My case in point: in 2012 the Koch brothers made 11 billion in profit yet still laid off over 25% of their workers in Green Bay, many middle aged. Now they need to find retraining, find a job, and still support their families. Most ended up losing their homes or at the very least downsizing. What CEO has every lost their home, needed to be retrained, or lost their life savings trying to make ends meet after a business went under or they got fired?
What I heard from Obama is that one man cannot make a successful business without good workers and good workers should be recognized for their contribution to the organization. Currently the climate is that only the CEO is of any importance and should take advantage of their workers any way they can.
I'll explain really slow... In Somalia there's no government and no taxes. Why can't you just go there and be super successful? You literally CAN'T start a corporation there. You need a government to do that. Do I need to draw you a picture?
yeah people are poor because there's a big government incentive to do so.
How come there was a Great Depression before there was SSI and Medicare? Hmmm? how'd we have all those poor people without all that big bad old government "incentivization?" Believe me they had poor people long before they had welfare. They were just dying in the streets and committing crimes instead of having the means and dignity to get back on their feet like the VAST MAJORITY of people on government assistance do within a year --so it's actually cheaper to help them, but conservatives will spend 1000 dollars to make sure no peasant gets a free dime.
And are you saying there's no fraud or abuse of private insurance? Hahahaha! Good one dude. All the fraud in medicare comes from PRIVATE companies overcharging or defrauding them. Boy Howdy it does! In fact when you talk about "government corruption" that's when a PRIVATE company or interest is ...
I'll explain really slow... In Somalia there's no government and no taxes. Why can't you just go there and be super successful? You literally CAN'T start a corporation there. You need a government to do that. Do I need to draw you a picture?
yeah people are poor because there's a big government incentive to do so.
How come there was a Great Depression before there was SSI and Medicare? Hmmm? how'd we have all those poor people without all that big bad old government "incentivization?" Believe me they had poor people long before they had welfare. They were just dying in the streets and committing crimes instead of having the means and dignity to get back on their feet like the VAST MAJORITY of people on government assistance do within a year --so it's actually cheaper to help them, but conservatives will spend 1000 dollars to make sure no peasant gets a free dime.
And are you saying there's no fraud or abuse of private insurance? Hahahaha! Good one dude. All the fraud in medicare comes from PRIVATE companies overcharging or defrauding them. Boy Howdy it does! In fact when you talk about "government corruption" that's when a PRIVATE company or interest is bribing a public servant for special favors. So really ALL "government corrupton" comes for the private sector... yet conservatives think we're better off privatizing everything. Morons/
Did you know that Medicare operates on an overhead of only 3 cents on the dollar? Part of Obamacare requires for-profit health-insurance companies to lower their overhead to 20 cents on the dollar.
Study what black leaders really do, not what the propaganda that panders to white prejudices, biases, and resentment say they do. Research (youtube.com is a source) speeches to black youth by Jesse Jackson, then show me a link to one that shows him telling black young pelople, ït isn't their fault, it's whitey."
Where would you "herd" poor folks? Into the street?
I prefer that they live in safe accommodations, just as I want to live in safe shelter.
And what study shows persuasively that feeding and clothing the needy treats them "like they are too stupid to overcome economic hardship without the help of the goverment" [the government is We the People, you and I].
The people of Somalia are fee of the "stigma" of not supporting themselves. How are they doing?
http://www.insurancefraud.org...
Medicare Fraud
Medicare and Medicaid made an estimated $23.7 billion in improper payments in 2007. These included $10.8 billion for Medicare and $12.9 billion for Medicaid. Medicare’s fee-for-service reduced its error rate from 4.4 percent to 3.9 percent. (U.S. Office of Management and Budget, 2008)
Every $1 the U.S. government invests in combating Medicare and Medicaid fraud saves $1.55. (U.S. Department of Health & Human Services, 2009)
Medicare paid dead physicians 478,500 claims totaling up to $92 million from 2000 to 2007. These claims included 16,548 to 18,240 deceased physicians. (U.S. Senate Permanent Committee on Investigations, 2008)
Nearly one of three claims (29 percent) Medicare paid for durable medical equipment was erroneous in FY 2006. (Inspector General report, Department of Health and Human Services, 2008)
Medicare and private health insurers pay up to $16 billion a year for needless imaging tests ordered by doctors. (American College of Radiology, 2004) [These records do not address all fraud issues.]
