the former Soviet Union, which was a republic, but not a democracy. You also have India, which is a democracy but not a republic. The US is both. N. Korea is neither."
  • David Arizona... 2012/05/07 02:44:51 (edited)
    David
    +1
    Not long ago I would have agreed with you that the US is both a Democracy and a Republic, but the closer I look, the more it looks like a Plutocracy!
  • Arizona... David 2012/05/07 02:52:40
    Arizona1950
    oligarchy is felt by many because of its current direction ... but a Republic is what we are which gives us the power to change it if we are brave enough to do so.
  • David Arizona... 2012/05/07 03:02:12
    David
    +1
    Let's hope so!
  • Arizona... David 2012/05/07 03:05:59
    Arizona1950
    +1
    Me too!
  • Tim David 2012/05/06 02:34:10
    Tim
    And, although we are constitutional monarchies, not republics, we are strong democracies.
  • les_gvt David 2012/05/06 02:38:54
    les_gvt
    +1
    read this constitution-
    Article 39. A law is considered adopted if passed by both Chambers of the Supreme Soviet of the U.S.S.R. by a simple majority vote in each.
    read the entire thing-
    http://www.politicsforum.org/... this is a democracy- then read N Korea or Cuba
  • Rodney David 2012/05/06 04:32:02
    Rodney
    +3
    As it is used in reference to our country, it is a democratic Republic (note small "d"). It means we vote our officials in but they are restrained by the Constitution and mandated to lead as representatives, not as elitists. Something they seemingly have forgotten.
  • David Rodney 2012/05/07 02:48:13
    David
    +1
    Sounds like a good answer, but I believe the use of wealth and the power that comes with it is corrupting the system!
  • Rodney David 2012/05/07 03:03:32 (edited)
    Rodney
    +1
    I agree! Nothing ticks me off more then to know how our elected officials are selling themselves and pandering to everyone to remain in power. Term Limits?
  • Kaleoku... Arizona... 2012/05/06 03:48:20
    Kaleokualoha
    [QUOTE]
    de·moc·ra·cy   /dɪˈmɒkrəsi/ Show Spelled[dih-mok-ruh-see] Show IPA
    noun, plural de·moc·ra·cies.
    1. government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
    2. a state having such a form of government: The United States and Canada are democracies.
    3. a state of society characterized by formal equality of rights and privileges.
    4. political or social equality; democratic spirit.
    5. the common people of a community as distinguished from any privileged class; the common people with respect to their political power.
    [END QUOTE http://dictionary.reference.c... ]

    [QUOTE]
    re·pub·lic   /rɪˈpʌblɪk/ Show Spelled[ri-puhb-lik] Show IPA
    noun
    1. a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.
    2. any body of persons viewed as a commonwealth.
    3. a state in which the head of government is not a monarch or other hereditary head of state.
    4. ( initial capital letter ) any of the five periods of republican government in France. Compare First Republic, Second Republic, Third Republic, Fourth Republic, Fifth Republic.
    5. ( initial capital l...










    [QUOTE]
    de·moc·ra·cy   /dɪˈmɒkrəsi/ Show Spelled[dih-mok-ruh-see] Show IPA
    noun, plural de·moc·ra·cies.
    1. government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
    2. a state having such a form of government: The United States and Canada are democracies.
    3. a state of society characterized by formal equality of rights and privileges.
    4. political or social equality; democratic spirit.
    5. the common people of a community as distinguished from any privileged class; the common people with respect to their political power.
    [END QUOTE http://dictionary.reference.c... ]

    [QUOTE]
    re·pub·lic   /rɪˈpʌblɪk/ Show Spelled[ri-puhb-lik] Show IPA
    noun
    1. a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.
    2. any body of persons viewed as a commonwealth.
    3. a state in which the head of government is not a monarch or other hereditary head of state.
    4. ( initial capital letter ) any of the five periods of republican government in France. Compare First Republic, Second Republic, Third Republic, Fourth Republic, Fifth Republic.
    5. ( initial capital letter, italics ) a philosophical dialogue (4th century b.c.) by Plato dealing with the composition and structure of the ideal state.
    [END QUOTE http://dictionary.reference.c... ]

    Because the United States of America is BOTH:

    ". . . a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system."

    AND ALSO:

    ". . . a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them,"

    the United States is both a republic and a democracy.
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  • Arizona... Kaleoku... 2012/05/06 04:48:53 (edited)
    Arizona1950
    +1
    The United States is a Republic of which we have a democratic process of voting our representatives into office.

    "Republic and democracy are descriptions of two different things (one is a form of goverment, the other is the system of goverment). As an example you have the former Soviet Union, which was a republic, but not a democracy. You also have India, which is a democracy but not a republic. The US is both. N. Korea is neither."
  • Tinka123 Kaleoku... 2012/05/06 01:46:04 (edited)
    Tinka123
    +2
    I disagree, the Constitution very explicitly denotes our system as a "Republican form of Government." That same document never mentions democracy and our founder weren't sold on democracy. The electoral college pretty much kills any potential for pure democracy.

    One of my all time favorites from Jefferson...
    "If there be any among us who wish to dissolve the Union or to change its republican form, let them stand undisturbed, as monuments of the safety with which error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it."
    --Thomas Jefferson (First Inaugural Address)

    He was a witty fella.
  • Kaleoku... Tinka123 2012/05/06 18:20:17
    Kaleokualoha
    Pure democracies are rare. The United States is a representative democracy.
  • Tinka123 Kaleoku... 2012/05/06 18:23:43
    Tinka123
    +1
    Not according to the Constitution. Just saying...
  • HoneyBadger 2012/05/06 01:17:49
    Republic
    HoneyBadger
  • David HoneyBa... 2012/05/06 01:55:29
    David
    "Idiocracy" is probably the best answer so far, but it would be best under "other" than Republic!
  • Q 2012/05/06 01:10:06
    Other
    Q
    +2
    If I'm not mistaken we have a form of democracy that embodies democratic principles but doesn't allow the majority to run roughshod over the rights of the minority.
  • Arizona... Q 2012/05/06 01:33:01
    Arizona1950
    +4
    "doesn't allow the majority to run roughshod over the rights of the minority." Which makes us a Republic.

    http://www.c4cg.org/republic.htm
  • Tinka123 2012/05/06 00:45:13
    Republic
    Tinka123
    +8
    -- U.S. Constitution, Article IV Sect. 4:
    "The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence."
  • reaper 2012/05/06 00:44:13
    Other
    reaper
    +2
    democratic republic would be most accurate.
  • Arizona... reaper 2012/05/06 01:33:33
  • reaper Arizona... 2012/05/06 02:27:55
    reaper
    yeah, i'm not going to trust a site making this claim on one of it's pages.

    All socialist, humanist, liberals, and most democrats hate God because they want to play God themselves.


    also for the quote claiming to be from Jefferson on the site.
    Resistance To Tyranny Is Obedience To GOD

    has also been claimed to of been said by Franklin and Tyndale by others.

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