Other Medicare Stats
Medicare paid more than $1 billion in questionable claims for 18 categories of medical supplies that patients don’t appear to need. The study covered claims ...
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http://www.insurancefraud.org...
Medicare Fraud
Medicare and Medicaid made an estimated $23.7 billion in improper payments in 2007. These included $10.8 billion for Medicare and $12.9 billion for Medicaid. Medicare’s fee-for-service reduced its error rate from 4.4 percent to 3.9 percent. (U.S. Office of Management and Budget, 2008)
Every $1 the U.S. government invests in combating Medicare and Medicaid fraud saves $1.55. (U.S. Department of Health & Human Services, 2009)
Medicare paid dead physicians 478,500 claims totaling up to $92 million from 2000 to 2007. These claims included 16,548 to 18,240 deceased physicians. (U.S. Senate Permanent Committee on Investigations, 2008)
Nearly one of three claims (29 percent) Medicare paid for durable medical equipment was erroneous in FY 2006. (Inspector General report, Department of Health and Human Services, 2008)
Medicare and private health insurers pay up to $16 billion a year for needless imaging tests ordered by doctors. (American College of Radiology, 2004) [These records do not address all fraud issues.]
Other Medicare Stats
Medicare paid more than $1 billion in questionable claims for 18 categories of medical supplies that patients don’t appear to need. The study covered claims between January 2001 and December 2006. The claims included walkers for patients with purported sinus congestion, paraplegia or shoulder injuries. Hundreds of thousands of claims were made for diabetes-related glucose test strips for patients with purported breathing problems, bubonic plague, leprosy or sexual impotence. (U.S. Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, 2008)
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$34.3 Billion Amount lost to improper payments by Medicare fee-for-service (Part A & Part B) in 2010 2
33 Number of senators, both Democrats and Republicans, who have co-sponsored the FAST Act 3
10.5% Percent of all payments made improperly by Medicare fee-for-service (Part A & Part B) in 2010 4
16,548 Estimated number of dead physicians whose Medicare ID numbers were used to file claims from 2000-2007 5
38% Percent of Medicare’s share of all government revenue spent improperly 6
2,058 Number of new civil and criminal health care fraud investigations opened by the Department of Justice in FY2010 7
$22.5 Billion Amount lost to improper payments by Medicaid in 2010 8
22 Number of years in a row Medicare has appeared on the GAO’s list of “high risk for fraud” programs 9
$1.55 Amount saved for every $1 invested in combating fraud, according to HHS 10
9.4% Percent of all payments made improperly by Medicaid in 2010 11
478,500 Number of claims made using the Medicare ID numbers of dead physicians from 2000-2007 12
2
“Medicare Fee-for-Service - 2010,” PaymentAccuracy.gov. Accessed October 26, 2011; http://paymentaccuracy.gov/pr...
3
S. 1251: Medicare and Medicaid FAST Act, GovTrack.us. Accessed October 26, 2011; http://www.govtrack.us/congre...
4
Ibid.
5
“Report Links Dead Doctors to Payments by Medicare,” The New York Times. July 9, 2008; http://www.nytimes.com/2008/0...
6
Ibid.
7
“Health Care Fraud and Abuse Control Program Annual Report for Fiscal Year 2010,” Department of Health and Human Services & Department of Justice. January 2011; http://oig.hhs.gov/publicatio...
8
“Medicaid – 2010,” PaymentAccuracy.gov. Accessed October 26, 2011; http://paymentaccuracy.gov/pr...
9
“Entitlement Bandits,” Michael F. Cannon. National Review Online. July 4, 2011; http://www.nationalreview.com...
10
“Fiscal Year 2010 Budget in Brief,” Department of Health and Human Services. Accessed October 26, 2011; http://dhhs.gov/asfr/ob/docbu...
11
Ibid.
12
Ibid.
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Do the bloody math. I've been overly conservative in my estimations.
Further fraud hot off the presses -
http://www.reflector.com/opin...
To address fraud -
http://www.coburn.senate.gov/...
Having said that, I congratulate you for your work. Were it not for the rude greeting, I might mistake you for the people paid through the GOP to disseminate corporatist propaganda.
Insurance fraud plagues both sectors, private and public--almost equally:
"The National Health Care Anti-Fraud Association, a partnership between private insurers and the federal government, says that it 'estimates conservatively that 3 percent of all health care spending -- or $68 billion -- is lost to health care fraud.’ The association bases that figure on 2007 total health care spending of $2.27 trillion in the United States. It's an unscientific, very dubious way of making estimates. But even if you go with it, well over half that spending is private sector. Medicare in 2007 was a $436 billion program. Applying the association's 3 percent standard, that works out to an estimated $13 billion in Medicare fraud. For argument's sake, throw in Medicaid's $191 billion spending in 2007. You're up to $19 billion in fraud.” (http://seniorliving.about.co...
I frequently take to task folks who, in attempting ...
Having said that, I congratulate you for your work. Were it not for the rude greeting, I might mistake you for the people paid through the GOP to disseminate corporatist propaganda.
Insurance fraud plagues both sectors, private and public--almost equally:
"The National Health Care Anti-Fraud Association, a partnership between private insurers and the federal government, says that it 'estimates conservatively that 3 percent of all health care spending -- or $68 billion -- is lost to health care fraud.’ The association bases that figure on 2007 total health care spending of $2.27 trillion in the United States. It's an unscientific, very dubious way of making estimates. But even if you go with it, well over half that spending is private sector. Medicare in 2007 was a $436 billion program. Applying the association's 3 percent standard, that works out to an estimated $13 billion in Medicare fraud. For argument's sake, throw in Medicaid's $191 billion spending in 2007. You're up to $19 billion in fraud.” (http://seniorliving.about.co...
I frequently take to task folks who, in attempting to correct corporatist/GOP propaganda by providing verifiable data and facts, use disrespectful language and tone like this language and tone for which you have opted.
While insult and name-calling abounds in postings placed by pseudo-conservatives, I also find it in some postings by people otherwise appealing to reason.
I believe, with Emmanuel Kant, that we are all entitled to respect because God loves us all. There can be no love without respect.
Merely answering your "Since your are being neither cute nor clever,..." comment.
There was no way my comment could be considered 'cute', and you decided I was obviously intellectually lacking - you get what you give.
I'm just more honest and not hiding behind passive/aggressive nonsense.
Were you seriously replying, "Saul Alinsky [wrote] about Lucifer?" While patently false, I would have to retract my impression that you were attempting a contemptuous retort if you were in fact serious.
Why did you brush off Somalia? It offers exactly what you advocate: poor roads, an unreliable communications system, and an extremely weak government. Somalia should therefore be far more prosperous than countries with strong central governments like Japan, Germany, the UK, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, France, etc., etc.
Is it? If not, why not?
No polite way of saying it. Just a fact.
Cite the statistics. If they are accurate, they will show that poverty during the days of the Great Society was at about 11%, the lowest it has ever been in the history of the US.
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You can do math right? I did it.
Again, I commend you on the accuracy of your information. (I hope no one thinks I don't check out that which I do not know--which is considerable.)
Many are awake and giving a darn. Many are united in unmasking this smug, lying, petulant fraud.
I know that Obama's dad was hugely against - to the point of violence, British colonialism.
Working among people in a community, teaching them to organize, to find and use resources to better their lives is a real job. I did the same in community development while in Brazil, serving in the Peace Corps. Do you want to call me names now, or would you like to shift gears and engage in adult discussion?
Look it up.
I'm not performing any more research for you.
Your "research" is a repeat of the propaganda dumped on us through our commercial media (especially Fox "News", which--in a 2002 appeal to a "conservative judge"-- won the First-Amendment right to "lie and distort" in reporting the news).
Given your professed love of truth, you have no confidence in a network that fought for and won the right to lie and distort in reporting the news, do you?
Such disingenuousness offers no information and fails to encourage rational thought.
I'll go ahead and, as others whom you have ignored have done, point our the obvious: a business that makes widgets will go under if it has not way of getting those widgets to the market. Why does simple fact this not occur to you?
Not one statement grounded in fact = BULL
Obama in his OWN WORDS -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Obama admits attending socialist conferences and reading Marxist literature. He stated that he "chose his friends carefully... the Marxist professors... we were resisting resisting bourgeois society’s stifling constraints."
Frank Marshall Davis to whom Obama refers to as "Frank" and with whom the young Obama "had a close relationship, almost like a son" is publicly identified as a prominent member of the Communist Party USA and an acknowledged Stalinist agent.
Obama held receptions at the home of, and served on boards with, another mentor who has had an indelible influence on his world view: William Ayers along with his wife Bernardine Dohrn. The two were leaders of the terrorist group known as the Weathermen or the Weather Underground, notable for a campaign from 1969 through the middle 1970s of riots, bombings, murders, and a jailbreak. Under Ayers and Dohrn's leadership, the terrorist organization bombed the United States Capitol on March 1, 1971, The Pentagon on May 19, 1972, and the United States Department of State Building on January 29, 1975. Their founding document cal...
Not one statement grounded in fact = BULL
Obama in his OWN WORDS -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Obama admits attending socialist conferences and reading Marxist literature. He stated that he "chose his friends carefully... the Marxist professors... we were resisting resisting bourgeois society’s stifling constraints."
Frank Marshall Davis to whom Obama refers to as "Frank" and with whom the young Obama "had a close relationship, almost like a son" is publicly identified as a prominent member of the Communist Party USA and an acknowledged Stalinist agent.
Obama held receptions at the home of, and served on boards with, another mentor who has had an indelible influence on his world view: William Ayers along with his wife Bernardine Dohrn. The two were leaders of the terrorist group known as the Weathermen or the Weather Underground, notable for a campaign from 1969 through the middle 1970s of riots, bombings, murders, and a jailbreak. Under Ayers and Dohrn's leadership, the terrorist organization bombed the United States Capitol on March 1, 1971, The Pentagon on May 19, 1972, and the United States Department of State Building on January 29, 1975. Their founding document calls for "the destruction of US imperialism and achieve a classless world: world communism." When recently asked about his terrorist activities, Ayers replied he had "no regrets" and that "we didn't do enough".
At one Obama reception at the Ayers Dohrn home Alice Palmer, who was identified by the FBI as being on Soviet payroll in the Eighties and an enthusiastic attendee of the 27th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, announced that she was stepping down from office as Obama was her chosen successor.
Mike Klonsky was funded to the tune of $1,968,718.00 by an organization headed by Obama and Ayers. His father, Robert Klonsky, was an American communist who was convicted for advocating the forcible overthrow of the United States government. Mike founded a precursor of the Weatherman terrorist group, formed the American Communist Party (Marxist/Leninist), was feted in China by Maoists, and spoke in front of Hugo Chavez for the need to bring the Marxist revolution into the classroom.
Obama admits that one of his close friends was Rashid Khalidi, who was the President of Columbia University's Communist Party and a former spokesperson for the PLO. They had frequent dinners together and the Obamas even babysat Khalidi's children. Obama led organizations funded the Arab American Action League an organization calling for the demolition of Israel and chaired by Khalidi's wife. Khalidi held successful fundraisers for Obama's campaign.
Che Guevara who advocated the "extermination" of the United States, and was involved in a foiled plot to bomb crowded department stores and New York City's Grand Central Terminal, had his portraits hung on the precinct captain' wall of Obama headquarters in Houston. The campaign formally only stated that it was "inappropriate."
During the presidential election campaign, Hamas advisor Ahmed Yousef was quoted as saying, "We like Mr. Obama. We hope he will win the election." Hamas is dedicated to the destruction of Israel and is on the US State Department list of leftist terrorist organizations.
The Communist Party USA actively supported Obama during the primary election and their leader Sam Webb recently stated: "Just look at the new lay of the land: a friend of labor and its allies sits in the White House." He went on to enthusiastically discuss Obama's agenda to nationalize the American financial system, the Federal Reserve Bank, and private industries such as energy and various other sectors. "All these – and many other things – are within OUR reach now... an opportunity of a lifetime," Webb exclaimed.
Obama's father wrote a thesis entitled "Problems With Our Socialism" that advocates 100% taxation of the rich, communal ownership of land and the forced confiscation of privately controlled land.
Obama's mother was a communist sympathizer from her youth. Obama has spoken of her beliefs: "The values she taught me continue to be my touchstone when it comes to how I go about the world of politics."
Obama's parents met in a Russian language class, generally unusual in the USA of the Fifties, but a common activity for communists in that age.
Barack Obama's older brother, Abongo "Roy" Obama is a militant Marxist Muslim who has made a pact with a hard-line Islamic group in Kenya to establish Shari'a law. Barack calls his brother "the person who made me proudest of all."
Obama's grandparents moved 2,000 miles so Obama's mother could attend a school where communism was openly advocated and whose chairman testified to being a member of the Communist Party. Obama's grandparents also attended a church known as "The Little Red Church" due to its promotion of communism.
Obama received the endorsement of the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America for an Illinois state senate seat in 1996.
Obama delivered an eulogy for Saul Mendelson, a lifelong communist activist.
Obama's physican, close friend and supporter Dr. Quentin Young was a prominent member of the communist Bethune Club.
Obama's church, the Trinity United Church of Christ, is a leading proponent of Liberation Theology which is an religious overlay onto Marxism.
Obama admits that he regularly attended communist conferences at Cooper Union College.
Obama endorsed Bernie Sanders, who was the first self-described socialist to be elected to the U.S. Senate. The National Journal's 27th annual vote ratings placed only one Senator who had voted a more socialistic agenda than Sanders: Obama.
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His own words - During a rally in Roseburg, Oregon
"..."We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama said...." Just what is freedom? Why should we care what other countries think. We pay for that gas. We pay TAXES on that gas. Terribly marxist thing to say.
Communist Party USA Officially Endorses Barack Obama
http://visiontoamerica.com/28...
He joined the Party dear. There's your truth. Obama was a dues paying member of the NEW PARTY = You know the Democratic Socialists of America and ACORN (although they have suffered a name change since the scandal). Radical labor union SEIU also had considerable input, as did members of the Communist Party USA breakaway group, Committees of Correspondence.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-...
This stuff is on record.
ON RECORD.
You can't refute it. You can't explain it away.
He's a marxist. Clear and plain and simple. That's how he was raised. That's how he rolls now.
Obamacare is a marxist program. One of many he's implemented. Shall we start discussing those and his other programs?
I simply cannot believe you are excusing a pipe bomb. Are you crazy? Are you that eager to embrace him? You forgive him his drug use. His affiliations. Everything then have the galling audacity besmirch Palin?
Left wing nut job is such a benign name. You aren't that. I don't know how to classify you. I just can't believe you folks. Anyone that excuses a terrorist act because it was a friend of Obama.
And you can't see it as being horrible.. Or refuse to see it. My God. I'm so thankful there aren't more of you.